VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.3] [Eva Kiss]

[SearingFive]

We've been screwed over time and again. We are essentially strapped to a fuck machine pounding our unwilling asses while regurgitated fetish content or bullshit cameos get put in...

Yeah, can't argue with that.

 

[| Vee |]

Do you guys think that Ivy is testing Ian for herself? I know memes are floating around her and Ian's progression. But one can hope, right?

I know one thing, Bitcoin came back in bull run after 3 years of bearish cycle BUT WE STILL DIDN'T GET IANxIVY!
Another thing I know, SHE PUT Ian IN HER PRIORITY LIST! So at least that's some progress.

 

[InkAndSaliva]

I've personally been assuming that most of the contradictions in Ivy's character can be explained by her being in love with Lena since prior to the game starting, but my own bias is playing a heavy role in that interpretation, I admit.

 

[seaoflove]

One question remains unanswered...

Is Axel Chad enough to pull of a Lena / Cindy Threesome while Lena & Cindy each have their own boyfriends & hate each other.

 

[BlandChili]

One question remains unanswered...

Is Axel Chad enough to pull of a Lena / Cindy Threesome while Lena & Cindy each have their own boyfriends & hate each other.

If the choice is presented then it'll be up to the player controlling Lena. Axel's ability to game chicks is irrelevant.

I've personally been assuming that most of the contradictions in Ivy's character can be explained by her being in love with Lena since prior to the game starting, but my own bias is playing a heavy role in that interpretation, I admit.

I used to wonder if that was a route Eva was headed with them, but I feel like Ivy has been portrayed as too dismissive of Lena's views and interests, on those routes where you don't play into her materialism and sexual casualness. If Ivy was actually in love with Lena I think we'd see her waver here and there in those cases.

Maybe such a realisation could still take place, but I don't really see it currently.

You just blew my mind as I was just hung up on IanxEmma, LenaxIanxHolly, LenaxIanxEmma and/or LenaxHollyxEmma. WadexHolly is quite a possible option depending on whose in relationship with who and relationships path/s.

Since we will only play the beach house section controlling Ian, Lena/Holly/Emma won't happen, but any threesome involving Ian and either two of the girls could be on the table.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Another thing I know, SHE PUT Ian IN HER PRIORITY LIST! So at least that's some progress.

With this pace we'll have granpa Ian grandma Ivy sex scene.

 

[seaoflove]

Why is the Bad Jess path so abysmal? She and Ian had three encounters and all of them were roughly the same.

- Ian approaches her, gets minus points if he is even slightly obtrusive (even if some questions are fine), gets insulted and rejected if he makes a direct move on her or stays on her good side if he interacts as careful as possible.
- Told, but not shown that Jessica had a bad past and that Ian is not judging her over it.
- Jessica asks him why he is interested in her and Ian answers that she caught his eye because she is interesting. Its a circle argument with no elaboration whatsoever.

At least we got a sex scene and the more extreme sides of Chad Ian, even if it ends the path and is evident of the current writing (focusing more and more on porn).


Now, bad Jess isn't designed as a main love interest, she is but a fleshed out cameo. We shouldn't compare her with GGGB Jessica. Her ORS equivalent is Ivy. This leads to compare Ivy with GGGB Jessica and its abysmal as well.

Jessica fucks guys and its shown. She fucks Jack, Kevin, Tyrones gang, can fuck Ashley, Dave and is a threesome candidate for many couples.
Ivy tells that she fucks guys, we are neither shown it and its never elaborated on. That one time with Mike is completely glossed over and as of now there is no indication that she and Axel are in allegiance (that would be intriguing). I joke about her being a virgin just because of the lack of male scenes. Its told that she is this super emancipated free spirited super slut that all men fawn over (and Ian, Jeremy, Perry compliment her) but whenever the subject is brought up, she is dismissive of men because they are so simple minded and below her. Does she even have male suitors she fucks? Lena, Louise and Holly got more action than her, even though its implied that those three have more issues with men because of relationship issues, when Ivy allegedly always has a sex partner because she doesn't care about relationships.

Only path of substance is the lesbian one with Lena and/or Holly, but even this one seems casual and more because of porn content than relationship progression (if anything, it develops Holly, not such much Ivy and Lena).


Lena is a better Ashley, Holly a better Eva, but Ivy a worse Jessica.



Improvements would be giving Ivy way more content in the early game to show that she is living a extensively sex life:
- Occasionaly fucking Mike and when Lena goes for him, she and Ivy can chat about it. Lena can act surprised and jealous, or Ivy could be surprised that Mike goes for her and possibly give Lena more attention than her.
- Establishing that she and Axel have a purely physical relationship. This emphasizes Ivy's indication to not interlap personal feelings and relationship with her sex life and would make her dynamic with Lena more risky and shacky, which is good considering that Ivy is supposed to be that extreme friend who Lena either agrees with or distances herself from throughout the course of the game.
- Fucking Mark and/or Marcel throughout the game and commenting on if Lena/Holly mingle with them as well.
- Why wasn't she fucking Jack in chapter 11? She comments on it twice and there is no explanation why Jack wouldn't want to fuck her.
- Billy is set up as a potential love interest and since he is currently a mystery, he could compliment Ivy as a partner well, either be sleazy rich horndog who can shower Ivy with money, presents and job opportunities or a free spirited party king that matches Ivys enthusiasm. They could have been fucking since his introduction but no, his event is dragging on forever.
- Ian content is abysmal, there could've been a few scenes with them. Especially if he is a chad and/or dating Lena, Ivy could mingle with him either because of her amusement, testing him for Lena, sabotaging and manipulating them (especially if she knows they cheat around with Cindy, Axel etc.) or whatever.

As my suggestions show, Ivy can be the replacement/rival if Lena isn't showing the guys attention, just like how Jeremy is fucking Alison if Ian isn't interested or how Holly goes for Clark/Mark/Stan if Ian ignores her. But somehow, she is almost exclusevely a lesbian and her content with Ian, Jeremy and Billy is extremely limited by comparison and drags on for way too long.

You bring up some interesting points. Holly is supposed to be the "Good Girl". Yet, we have physically seen 2 penises in her pussy. MC & Mark.

Ivy is supposed to be the "Bad Girl". Yet, we have physically seen 0 penises in her pussy. The closest we are seen to her with a penis is if she sucks Jeremy off during the truth or dare game, and it is over quick.

I like how you made a list of characters and their GGGB counter part, but that list should be expanded.

Lena = Ashley
Holly = Eva
Ivy = Jessica

Ian = Eric
Axel = Jack
Jeremy = Tyrone
Emma = Iris
Seymour = Arthur
Stan = Bernard (Ashley's Dad, but a younger version.)

Some others lack a good GGGB counterpart & vice versa:

Dave was one of the main GGGB male characters, but I don't think he has a male counterpart in ORS.
Wilson had his own role to play as well. There is no major criminal counterpart in ORS.
Cindy has no equivalent in GGGB.
Alison has no equivalent in GGGB.
Louise has no counterpart in GGGB.
Perry / Wade are both to under developed to replace Dave.

You don't seem to like how the Jessica route is going in ORS, but I kinda like it. I think to ultimately end up with her, and set her life right. You have to ask yourself one question before responding to any interaction with her:

"What Would Dave Do?"

Dave was the love that Jessica missed out on having. You gotta be a good guy like Dave was to get with her. She wants a "Romantic Artist that treats her right."

I'm curious about seeing Ashley's return on the "Bad Jessica Routes".

Is it going to be:

"Mega Slut Bimbo Porn Star Ashley"?
or
"Brutal Drug Kingpin Ashley"?

I'm wondering if our use of drugs will alter that state. If Lena & Ian both avoid drugs will we eventually meet bimbo ash? If we take all the drugs we can... Tripping as Ian, smoking weed, taking extacy, and smoking with Lena...

Will Drug Kingpin ash make an appearance...

 

[Gicoo]

You bring up some interesting points. Holly is supposed to be the "Good Girl". Yet, we have physically seen 2 penises in her pussy. MC & Mark.

Ivy is supposed to be the "Bad Girl". Yet, we have physically seen 0 penises in her pussy. The closest we are seen to her with a penis is if she sucks Jeremy off during the truth or dare game, and it is over quick.

Its good that the game took its time with Holly, because she starts reserved and its unlikely that she becomes a slut within a few chapters. Eva in GGGB rushed too quickly being a reserved nerd, gettign fucked by Jack and decided to hang out with criminals to become a gangster queen.
Holly was reserved for 7 chapters, chapter 8-9 was her first time after years, chapter 10 had her already going down on Mark, which continues with them having sex in chapter 11.

With Ivy its an issue since she starts as that allegedly crazy party girl and stays that way until now. For her, more content is mandantory to let her actions be consistent with her characterisation.


My problem with Jessica is that three scenes with her and Ian are roughly the same and don't have much to go forward. Jessica is dismissive, Ian needs to be careful with her, she is mildly curious and he says she caught his eye without elaborating. It doesn't advance their relationship in any way. The only part putting in effort is the porn/chad content, not the actual romance and building a relationship with her.


I don't care about too many GGGB cameos, Dave would be cool because you can integrate him as an opponent in the tournament, the latter lacks enemies and always using generic fighters is boring. With Ashley, its already an issue that her fate is left unclear, she could already be Jessicas girlfriend. I don't know what Ashley could bring into the table, expanding the cast is also risky and takes more work.

 

[seaoflove]

Its good that the game took its time with Holly, because she starts reserved and its unlikely that she becomes a slut within a few chapters. Eva in GGGB rushed too quickly being a reserved nerd, gettign fucked by Jack and decided to hang out with criminals to become a gangster queen.
Holly was reserved for 7 chapters, chapter 8-9 was her first time after years, chapter 10 had her already going down on Mark, which continues with them having sex in chapter 11.

With Ivy its an issue since she starts as that allegedly crazy party girl and stays that way until now. For her, more content is mandantory to let her actions be consistent with her characterisation.


My problem with Jessica is that three scenes with her and Ian are roughly the same and don't have much to go forward. Jessica is dismissive, Ian needs to be careful with her, she is mildly curious and he says she caught his eye without elaborating. It doesn't advance their relationship in any way. The only part putting in effort is the porn/chad content, not the actual romance and building a relationship with her.


I don't care about too many GGGB cameos, Dave would be cool because you can integrate him as an opponent in the tournament, the latter lacks enemies and always using generic fighters is boring. With Ashley, its already an issue that her fate is left unclear, she could already be Jessicas girlfriend. I don't know what Ashley could bring into the table, expanding the cast is also risky and takes more work.

You are absolutely right. There is almost no Ivy heterosexual content. The only stuff she does with guys is:

1) Blowjob for Jeremy with 2 other girls in the room as part of a dare after she did some lesbian stuff with Lena.
2) A little bit of wrestling with clothes on with Ian, but again that's just during a training session.

Inversely, there is a ton of both lesbian and solo content for her.

There could be multiple explanations for this.

Maybe she is actually a lesbian or mostly lesbian, and not that bi / into guys. She doesn't hook up with as many guys as it may seem that she does. That is just her reputation.

Another explanation could be that her heterosexual scenes had to be cut for time, or delayed for time.

I think it would have made sense to have a solo picture or 2 of her hooking up with someone. Like the holly / mark situation or the Jeremy / Emma situation.

If Jeremy does hook up with her he is always taking pictures with other girls. So those will get shared if not that then leaked. I don't see Jeremy not bragging about that one. So, that's probably coming up.

Ultimately all we can do is wait. The content will get there eventually. It does seem a bit absurdly absent / overdue at this point.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Character shows more lesbian tendencies and is pushed as one of the gay options for Lena="MAYBE HER CONTENT WAS CUT,GUYS!"
Some of you just refuse to do 2+2 and see the real role of trashIVY.

 

[yuvce]

One question remains unanswered...

Is Axel Chad enough to pull of a Lena / Cindy Threesome while Lena & Cindy each have their own boyfriends & hate each other.

The game is desgined to have only one chad, and that's Ian if you play him as one. Crying and bitching over the ex you cheated on while simultaneously trying to get her back, isn't chad behaviour, it's loser behaviour.

 

[Leongen43]

With this pace we'll have granpa Ian grandma Ivy sex scene.

So according to what you say, they will be so old that when they have sex they can die from the effort like trout, would it be like suicidal sex?

 

[MrBubu]

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[fatpussy123]

Weird how Cindy gets a higher relationship variable if Ian confesses his feeling late.

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I wonder if this is just to differentiate between the the two routes in the code or if getting romantic later is really a better option.

 

[Blurpee69]

Well in honor of SerHawkes and his Ivy simping, I've decided to make an Ian / Ivy playthrough in which Ian only does the bare minimum to try and get with Ivy and no one else. Any advice champ?

 

[SerHawkes]

Well in honor of SerHawkes and his Ivy simping, I've decided to make an Ian / Ivy playthrough in which Ian only does the bare minimum to try and get with Ivy and no one else. Any advice champ?

Simple. Invest in Charisma, Athletics, and a smidge of lust. Go to the gym.

 

[Leongen43]

Simple. Invest in Charisma, Athletics, and a smidge of lust. Go to the gym.

Oh really? Poor Ian , if he has to wait and not have sex with anyone until he has his chance with Ivy, his testicles are going to look like blue stars from so much abstinence, could he be radioactive? , When they finally have sex and Ian can't resist anymore and ejaculates, will Ivy be thrown against the ceiling like the protagonist of Scary Movie due to the force of Ian's ejaculation?

 

[Blurpee69]

Simple. Invest in Charisma, Athletics, and a smidge of lust. Go to the gym.

I believe you have to have sex with Lena at least once in order to impress Ivy by telling Axel you fucked Lena. Otherwise Ivy won't want to wrestle him in chapter 11. Or was that changed?

 

[SerHawkes]

I believe you have to have sex with Lena at least once in order to impress Ivy by telling Axel you fucked Lena. Otherwise Ivy won't want to wrestle him in chapter 11. Or was that changed?

That has changed. All you need is 5 points instead of 6. So you can get 5 points simply with charisma and such without having to sleep with Lena.

Oh really? Poor Ian , if he has to wait and not have sex with anyone until he has his chance with Ivy, his testicles are going to look like blue stars from so much abstinence, could he be radioactive? , When they finally have sex and Ian can't resist anymore and ejaculates, will Ivy be thrown against the ceiling like the protagonist of Scary Movie due to the force of Ian's ejaculation?

Very likely. And it will all be EK's fault for it to happen.

 

[FGM01]

In chapter 8, when Ivy invites Lena to teach Holly some things in bed, I don't have enough lust points to join in. I used the console to increase her lust, even tried all the way up to 10, and it's worked in other cases but it's still greyed out here. Is there some other variable I need to adjust for this scene? What condition am I not meeting?

I believe you have to have sex with Lena at least once in order to impress Ivy by telling Axel you fucked Lena. Otherwise Ivy won't want to wrestle him in chapter 11. Or was that changed?

Also how the heck do you get to wrestle Ivy? I got plenty of charisma and Lena sex and flirted with Ivy every chance Ian could, entered the mma tournament, there was no Ivy.