Takkatakka

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That's nothing but speculation of some people around here at this point.
Come on, it is so obvious. She makes an agreement with Alex to push Lena to make a photo session with him and he promises her to push her for the contract with Wildcats. Then she conveniently gets "stuck in traffic", so Lena is alone and Alex can take advantage of that.

I guess it depends on your choices, but in my game it was very obvious.
 

Reddig1979

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Only if its slut Lena who lusted after her stepdad and fucked even her professors. Smart Lena only had like two boyfriends.
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You shes lying. She just covering up a very slutty past. Which I'm a quite happy with if true. All the guys are going to watching all the lady's become rug doctors
 

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The cast is pretty selfish and self-centered, but cynically enough, this makes them more realistic.
That's one of the best things of this game, NPC's have their own agendas and their behaviour doesn't always circle around the PC's plot needs. I would have preferred Wade to be more like Dave in GGGB but I feel he's more pathetic as a compromise to make Cindy's cheating more justifiable and make her less unlikeable. I would have liked Cindy's path to be more about guilt and selfishness, her and Ian just wanting each other and acting on it even if Wade is a cool guy with some normal job and a perfectly nice friend that doesn't "deserve" it at all.

Rest of Ian's POV characters are good as they are, Perry fulfills his role to irritate both the player and Ian. On Lena's POV maybe remove Robert completely or just make him a shallow fuckboy without Robert's creepiness and pathetism.

That's nothing but speculation of some people around here at this point.
Pretty heavily hinted though. She says herself she made a deal with Axel and Axel didn't keep his part of the deal. It was either that, sex, or probably both.
 

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Come on, it is so obvious. She makes an agreement with Alex to push Lena to make a photo session with him and he promises her to push her for the contract with Wildcats. Then she conveniently gets "stuck in traffic", so Lena is alone and Alex can take advantage of that.
The only reason Axel gets his hands on Lena is Lena chooses to have this session with him on her own instead of waiting for Ivy. As far as devious masterplans go, that's like 2/10.

Pretty heavily hinted though. She says herself she made a deal with Axel and Axel didn't keep his part of the deal. It was either that, sex, or probably both.
Except there's nothing in the game that'd actually point to that "deal" having anything to do with Lena. It could be a hundred other things, even as simple as Ivy fucking Axel, much to SerHawkes's dismay.
 

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The only reason Axel gets his hands on Lena is Lena chooses to have this session with him on her own instead of waiting for Ivy. As far as devious masterplans go, that's like 2/10.


Except there's nothing in the game that'd actually point to that "deal" having anything to do with Lena. It could be a hundred other things, even as simple as Ivy fucking Axel, much to SerHawkes's dismay.
Ivy fucking Axel is definitely possible, even probable (taking into account the removed Ian and Axel interaction in the bar). But she also encourages Lena several times to not avoid Axel and talk to him which is dubious advice to a female friend whose ex has gone to her workplace and punched one of her coworkers. But who knows, we'll see in (hopefully near) future updates.
 

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Except there's nothing in the game that'd actually point to that "deal" having anything to do with Lena. It could be a hundred other things, even as simple as Ivy fucking Axel, much to SerHawkes's dismay.
Since we only see the game from Ian's and Lena's pov either of them would then have to know about the deal if it would've been explicitly stated already. :KEK:

The only way this deal not being a thing would Eva deliberately using it as red herring on us.:WeSmart:
 

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Since we only see the game from Ian's and Lena's pov either of them would then have to know about the deal if it would've been explicitly stated already. :KEK:
I mean, both Lena and Ian talk with Ivy (and Lena additionally with Axel) enough to give them lot of opportunities to slip and reveal such thing. It seems hardly like a development to keep until the very last episode because what it's ever going to result in, Lena getting upset with Ivy? Big fucking deal.
 
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Takkatakka

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I mean, both Lena and Ian talk with Ivy (and Lena additionally with Axel) enough to give them lot of opportunities to slip and reveal such thing. It seems hardly like a development to keep until the very last episode because what it's ever going to result in, Lena getting upset with Ivy? Big fucking deal.
I mean, that is up to the writer. But saying that it is only a wild theory because it hasn't been revealed yet is like claiming after reading half of the story that the obvious murder in a crime novel must be an accident since the killer hasn't been revealed yet. :KEK:
 
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ffive

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Ivy is the real villain of ORS,terrible evil person.
People are just bitter because their Ian doesn't get to fuck her. :sneaky:

I mean, that is up to the writer. But saying that it is only a wild theory because it hasn't been revealed yet is like claiming after reading half of the story that the obvious murder in a crime novel must be an accident since the killer hasn't been revealed yet. :KEK:
This is not wrong, but it'd be a much fairer point if this was an actual crime novel or some other sort of a thriller and not a porn game about group of people just fucking in different combinations. In other words, any devious plots like that are far from mandatory.
 

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This is not wrong, but it'd be a much fairer point if this was an actual crime novel or some other sort of a thriller and not a porn game about group of people just fucking in different combinations. :v
It is pretty much a soap opera you can play. So conflicts between the characters and more or less evil plans of some of them are pretty much the main parts of the story here.

Edit: For Lena Ivy is still one of her best and especially oldest friends. Finding out that she betrayed her trust to further her own goals (which then failed - at least in my version) would be a pretty big crisis for Lena.
 

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I thought the deal Ivy made with Axel revolved around her getting the Wild Cats job. Anything beyond that is speculation. What her end of the bargain was is unclear; though to be fair, his end of the bargain is also unclear just easier to intuit.

One of the things I really don't like about chapter 11, is it takes away a lot of some of the more interesting speculations we as a player base had about the characters. Up until she mentions Axel didn't uphold their accord, we were all pretty much in agreement that while Ivy did it in her own unique, albeit at times misguided, way she does have Lena and Holly's best interests at heart. See also, her Perry interaction.

Same applies to Marcel; again I think a lot of people here acknowledged he would still be used for BBC, but his interactions with Holly made it seem like it wouldn't be the normal troupe.

Ivy, to me, is a more interesting character as a slutty, but kind hearted friend. Not as a scheming manipulative slut. That is a tired troupe. Marcel was more interesting as a friendly giant, and not as a background BBC fetish.
 

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I thought the deal Ivy made with Axel revolved around her getting the Wild Cats job.
The deal seemed to have been a one time thing. Could very well be, that Alex screwed Ivy over, very well knowing they weren't looking for her type.
 

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It is pretty much a soap opera you can play. So conflicts between the characters and more or less evil plans of some of them are pretty much the main parts of the story here.
I don't know -- it's not like the game exactly had any of these up to this point. The closest it gets to it is Ian fucking his friend's girlfriend and even that is just him mostly being horny.

I mean, Andrea9999 people had expected evil plans from Seymour too and he turned out to be just a pathetic simp. :whistle:
 

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I thought the deal Ivy made with Axel revolved around her getting the Wild Cats job. Anything beyond that is speculation. What her end of the bargain was is unclear; though to be fair, his end of the bargain is also unclear just easier to intuit.

One of the things I really don't like about chapter 11, is it takes away a lot of some of the more interesting speculations we as a player base had about the characters. Up until she mentions Axel didn't uphold their accord, we were all pretty much in agreement that while Ivy did it in her own unique, albeit at times misguided, way she does have Lena and Holly's best interests at heart. See also, her Perry interaction.

Same applies to Marcel; again I think a lot of people here acknowledged he would still be used for BBC, but his interactions with Holly made it seem like it wouldn't be the normal troupe.

Ivy, to me, is a more interesting character as a slutty, but kind hearted friend. Not as a scheming manipulative slut. That is a tired troupe. Marcel was more interesting as a friendly giant, and not as a background BBC fetish.
Nice bait I know who ivy really is..

Not falling for that trap
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