Before Covid and Lockdown, absolutely. Then I got Covid and was locked down, and since then here I am on that forum downloading porn games....My guy is playing the Ian slut route irl
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Realistically speaking how much longer until next update? 3 weeks? 3 months? longer?
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It was from if I remember correctly, her thinking about her guilt of it and him being his friend or whatever excuse it was that she decided to to get in a formal relationship ( inner dialogue wise ).
However this part you said " Jeremy, on the other hand, is involved in both friend groups, and Eva would have to juggle a lot of storylines and character interactions going forward "
I could see that being the case however ( you mentioned down later about Lena being hypocritical which is true ) Holly technically is also intertwined in both groups to some extent and hangs out and interacts more with Ian on a possible daily base vs Jeremy as Holly does hang out a lot with both Lena and Ian. However in game wise, if Ian went on a trip with Holly and smashed her and they talk about it she get's angry and refuses to actually commit and berate him... but if they are actually in a relationship and Ian does nothing to Holly and Lena is however doing things on the side with Holly, everything is fine and dandy, my point with that is, that it can be skirted the same way it is skirted with dialogues when for example Ian asks Holly how it is going with her and Lena's friendship and if they have good times hanging out. Holly dodges it like a champ.
So I think that given that Jeremy and Ian in comparison the interactions are a lot lower and so when they do hangout all they would have to do is pretty much barely or not interact with one another during times when they are all around and it should be fine.
But yeah still not happy at the fact as Ian you smashing Holly is no go for relationship but Lena can get all up in there and be in a relationship just fine.... that is bs.
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I think Eva just had something different in mind for Lena, Jeremy and Ian which makes the relationship between her and Ian get in the way. Maybe even saying "it's getting in the way" isn't a correct thing to say; more like it's just not the direction Eva wants to take.
It would make sense if Lena is hypocritical on her being angry on Ian for his infidelity and then her cheating as a character flaw. But it doesn't make sense for her not to cheat with Holly during the photoshoot even if past actions suggests she would definitely do it like if she cheated before. If people's excuse on Lena's cheating is her being spontaneous and being swept by her emotions then I don't get how that doesn't happen too in the case of Holly. It's not a character flaw, it's a writing inconsistency.
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Yeah, at the moment it's a perfectly sound logic. The inconsistency with that stance begins when Ivy gets Holly into her claws and successfully seduces her into a casual "educational" sex and can even invite Lena to join. So, if Lena was really only looking out for Holly, you'd think witnessing that she successfully got over her Ian crush and doesn't mind at all the casual sex (to the point of being used by a wannabe player), she would admit that she was too overprotective of Holly and was wrong to lash out on Ian like that. After all, Holly who has a lot of fun with Ivy and Mark wouldn't really care if Lena gets back together with Ian or not, so why keep this awkward distance just to punish Ian for something that wasn't even his fault (if he broke the kiss) and deny herself the sex with him?
So do i need to play on cheat mod to get all scenes or i can play on easy mode and i will just need to farm levels ( i don't want to get block cuz i don;t have idk charisma level 5 )
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Easy Mode lets you start the game with Level 3 stats. So you'll have a big advantage at the start of the game, but you'll still need to manage stats as you move forward and build relationship with characters. Cheat Mode is basically the same thing, only it maxes out all of your Stats to Level 10, thus saving you from the need to farm altogether (except for money which can run out and will). However, you'll still need to pursue characters and build relationships with them if you want to unlock their scenes. Making wrong choices will lock you out of the scenes, same as having too low relationship points.
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Just play with Cheat Mode if you don't wanna juggling stats and prefer to focus on the story.
I don't think it is all that weird -- it's common for people to treat people with different degree of respect, and to care about some more than others, depending on personal preferences. Lena is on record as a big fan of Holly even before they meet and get to know each other. In contrast she doesn't hold that high opinion of Louise (not surprising when you can see every day the way Louise can act) and even less about Mike's girlfriend she doesn't know anything about (other than said gf has allegedly smaller bust) So, caring about Holly's feelings more than she cares about Louise's or Mike's girlfriend's, it's easy enough to explain.
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There's a tendency among fans of the game to be very generous in reasoning away disjointed writing. The plot turns of a selfish, inconsistent or irrational Lena are totally fine. But they have to be justified smoothly enough in the text to not set off other readers' bullshit meters. I think the back-and-forth disagreements here are merely evidence the text wasn't handled smoothly enough in those situations, as these were also, of course, lock-outs and plot-turns of convenience based on development time limitations along with certain later plot-points and pairings Eva wanted to push.
Writing smoothly for such a magnitude of multi-paths, especially within such limitations, is assuredly tough though.
Writing smoothly for such a magnitude of multi-paths, especially within such limitations, is assuredly tough though.
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It's a Patreon funded porn game not Finnegans Wake, I'm not looking for perfect writing.
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I think the main issue with the relationship talk when Lena’s slept with Jeremy, as well as Lena’s reaction to Ian+Holly, is that one of the protagonist sees a previous event in a different light than the player. Which is an issue when you’re having two protagonists and they’re interacting, because you can’t use other characters’ reasoning to apply limitations to our choices.
I agree that the writing in those scenes is a bit disjointed, but if Lena was an NPC, I think most would have accepted her reasoning without thinking that much about it. (Maybe that point is more valid with her reaction to Ian+Holly, as her reaction during the relationship talk depends on choices we’ve made ourselves.)
Having said that, Eva made the choice to have two protagonists with all the challenges it involves, and when you’re in the middle of the game, it’s the gaming experience and not the intricate writing challenges you care about. I’m not that bothered about those scenes myself, as I think they’re among a relatively small amount of flaws up until this point, but I can surely understand why it bugs some players.
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And now, to announce my next game, Finnegan's Wank
Agnes, a rich old socialite that makes minimal appearances in the Seymour route. Notably when Lena and Axel posed for Seymour.
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Ah, that makes sense. I avoid the old bastard so that's why I've never met her. Would have loved to get me some Agnes though.
Thanks for the info buddy.