JohnnySolo

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I think this was the case with a few different storylines in the latest chapter. Alison's "corruption" path, as you mentioned as well; Cindy and the choice to tell her you want to be with her (and also the very blunt "you should continue cheating on him" choice); Holly suddenly being at the point where she can make out with Ivy and let her smack her butt in public; and the way Lena so easily adapted to the idea of her relationship with Seymour taking a turn that we as the players saw coming, but which she had no reason to suspect.
To be honest in my first playthrough I was also a bit surprised (more shocked) about the turn in the Lena / Seymour relationship. I’m also not 100% sure if in that version of the game I had the possibility to rejected his offer in the restaurant scene (but maybe I’m remembering it wrongly), for sure I couldn’t reject the vibrator.

To be fair, my first playthrough was a bit fast and I didn’t put so much attention into every detail of the story and think back to the first meeting of Lena and Seymour in the art gallery it’s pretty obvious that Seymour has some dark intentions, so I rejected his offer in my other playthrough.

On the other side the first dinner in the restaurant and the two photo shooting scenes are more or less professional (if you do the second one without Axel). It’s clear that Seymour is a powerful man, how is always in control of the situation and always has the overhand. So, you can see I’m still a bit shocked about the events in chapter 9 :). Maybe I have to replay the scenes and have bit a better look into the details, if I have missed something that make Seymour's reaction so obvious.
 

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To be honest in my first playthrough I was also a bit surprised (more shocked) about the turn in the Lena / Seymour relationship. I’m also not 100% sure if in that version of the game I had the possibility to rejected his offer in the restaurant scene (but maybe I’m remembering it wrongly), for sure I couldn’t reject the vibrator.

To be fair, my first playthrough was a bit fast and I didn’t put so much attention into every detail of the story and think back to the first meeting of Lena and Seymour in the art gallery it’s pretty obvious that Seymour has some dark intentions, so I rejected his offer in my other playthrough.

On the other side the first dinner in the restaurant and the two photo shooting scenes are more or less professional (if you do the second one without Axel). It’s clear that Seymour is a powerful man, how is always in control of the situation and always has the overhand. So, you can see I’m still a bit shocked about the events in chapter 9 :). Maybe I have to replay the scenes and have bit a better look into the details, if I have missed something that make Seymour's reaction so obvious.
Just the way he said to Lena "this makes you even better" with that evil smile in the first dinner was enough to trigger my "creep old man" radar. Since then i made Lena work with him but always in a safe distance so she could properly reject his blackmail in chapter 9. Now is time to Lena join Emma and these two take down that pig and celebrate it with a hot sex.
 
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Just the way he said to Lena "this makes you even better" with that evil smile in the first dinner was enough to trigger my "creep old man" radar. Since then i made Lena work with him but always in a safe distance so she could properly reject his blackmail in chapter 9. Now is time to Lena join Emma and these two take down that pig and celebrate it with a hot sex.
This asshole sabotaging Lena. I agreed with his offer only cause i hope Lena could betray him, took everything from him and ride of into the sunset with Ian.
 
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CoalPhelps

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To be honest in my first playthrough I was also a bit surprised (more shocked) about the turn in the Lena / Seymour relationship. I’m also not 100% sure if in that version of the game I had the possibility to rejected his offer in the restaurant scene (but maybe I’m remembering it wrongly), for sure I couldn’t reject the vibrator.

To be fair, my first playthrough was a bit fast and I didn’t put so much attention into every detail of the story and think back to the first meeting of Lena and Seymour in the art gallery it’s pretty obvious that Seymour has some dark intentions, so I rejected his offer in my other playthrough.

On the other side the first dinner in the restaurant and the two photo shooting scenes are more or less professional (if you do the second one without Axel). It’s clear that Seymour is a powerful man, how is always in control of the situation and always has the overhand. So, you can see I’m still a bit shocked about the events in chapter 9 :). Maybe I have to replay the scenes and have bit a better look into the details, if I have missed something that make Seymour's reaction so obvious.
I would say that the prerequisites are not directly obvious, but they are.

The first is a meeting in the gallery. If you choose the Lust answer option, then Seymour will say in fancy words that he agrees with those who take pictures of naked girls just to drool over them. Of course, this is not too obvious yet, but it can already be added to the piggy bank.

The second is a meeting in a restaurant. Now he says "That just makes you so much better", but if I'm not delusional and my memory does not deceive me, then in earlier versions he said "only better". It does not differ in meaning, but stylistically adds dark shades to this statement, coupled with a classic villainous smile.

The third is that during the photo shoot Seymour out of the blue starts calling Lena "Doll". This treatment gives the impression that he already considers Lena his toy and property. I think that many girls would think after that about the intentions of the photographer.

The fourth is that he quickly agrees with Agnes and asks Lena for the most depraved shots with Axel. All in all, it doesn't stray too far from his provocative style, but given how far they can go, it turns into soft pornography.

The fifth is the smirk during the phone call for the appointment in Chapter 9. Already portends something unpleasant and dark even before they meet.

Well, I would also include here the fact that he appeared in a cafe. In itself, this is harmless, but he clearly knew about the state of affairs in the house, plus the manifestation of too close interest in Lena.

These are all suspicious moments that I could remember.
 

JohnnySolo

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I would say that the prerequisites are not directly obvious, but they are.

The first is a meeting in the gallery. If you choose the Lust answer option, then Seymour will say in fancy words that he agrees with those who take pictures of naked girls just to drool over them. Of course, this is not too obvious yet, but it can already be added to the piggy bank.

The second is a meeting in a restaurant. Now he says "That just makes you so much better", but if I'm not delusional and my memory does not deceive me, then in earlier versions he said "only better". It does not differ in meaning, but stylistically adds dark shades to this statement, coupled with a classic villainous smile.

The third is that during the photo shoot Seymour out of the blue starts calling Lena "Doll". This treatment gives the impression that he already considers Lena his toy and property. I think that many girls would think after that about the intentions of the photographer.

The fourth is that he quickly agrees with Agnes and asks Lena for the most depraved shots with Axel. All in all, it doesn't stray too far from his provocative style, but given how far they can go, it turns into soft pornography.

The fifth is the smirk during the phone call for the appointment in Chapter 9. Already portends something unpleasant and dark even before they meet.

Well, I would also include here the fact that he appeared in a cafe. In itself, this is harmless, but he clearly knew about the state of affairs in the house, plus the manifestation of too close interest in Lena.

These are all suspicious moments that I could remember.
Thank you, all points pretty obvious.

I think my problem is, that I still hope that in the Seymour / Lena story there is something more, not just the bad rich guy how can’t accept that someone is not obeying him and now he wants to “destroy” him.

And don’t get me wrong, I can’t wait until Lena and/or Ian are taking down this pig.
 

CoalPhelps

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Thank you, all points pretty obvious.

I think my problem is, that I still hope that in the Seymour / Lena story there is something more, not just the bad rich guy how can’t accept that someone is not obeying him and now he wants to “destroy” him.

And don’t get me wrong, I can’t wait until Lena and/or Ian are taking down this pig.
I agree, I had very high hopes for Seymour from the very beginning, and I have to admit, the current dynamic in Chapter 9 is a little disappointing and makes him a flatter character than he could be. I hope revamp will make it more interesting. Or in the following chapters, unexpected sides/motives will be revealed.
 

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I agree, I had very high hopes for Seymour from the very beginning, and I have to admit, the current dynamic in Chapter 9 is a little disappointing and makes him a flatter character than he could be. I hope revamp will make it more interesting. Or in the following chapters, unexpected sides/motives will be revealed.
Since his first appearance he screamed of Arthur with a coat of paint to me, with the money and posing as a intelectual. By the time the photo sessions started i became pretty sure he was going down that "daddy/blackmail" path.:devilish:

I expect his route will be equaly quite big just as Arthur's was in GGGB.
 

ename144

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Since his first appearance he screamed of Arthur with a coat of paint to me, with the money and posing as a intelectual. By the time the photo sessions started i became pretty sure he was going down that "daddy/blackmail" path.:devilish:

I expect his route will be equaly quite big just as Arthur's was in GGGB.
At the moment I'd say he's substantially less interesting than Arthur because of the emphasis on compelling Lena rather than corrupting her. Arthur might try to drug Ashley at one point, but for the most part he was simply an opportunity to do increasingly depraved things. Seymore has shades of that, but he takes great pains to keep everything he's doing reasonable at the surface level. It comes across less as less depravity and more as trapping an unsuspecting innocent.

On top of that, the instant Lena declines to play along, Seymore drops the hammer and tries to force her hand in the most blatant manner possible. It's all about control, not temptation. Whereas Arthur will mostly fade into the background if Ash isn't interested; it nicely illustrates that Ashley (and the player) is complicit in the corruption. Plus, Arthur had a certain twisted charisma, a sort of refuge in audacity. Seymore is such a smug snake I'd much rather punch him than let him instigate something, no matter how sexy.

That's how I see it, anyway. YMMV. I'm not normally a fan of corruption, but I thought Arthur was an unusually well done example thanks to the simple combination of taking no for an answer but pulling no punches if you keep saying yes. It could change in the future obviously, but so far Seymore is the typical series of excuses to ameliorate the heroine doing 'bad' things.
 
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