SerHawkes

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Ian can flirt with Ivy if he's chad enough. She even kisses him on the cheek at the bar if he tells Axel to his face that he's banging his ex-girlfriend.
Not anymore. It got "rewritten" out. Much like the fact that all of Ivy's content continues to get pushed back and back with any Ian related content. Which is honest to god bullshit. We're 9 Chapters in and all Ivy has to her claim to fucking fame is a half a blowjob/mention blowjob with the resident fuckwit dumbass that apparently deserves to rewarded and not punished at all for his behavior, a hot makeout with Lena, and a half? a threesome with Lena and Holly.

And yet, Eva's gonna have the next update be ALL ABOUT REWORKING STAN. Stan, a character that is pointless, has no plot or interest or adds anything to the story other than a fill in for a voyeur/simp kink, much like fuckwit dumbass Jeremy and his small black cock kink. Meanwhile Ivy's had 2-3 interactions, a little flirting with Ian, but nothing at all in terms of romantic/sexual tension.

And on the topic of things poorly written, hell, a solid amount of the characters are so poorly written and easily hateable I'm beginning to question what Eva was thinking. You have the wannabe fucktoy while being a small black cock kink in Jeremy, who gets called out for cheat and has a chance to come clean yet Eva fails to have it cleared up, Axel the potential rapest, which is badly written in the sense that certainly Lena and Axel could have had a working relationship, Axel getting the hint, but noooo... Let make it that Axel still doesn't get the fucking message and, potentially on how you play, gets raped by this douce of an ass. And lets not mention Geymour, who is coming off as a wannabe Bond Villain. And sure, he can help Lena with the money issues, but really going to the cost of barring her from all workaround town? Way to show all the cards there on who he really is Eva, specially this early. Roberto 'Pusspass' Fuckboi is forgettable entirely, not to mention Mark Wannabe Jack-Type. Ed is creepy as fuck for a old man, despite his wholesome appearence. Perry is a balance between 'Bro, your a dumbass but I love' to 'I will fucking murder you in your fucking sleep while my dick is buried in Emma's ass you fucking cunt'. Wade, before the rewrite, which didn't and still doesn't make any sense to do in the first place, had a steady job and simply needed to work on keeping his girl and investing in the relationship with Cindy.

Overall, as much as I loved this game from the beginning, I'm starting to loose the interest in this. Sure, the lack of Ivy-Ian content, which is straight up bullshit and is getting old, is one of main reasons for my current disinterest, and I am "willing" to give Eva untill Chapter 12 at the most for ANYTHING Ian-Ivy related, for me its the fact that most of the Characters are so cliche and poorly handled and written.
 
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Not anymore. It got "rewritten" out. Much like the fact that all of Ivy's content continues to get pushed back and back with any Ian related content. Which is honest to god bullshit. We're 9 Chapters in and all Ivy has to her claim to fucking fame is a half a blowjob/mention blowjob with the resident fuckwit dumbass that apparently deserves to rewarded and not punished at all for his behavior, a hot makeout with Lena, and a half? a threesome with Lena and Holly.

And yet, Eva's gonna have the next update be ALL ABOUT REWORKING STAN. Stan, a character that is pointless, has no plot or interest or adds anything to the story other than a fill in for a voyeur/simp kink, much like fuckwit dumbass Jeremy and his small black cock kink. Meanwhile Ivy's had 2-3 interactions, a little flirting with Ian, but nothing at all in terms of romantic/sexual tension.

And on the topic of things poorly written, hell, a solid amount of the characters are so poorly written and easily hateable I'm beginning to question what Eva was thinking. You have the wannabe fucktoy while being a small black cock kink in Jeremy, who gets called out for cheat and has a chance to come clean yet Eva fails to have it cleared up, Axel the potential rapest, which is badly written in the sense that certainly Lena and Axel could have had a working relationship, Axel getting the hint, but noooo... Let make it that Axel still doesn't get the fucking message and, potentially on how you play, gets raped by this douce of an ass. And lets not mention Geymour, who is coming off as a wannabe Bond Villain. And sure, he can help Lena with the money issues, but really going to the cost of barring her from all workaround town? Way to show all the cards there on who he really is Eva, specially this early. Roberto 'Pusspass' Fuckboi is forgettable entirely, not to mention Mark Wannabe Jack-Type. Ed is creepy as fuck for a old man, despite his wholesome appearence. Perry is a balance between 'Bro, your a dumbass but I love' to 'I will fucking murder you in your fucking sleep while my dick is buried in Emma's ass you fucking cunt'. Wade, before the rewrite, which didn't and still doesn't make any sense to do in the first place, had a steady job and simply needed to work on keeping his girl and investing in the relationship with Cindy.

Overall, as much as I loved this game from the beginning, I'm starting to loose the interest in this. Sure, the lack of Ivy-Ian content, which is straight up bullshit and is getting old, is one of main reasons for my current disinterest, and I am "willing" to give Eva untill Chapter 12 at the most for ANYTHING Ian-Ivy related, for me its the fact that most of the Characters are so cliche and poorly handled and written.
I cannot agree to this enough. At first when they introduced Ivy as the hot, lustful girl I anticipated Ian and her would have more and more interactions later that could even lead to white-washing of hers or maybe just some sort of taming. So far, that didn't happen. We only have some random and seldom meetings of them here and there, and nothing else. While Lena could have some things with Jeremy who is in some way mirrored Ivy. But, blank as the character. Not that intriguing as her.

And this stuff with expanding all nine chapters not only,but mostly for Stan is quite frustrating. I don't even remember him anymore after he was dumped for much of this time. Ehh. I don't know what character he is, where and how he works. Maybe, he isn't only weirdo, but also have good work with more wage than most of the people in game. But, has some difficulties and perversies when it comes to deal with women as a result of his childhood.
 

JohnnySolo

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EvaKiss hinted that Lena will need Ian's help to be saved.
I wasn’t aware of that. It’s not a surprise to be honest, but still good to know that EvaKiss made this hint. Whit that in mind for me now also Lena’s alternate content makes a bit more scene and my idea that Lena (most probably) will have less “good” endings than Ian could seem something that could happen.

I could also think, that Ian’s help will need some condition. If Lena (or better said the player, because Lena makes none of this decisions) fucks her lame, stupid working colleague, is hypocrite regarding cheating, is fucking her ass-hole ex-boyfriend, fucks one of Ian’s friend because of her fetishes or prostitutes herself for a powerful rich intellect, that than Ian’s interest and willingness to help her will very soon drop.
 

JohnnySolo

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Ivy is pretty hot, it's a shame she doesn't even look at Ian. Maybe if we kick Jeremy's ass in the MMA tournament she'll rethink her choices xD
To be honest why should Ivy have any interest in Ian. And I like Ian so don’t get me wrong, but I can’t see what Ian would have to offer what could be from interest for someone like Ivy. A romance story for me is of the table, it would too much brake Ivy’s character, even if “taming the wild girl” might be interesting storyline.

The only thing that I could imagine is that Ivy would try to seduce Ian to get him away from Lena, so that Ivy would have full control over Lena and can use her for her own plans, and once Lena doesn’t want to have anything to do with Ian, Ivy could dump Ian again.

And in the case if Ian would reject Ivy, this could lead to some interesting discussion between Ian and Lena over her “best” friend Ivy.
 

CoalPhelps

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Hello. Which stats does he need to have high enough for this to happen?
As someone already mentioned here, this kiss is no longer in the game. Instead, in this scene, Ivy is now just playfully winking at Ian. And it doesn't require any stats, just the path to it. But if you're still interested:
1) In the first meeting with Axel, you must choose a charismatic response, which requires at least 3 Charisma (Axel +1).
2) Be sure to go to Cindy's photo shoot and answer "It was pretty interesting". Don't say "She belongs to Wade" (Axel +1).
3) Axel will invite Ian to the bar if the conditions above are met. Now it remains only to answer "Lena" in the scene with Ivy.
 

Daken9

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And on the topic of things poorly written, hell, a solid amount of the characters are so poorly written and easily hateable I'm beginning to question what Eva was thinking. You have the wannabe fucktoy while being a small black cock kink in Jeremy, who gets called out for cheat and has a chance to come clean yet Eva fails to have it cleared up, Axel the potential rapest, which is badly written in the sense that certainly Lena and Axel could have had a working relationship, Axel getting the hint, but noooo... Let make it that Axel still doesn't get the fucking message and, potentially on how you play, gets raped by this douce of an ass. And lets not mention Geymour, who is coming off as a wannabe Bond Villain. And sure, he can help Lena with the money issues, but really going to the cost of barring her from all workaround town? Way to show all the cards there on who he really is Eva, specially this early. Roberto 'Pusspass' Fuckboi is forgettable entirely, not to mention Mark Wannabe Jack-Type. Ed is creepy as fuck for a old man, despite his wholesome appearence. Perry is a balance between 'Bro, your a dumbass but I love' to 'I will fucking murder you in your fucking sleep while my dick is buried in Emma's ass you fucking cunt'. Wade, before the rewrite, which didn't and still doesn't make any sense to do in the first place, had a steady job and simply needed to work on keeping his girl and investing in the relationship with Cindy.
It's definetely weird how unilaterally awful people are on Lena's side, especially considering how wholesome GGGB could get at some points (good Jessica, good Eva, Dave, even brodude and the rapey trans-woman).

To be honest why should Ivy have any interest in Ian. And I like Ian so don’t get me wrong, but I can’t see what Ian would have to offer what could be from interest for someone like Ivy. A romance story for me is of the table, it would too much brake Ivy’s character, even if “taming the wild girl” might be interesting storyline.

The only thing that I could imagine is that Ivy would try to seduce Ian to get him away from Lena, so that Ivy would have full control over Lena and can use her for her own plans, and once Lena doesn’t want to have anything to do with Ian, Ivy could dump Ian again.

And in the case if Ian would reject Ivy, this could lead to some interesting discussion between Ian and Lena over her “best” friend Ivy.
I mean, why would Holly suddenly turn gay other than to have scuffed Ashley/Eva. Why would Robert still just plain exist in update 9. Weirder things have happened is what i'm saying, and since Lena ain't Ashley i'd settle for Dave/Jessica 2.0 (read Ian/Ivy) this time around :KEK:
 

SerHawkes

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It's definetely weird how unilaterally awful people are on Lena's side, especially considering how wholesome GGGB could get at some points (good Jessica, good Eva, Dave, even brodude and the rapey trans-woman).
You are not wrong. Lena's "romances" are honest to god shit other than Holly and Ian. Like honestly, what the hell was Eva really thinking. No one appeals/fits Lena, if one is looking for a wholesome romance other than those two. Fuckwit Jeremy is a side piece, while PussPass Boi, like I said earlier, is entirely forgettable and Wannabe Jack is up there as well. And now "Stan" is now going to be in the "running" for her affections? Please...
 

_Zebra_

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It's definetely weird how unilaterally awful people are on Lena's side, especially considering how wholesome GGGB could get at some points (good Jessica, good Eva, Dave, even brodude and the rapey trans-woman).
Not that weird. If I remember correctly, Eva said that Lena story is supposed to feel like a GGGB 2.0. And if you think about it, it is.
- good Jessica = good Ivy, but is too early to tell
- good Eva = good Holly
- brodude = Axel + Jeremy + Mike; Axel has his own business, Jeremy is a player just like Jack and Mike ~ Jack if you ignored him in the first part of the game, but then you decided that Ash wants him.

I mean, why would Holly suddenly turn gay other than to have scuffed Ashley/Eva.
I think she was bi from the start. She liked Ian, nothing worked out but Ivy/Lena showed interested in her. Go girl power!

Why would Robert still just plain exist in update 9.
Someone has to serve the food and the drinks in the restaurant :D I guess he is in the game for the same reason Doug and that other guy form uni were in GGGB.
 

fute8848

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Well, I wouldn’t say Lena’s side bad writing overall, more like some structure weakness of the plot(or should I say game design?) I feel like the dev want us to have as many choices as possible but in the end they all dial down to simple pure or corrupted paths(ending) which I personally feel underwhelming but understandable
 

PervySageKem

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Well, I wouldn’t say Lena’s side bad writing overall, more like some structure weakness of the plot(or should I say game design?) I feel like the dev want us to have as many choices as possible but in the end they all dial down to simple pure or corrupted paths(ending) which I personally feel underwhelming but understandable
Pretty much. It's kinda sad, can't help but feel Eva bit more than she can chew and forgot what story she was trying to tell.
 

dundun

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And this is a valuable and good job! He is still here to show us, that he is a role model, someone how has a good job! *Irony off*
He is head waiter in a prestigious restaurant? He has staff for serving. Sorry, but I am not getting the irony there :)
He is 26, the same age as Ian and his friends and up to this age he is the only one with a real job in the game.
 

Tierra_Azul

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- good Jessica = good Ivy, but is too early to tell
- good Eva = good Holly
- brodude = Axel + Jeremy + Mike; Axel has his own business, Jeremy is a player just like Jack and Mike ~ Jack if you ignored him in the first part of the game, but then you decided that Ash wants him.
We only have some random and seldom meetings of them here and there, and nothing else. While Lena could have some things with Jeremy who is in some way mirrored Ivy.
I would not equate Ivy and Jeremy's character. (And he's nothing like Jack.) Jeremy is in some ways similar to Ian, in the sense that it seems their life has stagnated, he's pushing his 30's is still dreaming about an MMA career that should have started 4 years ago. He spends his weekends bartending in his ripped jeans and red shirt which he never changes. Now, a bartender can earn very good, depending on the club and the city he works in. But it's never hinted that Jeremy is strapped with cash, and it seems more like a part time job. Bartending is also the easiest way in the world to get endless numbers of one-night stands and casual sex partners, which is probably what Jeremy is most concerned with.

Jack was reality-tv celeb. He had a 3 million dollar car and lived in a penthouse. Jeremy trains in a gym, Jack owns the gym. If I was to compare Jeremy with anyone in GGGB, it would be Doug. As he comes off as a walking'-talking' dildo, there to be used and tossed away after use. He's also mainly there to cover the same fetish as Tyorne with that black version of Jonah Falco's cock.

Ivy is a completely different character. She is manipulative, and uses people in her little games (Including Jeremy). She's the spider that weaves webs of lies and intrigue, she's even named after a poisonous plant. She has some of the same characteristics as Jessica, but comes off more callus in my opinion. Jessica was really a drug addled-loner who had no real friends and no direction in life. Ivy seems like she knows what she wants and how to get there. It's quite clear now that she is cooperating with Axel in an effort to ensnare Lena. Jessica would probably never do that to Ash once they became friends.

Also, I don't see any similarity between Holly and Eva. Their personality is too different. Eva is probably more comparable to Louise. Eva had Louises mental quirks combined with Alissons desperate need for recognition.
 

DavDR

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And this is a valuable and good job! He is still here to show us, that he is a role model, someone how has a good job! *Irony off*

Sorry, could hold back to troll a bit our Robert fans, but this was too easy. So, please don’t take it personal ;)
Robert is portrayed as incredibly weak, but he's still better than Ian, Perry, Wade, Jeremy, Seymour, The old guy at the restaurant, Axel, Stan, and any other male characters in the game. I don't like Robert, but I dislike all of the others even more except for maybe Mike, but he's not a viable choice for Lena because he already has a girlfriend. Eva Kiss just doesn't know how to write men.
 
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