It cannot be denied that genetic determinism plays a significant role. Not in decision making, but in predispositions and the ceiling of the development of possibilities. "A man can do anything" is nothing more than a pleasant phrase from entertainers.
It's not a bad analogy. Cindy is effectively Jessica from an earlier point in her arc, before she lost out on Dave and became a jaded party girl. All the more reason to keep Axel off her; if only it didn't require jumping through so many hoops.
So if I don't fap to these games I'm allowed to call Ivy depraved? Good to know!
I'd be fine with that if the game had a second male character that wasn't an asshole. Maybe it's an opportunity for the new Stan content?
I accept, that English is not my first language so I might use certain terms with not accurate meaning. But what is the source of desire if not chemical reaction in your body responding to an outside stimuli with previous positive association with that stimuli?
It doesn't remove agency. It's just another factor that affects your decision-making. The choice that would normally be very easy for you (without temptations), suddenly becomes quite hard because you need to have great willpower to override your biology and resist said temptations to act according to your morals. Some people's morals or willpower are so strong that any desire immediately becomes a non-factor, but the opposite is also true for other people and any such decision turns into a struggle (porn addiction / hypersexuality). Everyone is still making a choice, but driven by different reasons.
Yes, I meant after the kiss because he kisses Lena anyway. You have a choice, to stop the kiss and push him away (that extraction you're talking about) or kissing him back which telegraphs your intention to proceed. Make up your mind on what you want from Lena. You want her to stop Axel or you want to make out with him knowing full well where it would lead? Your actions determine Lena's choice. If you choose to kiss him back, then it means Lena enjoys Axel's attention and wants more.
I get what you mean, I know you didn't mean it in the worst way. It's just what you said is a dangerous rationale that we must not let be perpetuated. It's an argument that is usually associated with "if she came, it wasn't rape", and it's usually used as an attempt to remove agency and blame from peoples actions. I know you meant neither of these things, I'm just saying it was language that we must be careful with.
Genetic determinism is different, I wasn't really addressing that aspect. I was more talking about "my body made me do it", so we both agree with each other since you also say it doesn't affect decision making.
Absolutely true, we are 100% responsible for our own decisions. Great take.
I completely agree. I really hope that there will be an opportunity not only to cockblocking him, but also to bypass Mr. Aryan Assdiger.
Of course, decisions are always made by us and the blame for them cannot be shifted to anything. But because of these oddities of the brain, completely unexpected factors and feelings can interfere with these decisions.
Yeah, same for me. Good thing there are discussions so people can talk about these things and find new VNs to try out.
Hate in Lena, while default, is not everlasting. If she meets with Axel in the cafe to talk, and they part ways in a civil manner, she stops hating him. Doesn't forgive him for cheating or anything, but isn't triggered by his presence anymore and is open to talk with him or even work with him once again. Nothing of that is possible if Lena hates Axel (relationship < 3). And while Ian can be dominant during sex, his sweet personality makes her think differently about Ian. Axel made Lena feel like she belonged to him, and she liked it. To be HIS and nobody else's. That made her feel safe and carefree, like a little girl in her father's arms. She could truly let go, and feel no shame in anything he made her do. That's a very powerful bond and requires years of being together to nurture that trust. With Ian it's nowhere near that level (yet) and that's why Axel has such an advantage at this stage in their lives and can so easily push all the right buttons when they're alone and cause Lena to bask in those familiar feelings and take advantage of those.
Have you got a problem that there is a choice? If you don't like that she fall for Axel again, just choose for her to refuse the kiss, it's that simple. But don't want for everyone else to think like you
I don’t see Cherry as a bad person either, but her own account of what happened showed that she was more aware of what she was doing than I expected, at least. I’m sure there’s more stuff lined up for that path.
I agree on your general take that Axel offers something Ian doesn’t, even if Ian become more dominant in bed. And while I don’t doubt that Lena enjoyed her time with Axel, I’m not sure if it exactly was a healthy relationship for Lena. I think how it ended showed the negative side of their power balance as well — how being the submissive part (not only sexually) not only made her feel safe, but also put her in a very vulnerable position Axel could take advantage of.
I agree with this. That being said, rationality doesn't make for the best porn scenarios or general dirty talk. "I've got suuch low self-esteem right now. And your well chiseled body coupled with my need to feel wanted and accepted due to an abandomnent complex is making me so. damn. hot! Regardless of who I might hurt in the process." Mind-control musk and dickmotized nymphos ftw in that regard. [monocle.gif].
I don't have anything against the choice, I do have against the fact that the MAIN CHARACTER can't also have that choice.
I also think though the choice within the choice is the issues Ian legit can be Cindy as a choice and within that choice you can determine the relationship break up with Wade or Cheat with him as small as that choice is you don't really have that choice with Lena.
