VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Wallsfalldown]

I love when non-writers get really angsty about the time it takes to do pre-planning for a piece of writing. It's clear some of y'all struggled to do a two page essay in school.

 

[Night Hacker]

I love when non-writers get really angsty about the time it takes to do pre-planning for a piece of writing. It's clear some of y'all struggled to do a two page essay in school.

The writing is the hard part for me (trying my own novel out). Unlike a normal story, you have to take into account the many different paths a player can take then account for ALL of them. Then setting up the scenes alone takes time, and you have to account for every path, then the actual rendering is slow on top of it all. And then, when all this is done, you still have to program the game, and then once it is done, you need to actually TEST it to find bugs, spelling errors, problems with certain paths you forgot to account for, and if there are problems, you have to fix them and hope one of your testers didn't leak your test version.

Then you get to release it to people, often at no cost to them and listen to them complain about it and how long it took.

Been trying my hand at a visual novel and I have a new found respect for people who can write a good story, I find that more difficult than all the rest of it.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Emotional rollercoaster. I imagine it will be very amazing at first, but then Ian's patience will be tested, and he'd probably need a lot of Wits and Charisma to keep it up and prove to her that he's a better option than Wade or Axel.

Yes, in fact, I think in some ways it may be one of the most difficult paths from a writer's perspective. First of all, depending on how this relationship started, Ian may have fucked up almost his entire circle of friends. Even Lena would be outrageous if she knew what he had done. Second, that rollercoaster you described. If Ian has an organic relationship with Lena or Holly, with Cindy, even when they're having fun and being nice, it's more abrasive, Cindy likes it spicy and provocative. So this relationship will be as intense as possible and rollercoaster indeed.

 

[CoalPhelps]

Okay, guys, I want to translate Eva games into Russian, but I need to understand that someone needs it at all. Is it worth starting or is this effort in vain?

 

[BloodyMares]

Okay, guys, I want to translate Eva games into Russian, but I need to understand that someone needs it at all. Is it worth starting or is this effort in vain?

I'm not sure it's good for your health to attempt a translation of at this stage of development, while the scripts get updated all the time (mostly with bug fixes). It's a massive undertaking regardless, but with constant updates, you'd also have to check each new update for the changes in the early scripts, and if there were minor tweaks, you'd have to properly update your localization as well, just like I have to do for the walkthrough, and like JohnDupont does for his JDMOD. I was actually thinking about doing a translation for this game at one point, but I know it would be too much work for one person (even the walkthrough feels like it at times), especially if nobody's supporting you monetarily for it.

If you're not scared by these difficulties and are still committed to the idea, then maybe you could translate GGGB first to measure your ability to commit to something so big? At least you could work at your own pace and not have to worry about rewriting your translation, since the game is finished. I don't believe that game was localized properly (mostly machine translation).

If you want to focus on ORS, then let me discuss it with Eva. Our programmer proposed an easier way to implement multiple languages. If Eva greenlights it, then we can make it into an official localization, and i could provide the latest scripts so you won't have to manually check each script for changes in every release.

 

[CoalPhelps]

I'm not sure it's good for your health to attempt a translation of at this stage of development, while the scripts get updated all the time (mostly with bug fixes). It's a massive undertaking regardless, but with constant updates, you'd also have to check each new update for the changes in the early scripts, and if there were minor tweaks, you'd have to properly update your localization as well, just like I have to do for the walkthrough, and like JohnDupont does for his JDMOD. I was actually thinking about doing a translation for this game at one point, but I know it would be too much work for one person (even the walkthrough feels like it at times), especially if nobody's supporting you monetarily for it.

If you're not scared by these difficulties and are still committed to the idea, then maybe you could translate GGGB first to measure your ability to commit to something so big? At least you could work at your own pace and not have to worry about rewriting your translation, since the game is finished. I don't believe that game was localized properly (mostly machine translation).

If you want to focus on ORS, then let me discuss it with Eva. Our programmer proposed an easier way to implement multiple languages. If Eva greenlights it, then we can make it into an official localization, and i could provide the latest scripts so you won't have to manually check each script for changes in every release.

Well, yeah, I guess I should have been more specific. Yes, of course, at this point I'm only going to take on GGGB. My enthusiasm isn't enough to translate the same thing after rewritings like in chapter 9. I've already started translating Being a DIK and I realized that Ren'Py can be such a bitch, so I'd feel more comfortable working on something stable.

 

[camube]

I just started playing this game and i'd like to ask, how to unlock the scene between Lena Calls Rob Over and Agrees to Photoshoot with Seymour

There's a scene in-between the two that I don't know how to unlock

I saw your walkthrough and it seems like it's scene 3-7 but i still can't get it. I went through 4 speed runs and still can't unlock it.

 

[Gicoo]

Additional to the scene camube misses (which is also Roberts fifth scene I assume), I also miss Roberts ninth scene (which would be Lenas thirteenth scene). IIRC you have refuse Robert occasionally to get different scenes, but everytime I pair him up with Lena, I tend to just agree meeting him whenever I can (unless Lena can chose between him and other guys).

 

[camube]

Additional to the scene camube misses (which is also Roberts fifth scene I assume), I also miss Roberts ninth scene (which would be Lenas thirteenth scene). IIRC you have refuse Robert occasionally to get different scenes, but everytime I pair him up with Lena, I tend to just agree meeting him whenever I can (unless Lena can chose between him and other guys).

Robert's 9th scene is a morning BJ. Yeah that's also hard to get. I'm not sure how i managed to get it either on my 4 speedruns.

I'd like to say it has something to do with Cafe life drawing + rejecting Ian after cafe life drawing fight but i'm not sure that's even necessary

 

[BloodyMares]

I just started playing this game and i'd like to ask, how to unlock the scene between Lena Calls Rob Over and Agrees to Photoshoot with Seymour

There's a scene in-between the two that I don't know how to unlock

I saw your walkthrough and it seems like it's scene 3-7 but i still can't get it. I went through 4 speed runs and still can't unlock it.

The gallery unlocks are not up to date. PilotLara didn't have time to work on it. Robert's scenes have been reworked in the Remaster, and there's one scene in the Gallery that refers to an old scene that doesn't exist anymore (was moved elsewhere).

Currently, in Chapters 2 - 4, there are only 3 main scenes with Robert (that differ slightly based on how/when you get to them):
1) Lena's first time with Robert: Seen either in Chapter 2 if you bring him home or in Chapter 3 instead of the masturbation scene if you chose to wait.

2) Second time: Either in Ch 3 if you agree to have sex with Robert right after Sunday date, or instead of the masturbation scene, or in Chapter 4.

3) Third time: Either in Chapter 3 when you call Robert over during masturbation scene or in Chapter 4.

So, if you had sex with Robert at least 3 times before the start of Chapter 5, it's unlikely that you missed anything (except for the morning blowjob in Chapter 2).

 

[BloodyMares]

Robert's 9th scene is a morning BJ. Yeah that's also hard to get. I'm not sure how i managed to get it either on my 4 speedruns.

Just restrain yourself and don't suck him off in Chapter 2. It's basically the same scene, unlocked twice. Personally, there's no point in having 2 separate slots for almost exactly the same scene, but it's up to Lara whether to keep it as it is or merge them under one slot.

 

[camube]

Hi! Thank you for the answer.

I have another question. My first blind playthrough (and the first couple blind speedruns), i always managed to get the "Can I tag along" Holly's booktrip option, but once I realized there is a "Cherry Path" and once i did Cherry Path onwards (and subsequent times), i never manage to get Holly booktrip / Wade Birthday options again.

Do you know what are the requirements for Holly's booktrip?

Did I just accidentally chose unoptimal dialogue options when talking to Holly or does it have something to do with Allison's dates?

I know 2 Allison dates coincides with Holly's. If I go to 1 Allison date and 1 Holly date, is it still possible for the Holly's booktrip option to be available if i choose optimal dialogues when talking to Holly?

Or is 2 Holly dates a requirement for the booktrips? (or not chasing Cherry path)

 

[Gicoo]

Holly and Cherry are not mutually exclusive, you can easily date both of them. Your problem isn't handling Cherry and Holly, but handling Allison and Holly. I imagine dating those two at once is way trickier.

You don't have to interact with Allison to be in Cherrys favour at all. But chosing the two dates with Allison instead of Holly lowers the latters affection. Most likely the reason she doesn't believe Ian is interested enough in her to invite him to the fair.

 

[Ali753]

How hot the ntr with jeremy, I would like to see a scene of lena talking to ian on the phone... while she attends to jeremy

 

[BloodyMares]

Did I just accidentally chose unoptimal dialogue options when talking to Holly or does it have something to do with Allison's dates?

Most likely picked some wrong dialogue. You need Holly to invite him to the trip in the first place, and that only happens if Ian called Holly cute and they have a decent relationship (more than 5). I think it was during Chapter 3 date, right before hanging out at the bar with Cindy and friends, where Ian can call Holly cute.

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

And an extra one, my personal pick and one of my favourite entries, Succubus Lena by the Black Pharaoh.

Succubus Lena is so cool. Really. Most of the 3D renders seem to attempt to just recreate the characters, but still don’t give off the same vibe as Eva’s versions—with the exception of Stan, who looks even more like Stan than the original. But Succubus Lena is a level above the rest in my opinion. It captions the same aura as the original, just with one part of her character highlighted and interpreted in an original way.

As was first mentioned on Patreon, it would’ve been really funny if it was included in one of Ian’s dreams. (For example if he’s in an open relationship with Lena, and he’s struggling to keep up with her sexual appetite and suggestions for new forms of “experimenting”; or if he’s in a relationship with someone else, like Alison, and tries to stop fantasising about Lena, but fails and keeps jerking off to her Stalkfap, goes to her nude modelling classes etc.) Or just in a more subtle way—as a poster in Stan’s room or something along those lines.

No reason to think Eva is planning on it (even though she mentioned it’s her personal pick), but I think it would’ve been a cool thing to do, as long as it fits the story and is implemented in a good way.

 

[lipe2410]

How hot the ntr with jeremy, I would like to see a scene of lena talking to ian on the phone... while he attends to jeremy

Quite interesting taste, my friend

 

[Ali753]

Quite interesting taste, my friend

Sorry, I speak another language.
That would be weird even for me

 

[Amahl Farouk]

Today on channel F95 : yet another game development becomes slower as the game progresses and becomes more complex.
Entitled pirates becomes angry about it and say Eva must be lazy and rich and doesn't care anymore. Nevermind the fact there are more routes with each chapters and the game is an anti-kinetic novel. THEY MUST BE RIGHT AND IT'S OUTRAGEOUS!!

More shocking details at 5.

This report just in.

Angry protestors today surrounded the studios of a well known game developer , carrying burning torches and chanting, "We want our porn, when do we want it ... NOW!"

Our interepid field reporter Miss Leticia Spankpants spoke so some of the protestors earlier today and asked them to explain the reason for their protests

" We wuz promised porn, where is porn? We get porn or we start fire in diz plaze"

"And there you have it" says Miss Spankypants "Seems these protestors are quite clear about their demands. Back to you in the studio Gus Throbbindick"

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[Mesmerizet]

You're right. I think Cindy is conflicted. In your playthrough, she's influenced both by Axel and Ian. Axel shows her the things that she'd like in her life, while Ian can inspire her to deal with her problems instead of avoiding them (which is what pushes her towards Axel in the first place) and reminds her that what she's doing is not exactly fair to Wade. However, unless your Ian banged her, Cindy clearly doesn't want Ian going with her and tells him to go home. If you take into the fact that it might not be the first time for Ian to see her naked, then this obvious resistance can be a sign that she wants to be alone with Axel, not exactly with intent to have something with him, but just to have his company because she feels very good around him.

I was talking particularly about a branch of the story where Ian didn't go to Cindy's shoot (building that special connection with her) and didn't try to fix relationship for Wade (causing Cindy to feel more frustration with him). At this point it becomes mathematical: Frustration for Wade makes her vulnerable to both Ian's and Axel's influence, but since Ian chooses to be passive, Cindy feels stronger attraction for Axel because he becomes the only person in her life who is supportive of her and inspires her to be her ideal person. Add to that the fact she's eager to pose naked for him (which is why she couldn't wait another 2 weeks), that reinforces my observation that in this particular branch she developed a crush on Axel, and is looking for any excuse to see him more often.

Emotional rollercoaster. I imagine it will be very amazing at first, but then Ian's patience will be tested, and he'd probably need a lot of Wits and Charisma to keep it up and prove to her that he's a better option than Wade or Axel.

It makes complete sense tbh. If Ian plays a passive role in Cindy's modelling decisions and relationship, then she will most likely be swooped away by Axel. Even if Ian chooses to pursue her, it's an active competition between Cindy and Axel.