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Remy steals, that is what he does, a textbook definition of a bull in cringe mangas.
He does what he wants, as a bartender he entertains his guests, throwing pics of
his conquests like scraps to other guys he thinks are beneath him.

All the guys in this game are written beneath him as he gets girls dropped on him,
just like any dumb bull would in those mangas.

He is a caricature, a trope,
especailly like Ian is another trope: bull- JR meets incel-Ian.

The cruelty of JR shows as he convinces the discombobulated Ian to ask his crush out,
only to go molest her just ”cause evil bull assholes are evil and so unworthy,
but dev ex makina throws all these girls into him.

Only girl to resist, Ivy, is the other antichrist of this story,
so we got evil cancel evil.

Sure enough players fall for these evil + evil psycho maniacal

whoremongers like moths in the flame. Enjoy the burnt smell! The pyre rages for days.
 

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Remy steals, that is what he does, a textbook definition of a bull in cringe mangas.
He does what he wants, as a bartender he entertains his guests, throwing pics of
his conquests like scraps to other guys he thinks are beneath him.

All the guys in this game are written beneath him as he gets girls dropped on him,
just like any dumb bull would in those mangas.

He is a caricature, a trope,
especailly like Ian is another trope: bull- JR meets incel-Ian.

The cruelty of JR shows as he convinces the discombobulated Ian to ask his crush out,
only to go molest her just ”cause evil bull assholes are evil and so unworthy,
but dev ex makina throws all these girls into him.

Only girl to resist, Ivy, is the other antichrist of this story,
so we got evil cancel evil.

Sure enough players fall for these evil + evil psycho maniacal

whoremongers like moths in the flame. Enjoy the burnt smell! The pyre rages for days.
you're taking this too seriously. you know you can block your worst nightmare JEREMY from being with any girl through your choices right? you can let him have all the girls or non of them. I really don't know if you're serious or just trolling.
 

Canto Forte

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The thing is, like the walkthrough maker said in so many posts:
Ian has to actively fight Remy off his girls, for real,
more than actually talking to them,
making it a pain to play this according to the premise:
Ian gets better and has meaningful talks with the crush of his life,
but the fire options are tricky to get points enough for
and one could easily loose even the BFF crush and everyone else to Remy
because of that first night out where Remy is all over Ian”s crush
for the most horrible time of his life: that kind a betrayal is grounds to terminate all friendship,
which this game does not allow, as Ian is held into the incel circle
with all the other loosers written beneath Remy for plot shenanigans, I guess.
 

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The fact that some people think Ian isn't going to get cucked by Jeremy after jerking off to the porn he sent him is hilarious to me.

I for one, am looking forward to it in 2025 once the Chapter 11 is out.
If you are into Alison, you might get that in Chapter 10. If you play all the cards right:
- miss out your first chance with Alison
- ask Jeremy for details
- go after her the second time (as in sleep with her, you'll need 1 will point)
- ask Jeremy for pictures (you'll get only one)
- try to max out the relationship with Alison(full love route)
- in chapter 7 I think, you can end up with this:
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- agree to have a threesome
Most likely it won't be a cuck scenario, but definitely you can view it as a hotwife/sharing scenario.
 

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iAN: i KNOW KING FU, YOU ASSHOLE! HIJAAaaaAAAaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

miss out your first chance with Alison
Ian: I am getting my BFF home safe it I have to kill all these assholes!!!!!


ask Jeremy for details
Ian: Who that assholle? He a nobody! Go fkk yourself for even suggesting it!!

ask Jeremy for pictures
Ian: Phukkkkkkkk!!!!! I do not need dkk pics form that asshole, are you mental !!!

try to max out the relationship with Alison
Ian: this game is rigged for that asshole! I am murdering him and burning down his bar!
 

CoalPhelps

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The thing is, like the walkthrough maker said in so many posts:
Ian has to actively fight Remy off his girls, for real,
more than actually talking to them,
making it a pain to play this according to the premise:
Ian gets better and has meaningful talks with the crush of his life,
but the fire options are tricky to get points enough for
and one could easily loose even the BFF crush and everyone else to Remy
because of that first night out where Remy is all over Ian”s crush
for the most horrible time of his life: that kind a betrayal is grounds to terminate all friendship,
which this game does not allow, as Ian is held into the incel circle
with all the other loosers written beneath Remy for plot shenanigans, I guess.
'Da hell you're talking about, Allison isn't even a crush for Ian, it's the opposite in their situation, just... Baaah, smh.
 

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Is it worth pursuing Cindy at the expense of your friendship with Wade?
I had an option where I could tell Wade to fight for her and I'm not sure if that causes him to clean up his act or not.
 
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You get a scene with her in the back alley and Jeremy bombs your good times,
because dev ex makina likes to get the asshole in every damn scene.
Players are obsessed with this over the top trope bull Remy, there is no escaping him.
Wade is a non variable at this time, just bringing you bad karma and down on your luck feelings.
 
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The fact that some people think Ian isn't going to get cucked by Jeremy after jerking off to the porn he sent him is hilarious to me.

I for one, am looking forward to it in 2025 once the Chapter 11 is out.
firstly not everyone plays the same way you do and secondly chapter eleven won't be out before 2077
 

Yokanzo

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In my game Lena fucked Robert and some other guys for a bit but Ian had Alison and I think a couple other girls. But I found it immersive that way in that he was just a rebound guy she fucked without having any feelings for him, dumped him when it was convenient and gradually went for Ian. Ian likewise had his own situation and it culminated in them becoming a couple.

Where I fucked up was trusting that I still had a way out of the Seymour situation and Lena got railroaded into being his sex toy by cosplaying that scene from True Lies. I guess there were strings attached in those photo shoots but I didn't expect her actions to cause the guy to basically pull strings to ruin her other jobs so she'd have no choice but to be with him. Especially after entering a committed relationship. THAT is some real cucking/NTR shit right there. You only get let off on a technicality.

Anyway not sure why everyone is so weird about Jeremy in this game. He's not a threat unless you work hard to make him one. There are charismatic fuck boys out there who can and will attract all kinds of women including the ones you like in real life. His character isn't out of the ordinary other than the weird emphasis some people place on him. Alison isn't even that special. She reminds me of people I knew in real life who are keeners in their professional lives but also sexually frustrated with their crushes not reciprocating so they go out and fuck anyone else to feel better. Guys do it too.

Eva Kiss seems to have provided enough variation that its really up to the player to decide how much of a trainwreck everyone becomes.
 

BlandChili

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Is it worth pursuing Cindy at the expense of your friendship with Wade?
I had an option where I could tell Wade to fight for her and I'm not sure if that causes him to clean up his act or not.
Worth depends on what you want with Cindy I suppose.
She has the beginnings of both a romantic route and a more lecherous one where Ian asks her to keep cheating on Wade.
 

Canto Forte

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The seymour asshole is just like the first asshole working with Lena and treating her like dirt,
then asking her out like a fking psycho - stay the fkk away from her you moronig asshole!

Seymour tells nude life statue posing Lena point blank he is a fkking beginner at photography but will pick it up
if she moddels for him, if she stands nakkid for his perving on her - his idea is psychotic right after he is a retard asshole to her in the restaurant - fkk you you asshole idiot, Lena is nobody”s toy you hurt monger asshole!

Do none of y”all remember what American Psycho does to his nekkid life artforms women?

Axel has been beating Lena and using her in the past, that is why she broke up/escaped/ran for her life,
but this game offers assholes the possibility to make her go back to the asshole, pretty much like all the assholes
in this game, he already wants to use Lena as a lifeless sex doll adn that was a huge red flag right from the start.

Lena does not need any of these assholes, that is the catch, they keep pursuing her but treat her like dirt,
so why the hell should we push Lena into them? There is no upside, only in her head.
In their demented ashsoles head, they think they are this gift to women and them being assholes gets them girls.

This is why this world is going to shit every damn day.

Where I fucked up was trusting that I still had a way out of the Seymour situation and Lena got railroaded into being his sex toy by cosplaying that scene from True Lies. I guess there were strings attached in those photo shoots but I didn't expect her actions to cause the guy to basically pull strings to ruin her other jobs so she'd have no choice but to be with him. Especially after entering a committed relationship. THAT is some real cucking/NTR shit right there. You only get let off on a technicality.
The premise of the game right in the beginning is Ian trying to get with Allison and is asking Remy for pointers to be able to do so, him being this incel trope nobody and
Remy being this bull asshole who just grabs girls and molests them kind a like date rape.

Then the night out comes and Ian has to fight for a lot of points during his first night out with Allison, because Remy is actually drawn groping her and molesting her right then and there like she was a fkking lifeless sex doll.

That is the disconnect: Ian tells Remy he wants to date Allison,Remy agrees to help him, but then actively steals her if Ian makes even the slightest mistake.

I had to play with the mod to actually get anywhere with Ian in this game about assholes
getting girls dropped on them all the time, but not MC, game forbid!
 
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Yokanzo

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Lol. I played Ian like a healthy balanced human being leveling up my stats in a balanced equal way. There were a few missed opportunities and there was that scene with Alison being groped by Jeremy but at that time she was fair game and she let it happen so its not like he's stealing anyone. You never "had" her in the first place... By the end of my chapter 9 playthrough my Ian was competent in Jiu Jitsu, got the upper hand in his career, hooked Perry up with Emma, became an accomplished writer and was banging Lena on the regular and even though she fucked other guys she likes him the best. In fact the whole concerns about them seeing other people were raised and addressed in the game with them going exclusive.

I don't think there's anything unusual about what's going on here other than the whole Seymour thing.

There's no incel vibe here. Don't project your personal insecurities on the characters.

I mean put it this way. If you were a woman who looked like Lena or Alison or Ivy what do you think would happen if you put yourself in group situations where there were guys other girls liked? Same shit as Jeremy. He's a good looking dude, with a big dick and a very social job where he bartends. It doesn't take much, you could do it too. Just work out and practice your social skills and work in a job that gives your opportunities (I.e. bartender).
 

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So to you, if you go out and you tell your friend/supposed ally who supposedly is helping you in getting this girl you liked, but he goes right then and there and gropes that girl, you would still be friends with the asshole, righT? She be your fair game?
 

Yokanzo

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So to you, if you go out and you tell your friend/supposed ally who supposedly is helping you in getting this girl you liked, but he goes right then and there and gropes that girl, you would still be friends with the asshole, righT? She be your fair game?
I have a friend with a natural charisma and confidence that draws women to him. One time he and and another friend of mine were at odds over a girl. He put up an effort to avoid any kind of contact with the girl but she kept pushing it and eventually he fell for her too and the other friend kept saying he stole her when there was nothing to steal. I don't think Jeremy went out of his way to "Steal" her she was playing him and Ian simultaneously with Jeremy as a sort of placeholder since it was Ian who she really wanted. But if Ian isn't reciprocating she's happy to take the silver medal and Jeremy isn't going to give a shit at that point because she's pushing the initiative.

Alison is the kind of girl who likes to go for what's easy and familiar because it gives her comfort and helps soothe her insecurities or need for affection. The minute you give her any kind of attention it's like catnip, she goes crazy. It's why my Ian just treated her like a sex friend and I even told Jeremy I'd be willing to share because I didn't give a shit.

Theres a drinking game scenario with Jeremy, Ivy, Lena and Louise where Lena could suck his dick and open up a route with him, but if Ian is with Lena she has to absolutely insist on it at first.

"Stealing" someone, especially someone you haven't seriously been dating and at this point only exchanged a few texts with is fair game. Girl gets to decide and if she really wants it she's gonna make it clear.

Long story short - if it wasn't Jeremy it would be someone else. There's always gonna be another guy. It's very rare people serial date. Most people play the field unless they get caught in a fast moving whirlwind romance where they get married 2 months later.
 
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