dontcarewhateverno

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oh yeah,ian taking cindy from behind while cindy orally satisfying lena,who in turn gives stan a blowjob.axel satisfying holly hard on his missionary position to orgasm,while jeremy gives her a hard blowjob.and in the background there is a threesome between minerva,allison and seymour. :devilish: :devilish:
By mindful, I was thinking more along the lines of Lena donning some Victorian Era garb and giving Ian's asshole a thorough tongue-lashing + a dainty pinky-finger ball-tickling as he bunghole's a maid-outfitted Holly, grabbing her bony ass with one hand and reading War & Peace with the other as she attempts to play the flute. Perry serves tea.

But your way works, too.
 
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soprano31

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By mindful, I was thinking more along the lines of Lena donning some Victorian Era garb and giving Ian's asshole a thorough tongue-lashing + a dainty pinky-finger ball-tickling as he bunghole's a maid-outfitted Holly, grabbing her bony ass with one hand and reading War & Peace with the other as she attempts to play the flute. Perry serves tea.

But your way works, too.
thank you!an i also find your way of thinking attractive!!i can really see it before me :love: :love:
 
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soprano31

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Do you think оn Cindy's love path she feels the same way about Ian as he does about her?
i really hope she throws wade out right away,and goes for ian,all the rest are just fuckbuddies,but cindy is perfection herself,a natural beauty!!
 
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John Doe Jr.

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Do you think оn Cindy's love path she feels the same way about Ian as he does about her?
This is a good question and honestly I'm not sure. I've been thinking if there's actually something deeper Cindy feels for Ian or is it she just feels so stuck and stagnant currently and Ian offers up something she perceives as "exciting" and will give her that meaning in life. Because there's a difference. If she doesn't have actual feelings for Ian as a person and it's just the second option then essentially she's not in love with Ian she's in love with and chasing that excitement and meaning in life which could lead her to false solutions like Axel or a Seymour type of person.
 

MrWally

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Its been a while since the last update. Think i have to start all over to remember. Personally i hope Cindy went with Axel ( i did play it with Ian not following her) and fucked the shit out of her getting Lena all jalous or something like that
 
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JohnnyKiss

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I wonder if Ian and/or Lena will get the middle choice in the future
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Third (Middle) Option here is redundant. Especially since Lena and Ian can cheat on one another immediately after committing to a relationship. So just let the player make choices through the game to either cheat or be faithful.
 

CoalPhelps

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Do you think оn Cindy's love path she feels the same way about Ian as he does about her?
I think at this point she's definitely feeling some sympathy for Ian, but she's undecided about how and who she feels and who she'd be better off with (Wade? Axel? Ian?). First of all, as Ian well noted during their hangout at the Shine, she's looking for close attention and something new and exciting, some kind of adventure. Plus she needs someone to please her ego, to make her feel valued and needed, which is why she is so flattered by Axel, who is constantly showering her with compliments.

Ergo, she might love him in the future, but for now it's just flux between them.
 

BloodyMares

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The argument that I was countering was that she was slow because she was slow delivering the latest update because she needed "a more reasonable work schedule instead of a [sic] erratic one" and that "if she has a pattern and a deadline she puts on herself, that can probably alleviate these problems." I don't believe at all that those ideas are the reason or the answer.
Oh of course. The reason she ditched self-imposed deadlines is because they only put extra stress and she felt shitty, not being able to make it in time instead of focusing on work, having to constantly apologize that the release was late by a week or two or three. So, what's the point in setting up a deadline for yourself if you can never meet it anyway and only feel extra pressure? Not having a deadline is not the problem, more like a consequence of the problem (too much to do and complex situations that are tricky to write in a satisfying way that would also feel in-character).
 

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Oh of course. The reason she ditched self-imposed deadlines is because they only put extra stress and she felt shitty, not being able to make it in time instead of focusing on work, having to constantly apologize that the release was late by a week or two or three. So, what's the point in setting up a deadline for yourself if you can never meet it anyway and only feel extra pressure? Not having a deadline is not the problem, more like a consequence of the problem (too much to do and complex situations that are tricky to write in a satisfying way that would also feel in-character).
That is one way of viewing deadlines. The other one is that a deadline helps you to focus on the important work, it reduces the likelihood of procrastination and makes you feel good about yourself when you finish something on time. That stress and pressure that you are talking about is not always a bad thing.
what's the point in setting up a deadline for yourself if you can never meet it anyway
Now this is an actual problem. If someone is unable to meet any self-imposed deadlines, for a longer period of time, that should raise some flags that something it's terribly wrong and just continuing to do the same thing is not ok.
 

BloodyMares

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Do you think оn Cindy's love path she feels the same way about Ian as he does about her?
The main question is, what does Ian feel? Is he really in love with Cindy, or is simply lusting over her and feels fun talking to? I don't think either of them have deep feelings for each other, they seem like teenagers who are only discovering attraction for each other. But if Ian's attraction is more physical, Cindy's attraction is more emotional but I'd say is equal in intensity. She's not the one to fuck without some level of connection. Ian encourages her to do what she loves and appreciates her when Wade doesn't, and is himself an artistically-inclined person that she respects and seems to even be a little jealous of, she likes how passionate Ian is in pursuit of his goals and I think that rubbed off on her, making her pursue her modeling hobby with equal passion. Even her lust for Axel (that she tries to suppress) is fueled by admiration for his work and new satisfaction he can give her, not sexually but emotionally / professionally. After all he's her key to a life full of excitements where she can do something she enjoys and is naturally good at, receiving intoxicating praise all the time, opposed to distracted and grumpy Wade who is never happy with her ideas and unlike Ian is too jealous to fully trust her with her newfound passion.

But that partnership works for her as long as Ian pleases her. We can see how quickly she can explode and ditch him if he does something that pisses her off, like agreeing with Wade or trying to be controlling / over-protective, impairing that emotional attraction. Also, her attraction to people is additionally fueled by her dissatisfaction with others. She gets attracted to Ian so quickly due to her poor relationship with Wade, and in turn gets even more attracted to Axel if Ian does something to annoy her. I guess we'll see her true feelings for Ian once she breaks up with Wade and won't feel the need to constantly rebel against him.
 

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The main question is, what does Ian feel? Is he really in love with Cindy, or is simply lusting over her and feels fun talking to? I don't think either of them have deep feelings for each other, they seem like teenagers who are only discovering attraction for each other. But if Ian's attraction is more physical, Cindy's attraction is more emotional but I'd say is equal in intensity. She's not the one to fuck without some level of connection. Ian encourages her to do what she loves and appreciates her when Wade doesn't, and is himself an artistically-inclined person that she respects and seems to even be a little jealous of, she likes how passionate Ian is in pursuit of his goals and I think that rubbed off on her, making her pursue her modeling hobby with equal passion. Even her lust for Axel (that she tries to suppress) is fueled by admiration for his work and new satisfaction he can give her, not sexually but emotionally / professionally. After all he's her key to a life full of excitements where she can do something she enjoys and is naturally good at, receiving intoxicating praise all the time, opposed to distracted and grumpy Wade who is never happy with her ideas and unlike Ian is too jealous to fully trust her with her newfound passion.

But that partnership works for her as long as Ian pleases her. We can see how quickly she can explode and ditch him if he does something that pisses her off, like agreeing with Wade or trying to be controlling / over-protective, impairing that emotional attraction. Also, her attraction to people is additionally fueled by her dissatisfaction with others. She gets attracted to Ian so quickly due to her poor relationship with Wade, and in turn gets even more attracted to Axel if Ian does something to annoy her. I guess we'll see her true feelings for Ian once she breaks up with Wade and won't feel the need to constantly rebel against him.
Nah. If she actually had a deadline she would try harder to meet it. The absence of consequences is an issue.
 

BloodyMares

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That is one way of viewing deadlines. The other one is that a deadline helps you to focus on the important work, it reduces the likelihood of procrastination and makes you feel good about yourself when you finish something on time. That stress and pressure that you are talking about is not always a bad thing.

Now this is an actual problem. If someone is unable to meet any self-imposed deadlines, for a longer period of time, that should raise some flags that something it's terribly wrong and just continuing to do the same thing is not ok.
I don't think that Eva is the one to procrastinate (or at least wasn't before Chapter 9). It's just easy to undervalue the amount of time that the task will require no matter how easy it seems. For example I thought It'd take me only a week to release the Beta version of the 0.9 Remastered guide because in my mind the task was simple, therefore quick, but in reality it proved to be not the case due to unforeseen challenges (simple tasks can actually be quite tedious). I do think Eva has personal goals, having a desirable approximate time-window for the release, after all you don't want to drag things out because you tend to simply loose interest and passion over time. I'd like to play Chapter 9 Remastered already (still didn't get the chance to do so) to have the saves ready to test Ian's Chapter 10 content, but can't get to it until I finish with the Beta, and that's very annoying. I think Eva was feeling the same when writing Ian's part, having interesting ideas about Lena's scenes brewing in her mind already, but not being able to execute them until she managed to finish off that complex scene for Ian.

I do agree that there must be some other problem that gets in the way of productivity, and whatever it is I doubt it's easily solvable.
 

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Assuming her public posts are truthful, Eva Kiss needs a writing buddy. It's why writers' rooms exist. You need somebody to bounce ideas off to get the ball rolling and be ahead of schedule. Especially for episodic content. The dev admitted in April 2021 that they were struggling with the writing -- this is still the case in September 2022. In these 17 months, we got two updates and one revision.

I think the revision was a complete time waster and made the game more disjointed. I'm talking only about the writing and story changes, not the illustrations and other improvements. I think it doesn't bode well for ORS' future that the dev hasn't been able to get over her writer's block in a year and a half, even after she paused the work on 1.0 to revisit old content.
 
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