SpyderArachnid

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Wouldn't it be better to add that "Abandoned" tag already? I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade but it has been such a long time.
A game only gets the abandoned tag if has been over six months and there is no news from the developer within that six month period (here or on their patreon/itch, etc). EvaKiss has been giving updates on progress and the patreons have decided to wait for her to finish Lena's part before release. So, not abandoned.

Originally, she was just going to release the update with Ian's part done only, but patreons voted to wait till Lena's part was done so they could get a full release, instead of a partial one. Thus the long delay.
 

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A game only gets the abandoned tag if has been over six months and there is no news from the developer within that six month period (here or on their patreon/itch, etc). EvaKiss has been giving updates on progress and the patreons have decided to wait for her to finish Lena's part before release. So, not abandoned.

Originally, she was just going to release the update with Ian's part done only, but patreons voted to wait till Lena's part was done so they could get a full release, instead of a partial one. Thus the long delay.
3 months not 6 for the dev activity and 18months for a game update to get the tag.
 

SpyderArachnid

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3 months not 6 for the dev activity and 18months for a game update to get the tag.
Always thought it was six months all around, as that is what a mod told me. Then again, that was years ago, so could be different now. Haven't really kept up with that stuff lol.
 

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So the game gets "Abandoned" tag no matter if the Dev gives updates on the progress if there is no Game update in 18 months?

Interesting...
So on October 25th, 2023...

Of course by then chapter 10 will be out, probably chapter 11 as well, maybe chapter 12 even? No point speculating though (there's already enough of that in this thread).
 

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It seems that most of the developers nowadays are competing on whose title will take more time to release with even less content than expected..
I miss the era of Dreams of desire where you would get monthly releases with both quality and quantity and people would still complain, little did they know that a few years later things would only get worse...
 

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It seems that most of the developers nowadays are competing on whose title will take more time to release with even less content than expected..
I miss the era of Dreams of desire where you would get monthly releases with both quality and quantity and people would still complain, little did they know that a few years later things would only get worse...
Yeah I remember monthly updates, it was a fun time playing Dating daughter game, dual family
 
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It seems that most of the developers nowadays are competing on whose title will take more time to release with even less content than expected..
I miss the era of Dreams of desire where you would get monthly releases with both quality and quantity and people would still complain, little did they know that a few years later things would only get worse...
Agreed. It looks like it's all about money, as always. As long as they got money from Patreon they're content to drag the development on and on.

All they need is to get a few words about update progress and they'll get their wage for a month.

Honesty is on rare thing these days. Well, that and doing it for fun I guess.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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It seems that most of the developers nowadays are competing on whose title will take more time to release with even less content than expected..
I miss the era of Dreams of desire where you would get monthly releases with both quality and quantity and people would still complain, little did they know that a few years later things would only get worse...
Yes, it was cool when we got updates once a month, but...
Graphics in games were much more primitive, rendering was faster. The plots were generally primitive, most of the games were good only for clicking to the sex scenes and jerking off to it. And the updates weren't big, they usually took half an hour, an hour at the most.
Now the players requirements have grown a lot, developers such as DrPinkCake have raised the bar quality and for the main VN updates are very big.
And the visual quality in them is not inferior to AAA games. Of course, Eve delayed this update a lot, despite the fact that it will be very large. Only half of the game, Ian's part is the size of Episode 5. I think by her standards the development speed of such an episode should not exceed 5 months, that is, it should have been released a month ago, but 6 months have already passed since the last update and I think we will wait until at least the end of November under the best scenario. I think she has serious problems with inspiration and management, especially after burnout. But now that she's hired an outsourcer, hopefully things are going better.
 

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Yes, it was cool when we got updates once a month, but...
Graphics in games were much more primitive, rendering was faster. The plots were generally primitive, most of the games were good only for clicking to the sex scenes and jerking off to it. And the updates weren't big, they usually took half an hour, an hour at the most.
Now the players requirements have grown a lot, developers such as DrPinkCake have raised the bar quality and for the main VN updates are very big.
And the visual quality in them is not inferior to AAA games. Of course, Eve delayed this update a lot, despite the fact that it will be very large. Only half of the game, Ian's part is the size of Episode 5. I think by her standards the development speed of such an episode should not exceed 5 months, that is, it should have been released a month ago, but 6 months have already passed since the last update and I think we will wait until at least the end of November under the best scenario. I think she has serious problems with inspiration and management, especially after burnout. But now that she's hired an outsourcer, hopefully things are going better.
DPC has indeed raised the bar but unfortunately noone has followed, they've just adapted the dev cycle scheduele without uping their game. He's the only dev I know of that can justify a 6-8 month dev cycle and back it up contentwise. It's a sad state of affairs nowdays.

Very generous of you to count the pointless "rework" release that didn't improve anything from 6 months ago as a real release. As far as I'm concerned this game havn't had an update since Nov -21..

That being said EK is far from any of the worst devs out there, when she releases something it's usually worth playing, which is not true for at least 90% of the devs we see here..
 

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So on October 25th, 2023...

Of course by then chapter 10 will be out, probably chapter 11 as well, maybe chapter 12 even? No point speculating though (there's already enough of that in this thread).
Yes. Eva can hopefully release Chapter 11 in those 9 months between Chapter 10 is released in January of 2023.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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DPC has indeed raised the bar but unfortunately noone has followed, they've just adapted the dev cycle scheduele without uping their game. He's the only dev I know of that can justify a 6-8 month dev cycle and back it up contentwise. It's a sad state of affairs nowdays.

Very generous of you to count the pointless "rework" release that didn't improve anything from 6 months ago as a real release. As far as I'm concerned this game havn't had an update since Nov -21..

That being said EK is far from any of the worst devs out there, when she releases something it's usually worth playing, which is not true for at least 90% of the devs we see here..
About the unnecessary "remaster" update, this is not entirely true. She did this because she always listens to the opinion of her audience. Whether it's good or bad depends on the situation, but I think that it's not good to always follow the lead of the audience. It is quite possible that her audience in the discord gave recommendations for correcting some points in the plot, at the same time she improved the visuals. But I will not consider this update empty. And I, like you, are unhappy that Episode 10 dragged on for so long, but I'm not the kind of audience that will shame Eva
 

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Honestly, the only character I am even remotely interested in is Cindy. Everything else is just a cliche copy paste from other games of the genre. Whole Lena story is 99% copy of the previous game of the dev.
 

balvenie1401

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About the unnecessary "remaster" update, this is not entirely true. She did this because she always listens to the opinion of her audience. Whether it's good or bad depends on the situation, but I think that it's not good to always follow the lead of the audience. It is quite possible that her audience in the discord gave recommendations for correcting some points in the plot, at the same time she improved the visuals. But I will not consider this update empty. And I, like you, are unhappy that Episode 10 dragged on for so long, but I'm not the kind of audience that will shame Eva
I would argue that the visuals weren't improved, rather the opposite but that's obv very subjective..
 
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