Samuel Hidayat

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I give you that, the silhouette is indeed quite similar to her. But then the words "<...> that some of you might already be familiar with <...>" wouldn't make sense, because Gillian should be known by all players, unless they CTRL through the whole game or at least Ian's Chapters. And I don't think Eva is that disbelieving of us fellow players...
It's either Gillian or Nat. The former makes more sense imo for Ian's closure.
 

BlackIsBetter

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Hi everyone,

Chapter 10 is coming along and these days I'm mainly focused on writing. I'm making progress on Lena's side of the story and, content wise, this chapter is already as long as chapter 9, and will be even longer than chapter 7, which so far has been the longest with +22.000 lines of code.

I can't assure if the length of a single play-through will be longer though, since a lot of the content is mutually exclusive, but there will be a lot to discover for those that go through the game several times, trying different options. And that's the main reason writing this chapter is taking so long: every single scene is layered and plays out in a variety of ways, so the gaming experience will change quite a lot depending on your choices. Sadly for me, that means there's no single scene I can write in a straightforward manner, which is considerably taxing to my brain. How easy writing a normal book feels in comparison... but that's the nature of this work and I wouldn't have it any other way. Hopefully I can manage to finish most of the writing this month and move to the final release soon; it's about time.

In the meanwhile, here's a teaser for a new character that will appear in this chapter and that some of you might already be familiar with...


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Aw man... I come here once a month and I still can't tell how much of a progress has been made...

What are the projections for the Update to come out? December? Or is it the next year?
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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I mean, of course it's "coming along". I'd assume that the developer is working on the game without them saying this, right? Saying that is redundant.
I think it means that the work is coming to an end. As Eva said, she is thinking of finishing the writing by the end of October and moving on to the final part. This is testing and polishing, so I expect the release before the end of November. Usually alphas came out at the end of the month, on the 22nd-25th. Maybe.
 

JohnnyKiss

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Aw man... I come here once a month and I still can't tell how much of a progress has been made...

What are the projections for the Update to come out? December? Or is it the next year?
With the current pace it seems very likely we get it at the end of December.
 

JohnnyKiss

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Real talk now folks: has anyone ever thought of the possibility that these "status reports" are just stalling tactics to keep getting money and the game is already a finished topic for the developer?
I doubt it. I think it's far more likely that the dev is simply struggling with which direction the story will take. She seems to be avoiding the same situations from her previous game which might also be what complicates the whole situation, besides the whole "Steam Guidelines" that limit what she can and cannot do. (which is why there is no Incest planned like in GGGB).
 

BlackIsBetter

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I think it means that the work is coming to an end. As Eva said, she is thinking of finishing the writing by the end of October and moving on to the final part. This is testing and polishing, so I expect the release before the end of November. Usually alphas came out at the end of the month, on the 22nd-25th. Maybe.
So in a month and a half? I wouldn't call that "coming to an end" but alright. How long would that be since Chapter 9 was out? o_O
 

GifMeMore1987

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Eva, Iris or Nat..................
Natasha makes the most sense IMO, she's the least influenced by the choices the player makes in GGGB. With Eva and Iris EvaKiss would give a "canon" version of the character if they appeared. Yes, she did that with Jessica, but she also made the meta joke about it when Ian is tripping on mushrooms (very good scene, by the way). Nat would also bring the experience of a healthy open relationship into ORS, which could give the MC's some ideas...
No, seriously, how long? I don't believe any developer would take a whole year just for a single update.
Chapter 9 remastered came out in april this year.
 

lipe2410

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No, seriously, how long? I don't believe any developer would take a whole year just for a single update.
It's a year between ch. 9 and 10, but she didn't spend all this time on ch. 10. After ch. 9 she took a break and then made a remaster of the first 9 chapters. Only after that she srtated ch. 10 work
 

BlackIsBetter

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Natasha makes the most sense IMO, she's the least influenced by the choices the player makes in GGGB. With Eva and Iris EvaKiss would give a "canon" version of the character if they appeared. Yes, she did that with Jessica, but she also made the meta joke about it when Ian is tripping on mushrooms (very good scene, by the way). Nat would also bring the experience of a healthy open relationship into ORS, which could give the MC's some ideas...

Chapter 9 remastered came out in april this year.
So that makes it 6 months for an update (so far)? 7 if we assume a release in November? I guess I'll go in a hybernation for another month like I usually do XD
 

_Zebra_

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How many lines of code did chapter 9 have? So, uhm, what's left is the difference in length between Chapter 9 and Chapter 7, and then some more.

I'm gonna be honest, this doesn't sound like a November release either. If I had to take a guess, I'd say December maybe. Then again, I don't know the difference between Chapter 7 and 9, so maybe it's not that much?
Ch 5 which was used to describe Ian side of the story, in early July, had 12 250 (I will round the number up a bit)
Ch 7 had 23 650
Ch 9
had 21 677
This is just an opinion, but i think that Ch10 will have around 24 000 - 25 000 lines in total. However, you can't use this number to calculate the release window. Ian side of the story took another 2 months to be finished (after the July announcement) and unless the chapter is really unbalanced, the total length didn't grew; it's still ~12k. Another ~12k for Lena and that's about it.

Tbf, anything less then 3 updates worth of content should be considered a blatant failure since ch. 10 had a dev cycle of over a year, that's IF it gets released at the end of Nov.. Given it's taken 3-4 times as long as a normal chapter it SHOULD be huge (or frankly "normal size" for that amount of time)..
If you expect "3 updates worth of content", you will be disappointed. It's quite clear from all the updates, that the chapter won't be any different in size, compared with the last 3 updates.
"I can't assure if the length of a single play-through will be longer though, since a lot of the content is mutually exclusive"

Considering that after the remaster, all the saves are gone, if you didn't spent time to remake them, you might actually end up with a shorter :( playthrough in this update.

hopefully that holds to be true, the remaster was said to change a LOT about the game but look at how that turned out... I'll still keep my expectations low regarding the amount of content we'll get but no doubt the quality and writing will be top notch as always.
We will see. I want to find out what this really means: "every single scene is layered and plays out in a variety of ways" and "the hardest one to write thus far, for several reasons, one of them being it's mechanical complexity". After the alpha is out, I will draw my own conclusions about the complexity of chapter 10 (compared with the others). Until then, I will expect an update that is slightly bigger than the average, that will be released around Christmas. Maybe end of November, if the writing is finished in the next 3 weeks.
 

Rickster82

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The problem, of course, is the height of the fall. The longer the update lasts, the higher the expectations of the players. But experience shows that it is usually a proverbial shot backwards.
I would appreciate more Ian content. More interactions and sex with the ladies. Maybe also a little teaser of what will happen between him and Ivy in the future.
 
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