VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

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Da¥e

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slider said:
I stopped playing this game when I found out it was not possible for Ian and Lena to be in a relationship if she is having an affair with Jeremy.

It bothered me a lot because the same didn't happen when Lena cheats with ANY other guy and because Jeremy+Lena actually opened up loads of interesting opportunities that I wanted to explore.

Has the remaster or the new updates solved this issue? Can we see Lena and Ian together while she fucks Jeremy and other guys?
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No, and it won't happen. I guess it would complicate the writing too much.
 
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I meant what Lena speaks as her own mind regarding Robert, before the player has a chance to make choice for her and override her default preference. Or default distaste, in this case.
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I understood it as Lena being wary of Robert because he was hitting on her and she wasn't ready for a new relationship. When she met Ian this changed ( or else this would be a pretty boring game :)). As she was interested in Ian she took her time with him and didn't just fuck him on their first date. And that is different with Robert. She doesn't care about him.

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Given it's a job she severely dislikes and which exhausts her, that's arguable. Double so when it's shitstain of a boss she can't normally stand. She might be quite better off having this time free to rest and let her focus on other activities. In fact, she says as much if you don't have her fuck Robert and she's fired early.
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I didn't get her dislike being that severe. Also I think you are mixing that up, she says the 'more free time' thing when she keeps her job (only halftime). If she gets fired she is worried. Don't forget she'll lose her other job soon too.

ffive said:
Yet interestingly enough as soon as they break up Mike starts to reach out and contacts Lena on his own, asking if maybe she'd still like to hook up, something he doesn't do before. Lena comments on it, that "maybe he didn't give up on her". He may be chill about it on the surface, but he's still a guy and he wants to stroke his ego by having a hot girl jump on his dick whenever he requests it. (instead of facing the music she'd rather do it with someone else)

From a more cynical angle, the number of guys in the game is limited, and Lena/Ian relationship requires some guys for Lena to fuck behind Ian's back if that's the player's preference, so the guy she's already fucked and potentially already cheated on Ian with, isn't really going to suddenly turn all nice and meek about it, no longer providing any temptation.
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True, I just think his chillness is not just on the surface. He still has his girlfriend to fall back after all :cool:. Lena said about Axel that he was intense. I just don't get that from Mike. Also we don't need another Axel because we still have Axel himself. Your comparisons are true for Ian, too.

For me it looks like Mike is kind of a dark side to Ian. There are 3 scenes in chapter 10 optionally with Ian or Mike, all 3 times Lena is cheating on Ian with Mike: the scene where Lena gets pinned down by Ian/Mike, the blowjob in the club and the photoshoot. So I agree about Mike becoming Lena's go to guy for what I think we can call Lena's cheating path.
 
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dontcarewhateverno

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slider said:
Bummer. I didn't expect that gratuitous "fuck you" from Eva Kiss. Ian being into watching Jeremy fuck other girls and following Lena's salkfap was a missleading option from the get-go.
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I don't think it was misleading. I think it was a planned route from the get-go. Then that Eva second-guessed herself and feared how that and some other content would go over with a larger mainstream crowd + others. Hence the watering down of that and also other key content in the remaster that could hurt the game's reach and her future appeal as a dev to a more mainstream audience (+ maybe for personal reasons, too). Possibly coupled with a need to trim down future path turns that could involve too much work (though ret-conning added more work so I lean towards the former being more relevant than the latter).

All just conjecture, but an educated guess based on past content (and vestigial coding labels), reach potential and imagining one's self in her shoes. Not that I agree with such a reroute. But I can imagine why.

Who knows though. Maybe it'll be rerouted into a specific path, more gated off from the main ones and harder to reach as to not effect a more mainstream-appeal play-through. There is a new route label introduced in the chapter 10 code for similar such content, after all.
 
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slider said:
Bummer. I didn't expect that gratuitous "fuck you" from Eva Kiss. Ian being into watching Jeremy fuck other girls and following Lena's salkfap was a missleading option from the get-go.
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Cheer up, we are only halfway into the game and they only commited recently, there is plenty of opportunity in the future for that stuff.
Either way, Jeremy fucking some girls that they probably already both fucked and they arent serious about them is quite different then Jeremy fucking his "gf", remember that even Jeremy declines Lena advances if Ian says that he is serious about her(you can persuade, but that the power of protagonist and he is pretty guilty afterwards), Jeremy is a nice bro, he is a bit simple but not stupid, when he ask you about Lena and if you say "its just for fun and not serious" he is pretty happy to fuck her, i bet there will be some threesome with Lena on "open" relationship route.
Probably after Emma threesome since it was already foreshadowed, i bet there would be some Louise action in the future if they are still together and you share girls, cant wait for that one for sure.
 
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Lemix said:
Cheer up, we are only halfway into the game and they only commited recently, there is plenty of opportunity in the future for that stuff.
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I think there's a large chance for Ian-Lena to break up and get back together in the end in a good majority of routes. Not that a true pure route will be impossible but a lot of stories about the "red thread" or "red string" or whatever have the fated lovers break up or leave each other and then find their way back. Even in the routes where Ian and Lena ruin their relationship (like through the Robert fight) and break up, there's almost definitely going to be an opportunity towards the end to "realize" they were the perfect match the whole time. Obviously this would turn entirely on player choice.

As to how that applies here, I could totally see a route where both Ian and Lena rush into a relationship but they both (or one) still fuck around (with Jeremy/Mike or Cindy/Alison for example) and break up. I think those are going to be slow burns though to let the relationship develop and then crash and burn. The way GGGB did it, where Ash was like "whatever, I'll keep cheating" and then did that with pretty much zero consequences was not great and seems different from what Eva wants to do.
 
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JohnJamesMan said:
I think there's a large chance for Ian-Lena to break up and get back together in the end in a good majority of routes. Not that a true pure route will be impossible but a lot of stories about the "red thread" or "red string" or whatever have the fated lovers break up or leave each other and then find their way back. Even in the routes where Ian and Lena ruin their relationship (like through the Robert fight) and break up, there's almost definitely going to be an opportunity towards the end to "realize" they were the perfect match the whole time. Obviously this would turn entirely on player choice.

As to how that applies here, I could totally see a route where both Ian and Lena rush into a relationship but they both (or one) still fuck around (with Jeremy/Mike or Cindy/Alison for example) and break up. I think those are going to be slow burns though to let the relationship develop and then crash and burn. The way GGGB did it, where Ash was like "whatever, I'll keep cheating" and then did that with pretty much zero consequences was not great and seems different from what Eva wants to do.
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I dont think "red sting" is about Ian and Lena loving each other romantically, its about all of the characters in game that keep stumbling into each others lives and forming connections in general, i personally dislike Ian/lena romance/hookup path so "fated together" does not apply to me and i'm sure i'm not the only one.
Doesnt it already happens anyway? Cant you "break up" like twice already, because of Holly and Robert at different times in the story.
So it would probably happen again, maybe because of Cherry for example, since i'm pretty sure you can still fuck around with her if you just say to her "its not serious with me and Lena", then there is Axel thingy.
I liked "no consiquences" cheating, but it made more sense in GGGB because characters you fuck could be completly from different circles while ORS all know each others so its harder to "hide" it.
 
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I fucking love this game.

I have played all the variables. The best route for me is the discret cheating route between Ian (sex with Minerva, Emma and Cindy. Flirting with Ivy and Jessica) and Lena (sex with Jeremy, Mike and Axel. Flirting with Stan and Seymour).

One thing I am dying to see again is Jessica's mouthpussy (Ivy with Ian too):

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Bishop Robert said:
Is there anything of the sort the other way around?
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Ian "cuckqueaning" Lena to her face, you mean? Not really. There's hints of cuckquean stuff for other characters in the Lena-Louise-Jeremy scene I believe, if you select the right options.
 
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