SerHawkes

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'Twas a joke, my dude. No one asked for you to apologize.

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The only things I take seriously are child support payments to various waifus, my undying rage at the lack of Ivy-Ian content, and the likelyhood of dealing with special kinds of idiots daily, not just here but else on the webs.
 

JaszMan

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the point is that vanilla/pure love route is never the focus of eva you can also play a pure vanilla route in good girl gone bad but than you miss most content because most content was corruption based it will be probably the same with our red string especially at end game even if there will be pure love route the focus will probably be corruption because thats were evas writting is best at and ofc all the drama and intrigues and so on..... you have way more interesting writting possibilities than in a pure love route and she is mostly a corruption dev.
On the Corruption side of things, it would be devious to Re-direct Louse's off the straight and narrow, In Her case changing what she wants to do despite having a Masters. So I guess in a way something similar in GGGB where Ash goes 100% focused on her future, to depending on choices is put on a path that is much more cavalier, So to see Louise have a sudden career change due to Ivy or Lena's influence,perhaps money trouble she also joins stalkfap. I do not know if making Holly very outgoing is considered corruption,but that is also cool to watch. It would have been interesting if Holly was one of the protagonists. She is so cute, hehe. Loving the story despite balancing multiple MC's
 

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I'd disagree with the whole 'Ivy is the Evil Queen' bullshit.

She isn't this "EVIL" person that most of the narrow, small minded simpletons try to make her out to be. Though the comparison between her and Jessica is actually spot on in some forms.

With Ivy: She's freespirited, enjoys casual sex, not looking for a relationship and may seem against it though in all likely hood her reasoning is probably more solely on the fact that she simply had a bad experience with a relationship and doesn't want to be hurt by it, or truly does simply believe that casual sex is all well and good. Or it is possible that she simply hasn't found the right partner in her that loves her for her and supports her/challenges her in a way that isn't in the money sense but more so her life. And while there are some that see her "influence" on Holly as "EVIL, MANIPULATING, Etc.", I would argue it's more so challenge Holly to break out of her shell and open up with her life. Try things that she normally wouldn't do. To which, is entirely OPTIONAL and we, as Lena, have the option to either encourage it or temper it abit.

With Jessica-Ivy: Their more similar in terms of their styles, atleast from the start. Both are/were sexually inclined, using sex to get their way/pay. But depending on which version of Jess there is, thats where the similarity really ends.
I believe Ivy to be much worse than that based on her numerous highly suspicious actions. She is the embodiment of corruption. She has a strong tendency to stab people in the back. Jessica was never like that. She has a highly Domme personality. Jessica did not. Jessica was just a slut. She gets off on hurting people in a sadistic way. Jessica was never like that. Jessica on her worst day is still less corrupt than Ivy on her best day.

Ivy is about on par with Arthur in terms of level of corruption. She is that bad. Arthur used to like to drug people. Ivy likes to drug people. With Jessica you could be like, "Hey let's not do drugs." Do you think Lena avoiding drugs is going to get Ivy to quit? No way! I believe she has a side hustle as a drug dealer. She may also even have a side hustle as a pimp. I am not completely sure she did not pimp Holly to Mark. Jessica never went around trying to fuck up other people's relationships. Ivy likes to try to fuck things up between Lena & Ian. She likes to fuck things up between Louise and Jeremy.

She keeps seeing Axel behind Lena's back. I bet you Ivy had a hand in setting up Cherry and Axel which caused Lena great distress. When Ian is sleeping with Lena, but then bangs Holly and chooses Holly over Lena... Ivy's reaction to this is to mock Lena for not being a good enough fuck. Even her name on stalkfap is "VenomIvy" she is venomous... She is a snake! I bet you she has fucked Axel dozens of times even while Lena was dating him. Her best friend's boyfriend. She wasn't going over to Axel's house for tea and cookies. She was after some dick.

She loves being cruel too... With Minverva for example. She mocks her for trying to stay in shape at 40 being some old hag. She bullies the shit out of Louise too, and sucks her man's dick right in front of her. Even other little things Ivy's always a snake... The grappling match Ian has with Ivy is a good representation of Ivy as a whole. You get her right where you want her... Show her any mercy and she strikes like a viper sensing your weakness... She sniffs out any weakness and attacks it. It's like blood in the water and she is a shark.
 

ffive

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She keeps seeing Axel behind Lena's back.
She's a model, Axel is an established photographer with lot of pull in the industry. She isn't going to sabotage her professional career by not doing any work with him because two of her friends broke up.

Arthur used to like to drug people. Ivy likes to drug people.
Arthur used to drug and rape people. Ivy asks Lena whether she wants some party drugs once and doesn't try again if you tell her no. Totally the same thing, yes. /s
 

SerHawkes

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Umm... what? When does that happen?
It happens if you go to the gym, before the party I believe, with Ivy's relationship with Ian over 5 and being into Jujitsu.

But to say that that interaction between them is 'Ivy as a whole' is a honest joke and a stretch. Then again, people will see what they want to see and interpert it in their own little narratives.
 
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ffive

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I have like 200 saves, tried to play as much as possible routes and still I feel like I haven't seen half of the game. :unsure:
It's kinda easy to miss because it needs fairly high relationship with Ivy in order to trigger. Having Ian admit to Axel he's seeing Lena is one way to get there, though Ian also needs pretty high charisma at that point to make a joke about it that Ivy will appreciate.
 

John Doe Jr.

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how corrupt can the characters become?. I tend to favor the female protagonist over Male MC's but still, can the characters truly go from on the straight and narrow to criminal slash slut?
Currently? Not very corrupt. You can have Lena become a slut-ish and Cindy can cheat on her bf but that's about as far as it goes. There's possibility we might get more. Lena and Holly getting gangbanged would be nice
 
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The "easy" way is to get close to Lena and be buddy with her. OR, in my way, save edit the relation to 7 and have at it.
It's kinda easy to miss because it needs fairly high relationship with Ivy in order to trigger. Having Ian admit to Axel he's seeing Lena is one way to get there, though Ian also needs pretty high charisma at that point to make a joke about it that Ivy will appreciate.

Nah, I had a save fitting description, only I hadn't choose gym on that. I tried it and must say what she pulled very fitting for Ivy. No surprises there. :KEK:
 
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JaszMan

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He can't. For now.
"sad face" I understand,but I hate to either hurt Lena or Holly, Plus I actually had Lena cheat on Ian with Louise and and Lena did not seem to have serious qualms about it, comforting her recent breakup was Lena rational. I did not want Lena to really cheat on Ian but I wanted to see what Lena's thoughts going to be the following morning. I had Ian Kiss Holly and even go all the way,but after owing up to his reckless choice he breaks not only Lena's heart but breaks Holly's Friendship with Lena. Now Ian and Holly are almost sympatico,yet I can see Ian and Lena has perfect match too. I was wondering if Lena after finding out about Holly's serious crush on Ian actually tries to help her teaching Holly to be more confident and perhaps a little more Ivy like too "evil smirk", in order to gain Ian's attention, until there is a Love Triangle between Lena,Holly and Ian.
 

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"sad face" I understand,but I hate to either hurt Lena or Holly, Plus I actually had Lena cheat on Ian with Louise and and Lena did not seem to have serious qualms about it, comforting her recent breakup was Lena rational. I did not want Lena to really cheat on Ian but I wanted to see what Lena's thoughts going to be the following morning. I had Ian Kiss Holly and even go all the way,but after owing up to his reckless choice he breaks not only Lena's heart but breaks Holly's Friendship with Lena. Now Ian and Holly are almost sympatico,yet I can see Ian and Lena has perfect match too. I was wondering if Lena after finding out about Holly's serious crush on Ian actually tries to help her teaching Holly to be more confident and perhaps a little more Ivy like too "evil smirk", in order to gain Ian's attention, until there is a Love Triangle between Lena,Holly and Ian.
For now the better way seems make Ian and Holly just kiss (Lena gets mad but forgive Ian later) and Lena also be atracted to Holly and protect her from Ivy's influence.
 
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