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Wasn't there talk of some self-improvement or personal growth to make it more believable? I could of sworn it mentioned here. Stan, for me, is very much an ancillary character, but I always enjoy a story with character development.
Yes, Lena has to work a bit on Stan's social skills in the first place before things even take off and, even then, she's merely not turning him down outright but giving him a chance to spend some time together as friends, in order to actually get to know each other. Stan isn't hooking up with anything but his palm yet.
 

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Yes, Lena has to work a bit on Stan's social skills in the first place before things even take off and, even then, she's merely not turning him down outright but giving him a chance to spend some time together as friends, in order to actually get to know each other. Stan isn't hooking up with anything but his palm yet.
Thanks for expanding upon that. Like I said, Stan is very much on the periphery. I do have to say, I am a bit miffed that Eva took the time to rewrite Stan, but didn't introduce lesbian content earlier. It is a bit barren if you reject all the males' attention.
 
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Thanks for clarifying. Like I said, Stan is very much on the periphery. I do have to say, I am a bit miffed that Eva took the time to rewrite Stan, but didn't introduce lesbian content earlier. It is a bit barren if you reject all the males' attention.
Yes, but the lesbian content is worth the wait because Holly is worth everything.
 
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Thanks for clarifying. Like I said, Stan is very much on the periphery. I do have to say, I am a bit miffed that Eva took the time to rewrite Stan, but didn't introduce lesbian content earlier. It is a bit barren if you reject all the males' attention.
Hmm there's currently Louise, Holly and Ivy for lesbian Lena, right? Granted it's not that many options but i think it's quite okay overall. I'd say Emma is also a likely option and probably pretty soon, too.
 

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Hmm there's currently Louise, Holly and Ivy for lesbian Lena, right? Granted it's not that many options but i think it's quite okay overall. I'd say Emma is also a likely option and probably pretty soon, too.
You are correct, but compare that to Ian if you are on a sole lesbian Lena route. Ian potentially has 5 or more girls before you get to Holly and/or Ivy. Sure, you have Louise, but it's a dysfunctional one-sided relationship. I am just saying it would be nice to have an early girl to rack up stats like a straight or bi Lena.
 
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The new walkthrough made me aware of the Lena cheating on Ian with Mike. I also know from my own playthroughs of the Lena cheating on Ian with Axel route. Basically the scenes rarely change but dialogue will. I wonder if there are other examples of two routes colliding and changing the dialogue, possibly also setting up future routes. Another example I can think of is Lena thinking about how she dominated Louise while riding Ian's poor face.
 

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I'm not comfortable with the "good girl" Stan path because it's too much of an incel fantasy: the incel who hooks up with an attractive woman simply because he's a dogged nice guy.
Even Holly is out of his league :4Head:

You are correct, but compare that to Ian if you are on a sole lesbian Lena route. Ian potentially has 5 or more girls before you get to Holly and/or Ivy. Sure, you have Louise, but it's a dysfunctional one-sided relationship. I am just saying it would be nice to have an early girl to rack up stats like a straight or bi Lena.
The solution is to have male LI for Ian :Kappa:
 

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How to advance stan story after both stan and lena masturbate
You mean the one where Stan was video taping Lena? I think after that, Stan confesses he loves Lena. Lena deflects his confession. And that's it for now.

Looks like there might be more in the future though.
 

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Well then you clearly have not read their posts. All the Stan haters are 6'4" tall, built of solid muscle, have 12" dicks, and spend their free time making paper mache with supermodels using $100 bills and semen. I mean, none of them would be exaggerating... right?
I think that people who dislike Stan dislike him because he is a cuck and they aren't into being cucks. But yeah, I guess being overweight, socially inept loser would also be off-putting to people.
 
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You mean the one where Stan was video taping Lena? I think after that, Stan confesses he loves Lena. Lena deflects his confession. And that's it for now.

Looks like there might be more in the future though.
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So stan just confess to luna that all?
 

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People dislike Stan because he used to be a stereotypical creepy incel with little background and screentime. Eva tried to fix this with the Remastered, but it only drew major ire from people who already dislike Stan in the first place. It doesn't matter if he's more sympathetic now; they just don't like the concept of Stan.

I don't think it's because he's a cuck since you can play Ian as one. mommysboiii would definitely agree.
I was being sarcastic of course; because some people, that will not be named, really do not like when you point out how awful of a person Stan is and will cope by insulting the people who dislike this obviously made to be disliked character.
 

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Stan discussion.

Stan wasn't fully thought out from the get-go. He is the awkward room-mate and what could one do with this set-up? Here my observations of the possible routes the game currently provides:

- Insulting him nets points with Louise and its reminiscent of Ashley's dad. He is probably commiting suicide or kicking them out. It's mildly entertaining, but nothing compelling.

- Ignoring him/lecturing after he was caught masturbating continues to let the relationship be a loose one, without any progress. He's just there.

- Acting as his model and encouraging his simpness is currently the only remotely interesing route. It gives a power dynamic that differs from cuck Ian /whatever Robert is supposed to be. There is weirdly working payment-reward system between two socially different people. Stan fapping to Lena in chapter 10 was his only good scene. Cynically it seems the most plausible relationship that Stan could get with Lena, considering that he does 0% shit to improve himself and is way out of her league. His incel talk ruins that premise, because he isn't content with that and demands more without there being a tangible reason. I'd much rather have him stay as the simp and explorable doormat to continue paying and filming Lena while occasionally getting a pity wank.

- Mixed with the simp route is the potential love route and I don't see it. Stan and Lena have zero chemistry, she isn't liking him in a motherly pitifull manner, he doesn't have intriguing aspects of his character like being an artist or witty or anything that would justify why Lena would hang out and be attracted to him. There is no scene in the 10 chapters in which Lena enjoys his company, its always an awkward pepp-up talk and we have more than enough of that with Holly. His incel outburst comes out of nowhere and isn't well written. It's a caricature of incel behaviour, Stan goes from meek subdued nice guy desperatley asking for a chance to misantropic dramaqueen demanding pussy.


I kind of get the attention for Stan in that regard that he differs from the fuckboys Robert/Mike/Axel, but he shares the common issue with Lena's love interest that they are, well, not love interest but fuckbuddies to keep her entertained. In that regard, all he is currently offering is a stalkfap simp to milk out and it's not exactly outstanding (and potentially not unique, considering that Ian and even Mike are up for it).

Ultimately, Eva fails to convey us this: If Lena can have fuckbuddies like Ian, Robert, Mike and Axel and potentially develop a closer relationship with them, why would she ever go for Stan? What are his unique advantages that ther other guys have not?
 

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Stan discussion.

Stan wasn't fully thought out from the get-go. He is the awkward room-mate and what could one do with this set-up? Here my observations of the possible routes the game currently provides:

- Insulting him nets points with Louise and its reminiscent of Ashley's dad. He is probably commiting suicide or kicking them out. It's mildly entertaining, but nothing compelling.

- Ignoring him/lecturing after he was caught masturbating continues to let the relationship be a loose one, without any progress. He's just there.

- Acting as his model and encouraging his simpness is currently the only remotely interesing route. It gives a power dynamic that differs from cuck Ian /whatever Robert is supposed to be. There is weirdly working payment-reward system between two socially different people. Stan fapping to Lena in chapter 10 was his only good scene. Cynically it seems the most plausible relationship that Stan could get with Lena, considering that he does 0% shit to improve himself and is way out of her league. His incel talk ruins that premise, because he isn't content with that and demands more without there being a tangible reason. I'd much rather have him stay as the simp and explorable doormat to continue paying and filming Lena while occasionally getting a pity wank.

- Mixed with the simp route is the potential love route and I don't see it. Stan and Lena have zero chemistry, she isn't liking him in a motherly pitifull manner, he doesn't have intriguing aspects of his character like being an artist or witty or anything that would justify why Lena would hang out and be attracted to him. There is no scene in the 10 chapters in which Lena enjoys his company, its always an awkward pepp-up talk and we have more than enough of that with Holly. His incel outburst comes out of nowhere and isn't well written. It's a caricature of incel behaviour, Stan goes from meek subdued nice guy desperatley asking for a chance to misantropic dramaqueen demanding pussy.


I kind of get the attention for Stan in that regard that he differs from the fuckboys Robert/Mike/Axel, but he shares the common issue with Lena's love interest that they are, well, not love interest but fuckbuddies to keep her entertained. In that regard, all he is currently offering is a stalkfap simp to milk out and it's not exactly outstanding (and potentially not unique, considering that Ian and even Mike are up for it).

Ultimately, Eva fails to convey us this: If Lena can have fuckbuddies like Ian, Robert, Mike and Axel and potentially develop a closer relationship with them, why would she ever go for Stan? What are his unique advantages that ther other guys have not?
I don't disagree with any of that. In terms of why Lena might make Stan a fuckbuddy, she might just enjoy being worshipped by him and having that kind of hold over him, even if she never really feels much genuine attraction for him. It's a bit like how you can play the relationship with Robert.
 

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His incel outburst comes out of nowhere and isn't well written. It's a caricature of incel behaviour, Stan goes from meek subdued nice guy desperatley asking for a chance to misantropic dramaqueen demanding pussy.
No, that's spot on. :whistle:
 
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