Doppelgang

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At least DarkCookie livestreams his drawing sessions from time to time. Now with the inconsistent "weekly" status reports, the endless excuses of sickness, wedding, funeral, writer blocks, or even just vacations, and the annoyingly long radio silent after making promises such as "I have to release it soon for my mental health", or "I can see the light at the end of tunnel", or “wait is almost over” kind of things. This game starts to give me a "Milfy City” vibe......
The “weekly” status reports should either be posted weekly or simply be renamed to “status report” whenever they do come out (it’s very rarely more than two weeks). I’ll give you that.

But the game’s been in production for more than three years, and I think Eva has taken a real vacation once—while still doing some work. She went to two weddings last year (and brought some of the work with her there as well!), and people are still butthurt about it. She admitted she had gotten less work done once this year because a close family friend had died. And yes, she struggled with writer’s block for a while, but with six years of writing GGGB and ORS, that will obviously happen at some point. Most of the time it seems like people on here expect porn game developers to be machines who just work non stop, and cut out all forms of social life to serve the people pirating their work.

The “promises” you refer to are obviously intentionally vague (and not written in the form of promises) because it’s probably extremely difficult to put a timeframe on the last part of the process. Things are being tested to check if something unexpected shows up. You obviously don’t know in advance how much time those unexpected things will take.

And concerning this episode: It will be about seven months between the release of the last Alpha and this. There’s 17 scenes in the new episode, and in that time we’ve also gotten the Prologue (3 scenes, I think?) and the very lengthy Minerva scene in the final version of the last episode. So we’re talking 20+ lewd scenes in those seven months. I can’t remember the exact number of scenes in the previous episodes, but I’m pretty sure this is at least on par with previous episodes, even though the writing for obvious reasons has gotten more and more complex.
 

fatpussy123

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The last update for ORS was in Febuary, 4 months ago, assuming the new chapter releases this month, which it should, then thats 4 months with 11 status reports. Dark Cookie on the other hand has been promising a 'tech update' for about a year now and the last content update for Summertime Saga was in October and since October there have been only 2 status reports for Summertime Saga. Anyone seriously saying the situations are comparable is just armchair dev'ing with no creative experience.
 

IDoAThing

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Last I remember, Eva had said that the last update was going to be the "heaviest update to date" as said in her update. On top of this the update took a total of 7 months and 3 weeks between both final releases of chapter 9 on April 24st and chapter 10 on December 21st. All of this to say, yes the updates do take quite a while to come around. Although in my experience, the quality of content we are seeing in Our Red String vs other games is quite well done. Also seen by the amount of posts under this thread for Our Red String. In summary, quit bitching about how long it takes for each update unless you would like worse content in shorter time.
 

Arata20

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Last I remember, Eva had said that the last update was going to be the "heaviest update to date" as said in her update. On top of this the update took a total of 7 months and 3 weeks between both final releases of chapter 9 on April 24st and chapter 10 on December 21st. All of this to say, yes the updates do take quite a while to come around. Although in my experience, the quality of content we are seeing in Our Red String vs other games is quite well done. Also seen by the amount of posts under this thread for Our Red String. In summary, quit bitching about how long it takes for each update unless you would like worse content in shorter time.
Be in game one mc... :WeSmart::unsure::cautious:
 

Existence X

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Maybe she will return to this copule after finnishing whole game.
So by then she adds again the choice.
The only consequence for that choice is to create false hope that Ed is going to get any content sometime soon, and make people bother for it.
 

kjj308

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At least DarkCookie livestreams his drawing sessions from time to time. Now with the inconsistent "weekly" status reports, the endless excuses of sickness, wedding, funeral, writer blocks, or even just vacations, and the annoyingly long radio silences and disappearances after making promises such as "I have to release it soon for my mental health", or "I can see the light at the end of tunnel", or “wait is almost over” kind of things. This game starts to give me a "Milfy City” vibe......
Don't like it? Don't follow it, don't download the update when it does get released. Think you can do better, then make your own game. I don't get the point in making accusations and whining about something that you're likely getting for free.
 

JessyAlbarn97

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I think people are undermining just how complex the story is in this game. So many different routes, that all need to connect. The more characters you add, the more quest lines, the more sex scenes, all of that adds up in the way this story is being told. Now split that between TWO seperate protags, that gets really complicated really quick. Constatnly have to check notes on previous chapters, going over what you have written, design the art, send it out to other artists for finishing, getting it back and going over it with a fine tooth comb, sending it back for last touches, I could go on lol. Eva truly puts so much love into the game. Yes it takes awhile to get updates out, but for good reason. And if they want to take a vacation, or go to a wedding from time to time, who cares. It's their life, and they are giving us great content in return. Don't be upset that they are just trying to not burn themselves out
 

JohnnyKiss

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I think people are undermining just how complex the story is in this game. So many different routes, that all need to connect.
I think people are overestimating the complexity of the game.

So far, the routes have all been pretty separate from one another and not intertwining that much. For example, Ian cheating with Cindy or not or not having any relationship with her has not been of any consequence considering all 3 variations play the same (give or take few sex scenes).

The same can be said for Lena and Ian's relationship. Regardless of their relationship status (commited, non-commited, no relationship), both of them are going to be at Ivy's party no matter what, hence not impacting the overall story.

Don't get me wrong, the game is far more complex than most but that complexity comes from the sheer amount of options you have and choices you can make rather than the overall complexity of the routes intertwinning with one another. And I don't think having 2 Protagonists complicates the story if you just think about them as 1 protagonist and 1 side-character.
 
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Eye-switcher

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The last update for ORS was in Febuary, 4 months ago, assuming the new chapter releases this month, which it should, then thats 4 months with 11 status reports. Dark Cookie on the other hand has been promising a 'tech update' for about a year now and the last content update for Summertime Saga was in October and since October there have been only 2 status reports for Summertime Saga. Anyone seriously saying the situations are comparable is just armchair dev'ing with no creative experience.
That was the god damn prologue, should you release 2 minutes updates then any creator could do that. Unprofessional, try dropping that kind of work in that time frame in any other kind of job and you would soon find yourself looking for a new one.
 

fatpussy123

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I think people are overestimating the complexity of the game.

So far, the routes have all been pretty separate from one another and not intertwining that much. For example, Ian cheating with Cindy or not or not having any relationship with her has not been of any consequence considering all 3 variations play the same (give or take few sex scenes).

The same can be said for Lena and Ian's relationship. Regardless of their relationship status (commited, non-commited, no relationship), both of them are going to be at Ivy's party no matter what, hence not impacting the overall story.

Don't get me wrong, the game is far more complex than most but that complexity comes from the sheer amount of options you have and choices you can make rather than the overall complexity of the routes intertwinning with one another. And I don't think having 2 Protagonists complicates the story if you just think about them as 1 protagonist and 1 side-character.
It's all subjective and based on what you consider complex. Yes the set pieces tend not to change throughout playthroughs, with the exception of Cindy's party, Alison's trip, and Holly's trip. This is most likely done to reduce workload and streamline information for the characters. For example Ian hears Cherrys side of the drama of he goes to the bar with her, but if doesn't that information still needs to be communicated to him, so there are other points in the story basically the same dialogue and choices come up, specifically when Cherry is hanging out with Ian and Perry. In universe I guess both friend groups are so strong and intertwined that no actions Ian or Lena take can break up the groups and thus their hangouts and parties always happen. Lena and Ivy's friendship for example can be brought down quite substantially, but Lena still shows up to her birthday regardless.

I think the complexity comes from the sheer amount of variables though. Take a look at the variable list for ORS and imagine how many variables the average game will have on here. The average game will be a male protagonist game which probably will have individual score points with let's say 5 girls. Each decision either raises said point, lowers it, or keeps it the same. Then once it is high enough the player can engage in their route. At the halfway point or towards the end the game will have a moment where it checks all relationships and if the player is cheating then the player face consequences, unless it's a harem game of course. ORS, just looking at Ian's parts will have much more to it. To court the women you need to build up their relationship stat, but also their hidden interest stats, ian_go_holly, ian_go_cindy, Ian_go_alison, etc. Then furthermore there are variables determining if Ian is in love with any of them, which tend to be mutually exclusive. Then in bed with the girls they have their satisfaction variable, which is minor but goes a long way compared to games just a little dialogue and then some gif. Along with the satisfaction there are also the preferences of the girls, Holly being willing to swallow unlike Cindy who wants Ian to perform cunnilingus before she blows him, or Alison and Minerva hating anal unlike Emma who is an anal enthusiast.

I think it's true that the different paths don't intersect too much, but I think that's because up until this point they have been mostly Ian and Lena sleeping around. Unless you're Alison or Axel, most characters aren't getting pressed over the MCs sleeping around while they're not tied down. Only in chapter 9 can Ian and Lena become a couple and already by chapter 10, Ian can cheat with Cindy, and Lena can cheat with Axel, Mike, Louise, Ivy, and Mark. And these are marked by the game with cheating variables, meaning it will come into play later. The other routes haven't even progressed to the official couple status yet. Holly and Lena discuss Holly having the talk with Ian and hopefully that will happen in chapter 11.
 

aykarin

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It would be really better if Eva gave us any new information on the status of the new update. I understand that she doesn't feel good saying that it still isn't finished but nevertheless it's better to know. If I knew, for example, that we need to wait at least one or two more weeks, I wouldn't lose my time checking her Patreon constantly. It's frustrating. Bad information is much better than no information at all.
 
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