0tt0von

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If anything, she is the opposite: She rather sacrifices her own health instead of asking others for help.

She met him 22 years ago and it may have ended on bad terms, so she could assume he wouldn't help her and/or she doesn't want to depend on his money, because she was appaled by what she saw.
you had me for a moment, nice use of sarcasm
 

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Is there any evidence to support that Lena may be Seymour's illegitimate daughter?

I am not saying it is impossible. However, if I had to say which girl has the highest probability of being his illegitimate daughter it is Emma.

The dynamic between those two is extremely similar to the dynamic between Arthur and Iris. It would be a very interesting plot twist. You could argue "Well, Emma is Hispanic". She could be 1/2 Hispanic. It is possible that her mother was a Maid / Secretary or something for Seymour and she got knocked up Arnold Schwarzenegger style.

It is possible that Emma knows and he does not, and him being her illegetimaite father on top of all of the other bullshit could be why she hates the man so much, turned to drugs and is his polar opposite and nemesis.
 
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ffive

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very weird. lena can't just work a job and go on with life without being coerced into sleazy, sexual exploitation from every guy around her. what is the message here?
You can have Lena live her life without doing any of this, and start to develop a successful career as a musician (while also helping elderly pair to maintain their family business) So the message here is your choices are on you.
 
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ian does not have anywhere near as hard a time. pissing off minerva and standing up to her gets you to fuck her, or gets you a chance at having your work directly put to seymour. standing up to her, suddenly ian is able to totally intelligently reverse her blackmail in a huge gotcha moment.
Ian needs relatively high intelligence stat to reverse the blackmail. Otherwise he winds up with Minerva cutting his pay and threatening to fire him if he steps out of the line again. While yes, he can potentially get another job with Seymour, there's already hints this will put him in position where he's going to accommodate Seymour's demands if he wants to have any success at that new job, or to see his writing career go anywhere.

rejecting holly doesn't result in her ignoring you coldly at work - on the contrary, she still helps you and hangs around you.

if you reject robert, he treats you differently at work and you get fired (if you suck his cock, he manages to help you keep your job).
Yes, Robert is a douchebag while Holly isn't. Pissing off Robert gets Ian physically assaulted, something Lena thankfully doesn't have to deal with.

it's more than just 'your choices are on you'. that's the most smooth-brained take i've ever heard on this forum, and that's saying something.
I don't think you're really in position to comment on anyone's brains with that initial hot take of yours.
 

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Is there any evidence to support that Lena may be Seymour's illegitimate daughter?

I am not saying it is impossible. However, if I had to say which girl has the highest probability of being his illegitimate daughter it is Emma.

The dynamic between those two is extremely similar to the dynamic between Arthur and Iris. It would be a very interesting plot twist. You could argue "Well, Emma is Hispanic". She could be 1/2 Hispanic. It is possible that her mother was a Maid / Secretary or something for Seymour and she got knocked up Arnold Schwarzenegger style.

It is possible that Emma knows and he does not, and him being her illegetimaite father on top of all of the other bullshit could be why she hates the man so much, turned to drugs and is his polar opposite and nemesis.
The evidence is:
-Lena's dad is not her real dad.
-Seymour has a weird fixation on Lena that occurs in every route regardless of relationship and we haven't seen any evidence of him acting like that with any other woman in the game.
-Lena and Seymour have distinct blue eyes.
-They haven't been able to have any physical sexual acts together. If the theory is true then it's because both Eva Kiss and Seymour don't want to make the player/Lena have an incestuous relationship until they know the truth.

That's all the evidence. Nothing concrete, but wouldn't be the most shocking thing ever.
 

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ian does not have anywhere near as hard a time. pissing off minerva and standing up to her gets you to fuck her, or gets you a chance at having your work directly put to seymour. standing up to her, suddenly ian is able to totally intelligently reverse her blackmail in a huge gotcha moment. rejecting holly doesn't result in her ignoring you coldly at work - on the contrary, she still helps you and hangs around you.

if you reject robert, he treats you differently at work and you get fired (if you suck his cock, he manages to help you keep your job).
if you reject seymour early, he uses his political clout and connections to stop galleries and photographers from working with you to coerce you into sexually humiliating yourself for him.

it's more than just 'your choices are on you'. that's the most smooth-brained take i've ever heard on this forum, and that's saying something.
Seymour targets the other galleries and photographers regardless. Doesn't matter if Lena rejects him or not. The only difference is that if she rejects him, she finds out he blacklisted her.
 

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-Seymour has a weird fixation on Lena that occurs in every route regardless of relationship and we haven't seen any evidence of him acting like that with any other woman in the game.
To be fair, this is hardly evidence of any biological relation between these two -- gods know there's plenty enough weirdos out there who get absolutely fixated on women they have zero relation with.

Seymour also gets fixated on Ian, although not to the point where he'd request Ian to put a vibrator in his butt. Yet.
 

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You need to stop hooking up with Alison and go for Emma at some point mid-game, or never hook up with Alison in the first place. For blonde Alison specifically you'll probably need the latter. So yes, going back all way to Chapter 1.
If Ian is a couple with Lena, he will break it off with Alison in chap 10. At least that was my run and she let Ian cum inside when she jumps him after the art gallery.
 

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To be fair, this is hardly evidence of any biological relation between these two -- gods know there's plenty enough weirdos out there who get absolutely fixated on women they have zero relation with.

Seymour also gets fixated on Ian, although not to the point where he'd request Ian to put a vibrator in his butt. Yet.
Yes it's not definitive. Merely informed speculation, there's no definitive evidence that Seymour is Lena's father until he says so or we see some DNA test/documents. But for a theory we only need to list the things that point in certain direction. The difference between "he is" and "he could be".
 
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But to still be chasing after him even if he's with Lena is some Axel level of apeshit crazy.
Ehh, i wouldn't say that. Do all men who hit on women who are already in relationship with someone apeshit crazy? By this logic you could say the same thing about Ian who hits on Cindy (or still wants something from Gillian)

*cue Stan ranting how he's a better option if only Lena gave him a chance*
 

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Ehh, i wouldn't say that. Do all men who hit on women who are already in relationship with someone apeshit crazy? By this logic you could say the same thing about Ian who hits on Cindy (or still wants something from Gillian)

*cue Stan ranting how he's a better option if only Lena gave him a chance*
I guess I was more referring to obsessively chasing after someone and not taking a hint that the person isn't in to you at all. Alison and Axel obssess over Ian and Lena respectively. And the obsession is there regardless of what paths the player chooses to follow.
 
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Ehh, i wouldn't say that. Do all men who hit on women who are already in relationship with someone apeshit crazy? By this logic you could say the same thing about Ian who hits on Cindy (or still wants something from Gillian)

*cue Stan ranting how he's a better option if only Lena gave him a chance*
Agreed. But I think misogynistic comments like these are bound to happen when you consider that this is a porn site, dominated by male audience and the most of the content focuses on sexualizing women even in games with FMC. I've read a lot of these that I would just ignore them.
 
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