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Alison. See, if you go just friends route, she WILL invite you over to her house REGARDLESS.

However, if you showed interest but broke things off, it won't happen. Thats the only means of not getting the offer to go.
oh that's not what I mean.

My 0-interest-towards-Alison Ian is getting the offer to go back to her house, it's just that that Ian would automatically reject the offer and the player doesn't have the agency to accept going to her place.

So in that universe, Alison didn't have the chance to come at Ian at her house, cuz Ian said no before that could happen.
 
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oh that's not what I mean.

My 0-interest-towards-Alison Ian is getting the offer to go back to her house, it's just that that Ian would automatically reject the offer and the player doesn't have the agency to accept going to her place.

So in that universe, Alison didn't have the chance to come at Ian at her house, cuz Ian said no before that could happen.
THe only check for accepting offer is if IAN and Alison's relationship point are >5 in Agenda
ian_alison>5

EDIT: IF you didn't go on trip and later if Ian rejects her than she wouldn't invite Ian cause after exiting club there is ian_alison_dating check which is set to false if Ian has serious/open relationship with Lena

BUT if you switch from Alison path to Emma path in Club than she invites you. whether Ian has open(not sure about serious) relationship with Lena or not
 
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Yeah me either. It's very clear she loves Ian. When he rejects she moves and fucks Jeremy and when Ian asks she basically tells him this. It's only when Jeremy tells her than Ian LIKES the pics he's been sending that Alison thinks she still has a shot. Hence her going for one more attempt at Ian. But, to my knowledge, she's never treated Ian wrong. She hasn't acted like Robert, Seymour, Axel, or Louise. I also get the feeling 100% that when/if we get the chance to tell Alison we want her to be ours in a relationship she wouldn't be fucking with any other guy unless Ian tells her he wants her to
Well, that's not true, she offers Ian sex regardless of whether or not he gets her pics.

To me, Alison's problem is not that she fucks Jeremy or even Billy, but her Yanderish and self-centered vibe. Her main topic of conversation is problems at work, with her ex, etc. and often she interrupts other characters' stories to talk about herself and even Ian, who likes her, doesn't really want to hear it. And she's constantly trying to ask him about Lena and sarcastically comment on what he has to say. Anyway, she's just not a very nice person, although the sex scenes with her aren't bad, I won't argue.

Anyway, her bimbofication in Ch. 11 seems like a rather odd decision. No, sure, a girl participating in a threesome and trying to induce sex on a guy in a relationship is prone to promiscuity, but that's over the top. This porn trope usually builds on the fact that the BBC inclines the girl to do it, but Jeremy clearly doesn't have that much influence over her that she would start radically changing her appearance for his sake.
 
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When Lena says she needs time to Stan, she mentions hanging out next week. Is it reading into it too much to say that there won't be stan content in full chapter 11? Since this prologue is part of ch 11?
I cant seem to be able to get choose "i need time" for stan, any chance of how to do it?
 

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mmh thats actually pretty interesting. if you think about it, we've had two branching events before, like Holly's book tour and Wade's birthday, but what we haven't had is a double branch for the same event. So both Ian and Lena can go to the Wildcats or to Perry's beach house. This will create 4 possible branches:
-Ian and Lena both go to the beach house, Cindy is at Wildcats along with Ivy. Maybe we see videos and pics of the events.
-Ian goes with Cindy to the Wildcats. On the surface it seems like it'd blow their cover, but Cindy could easily say Ian was at the last photoshoot and trusts him, also Wade and her are taking a break so she doesnt want him following her. Lena goes to the beach house.
-Lena goes to the Wildcats. Spicy Ivy content and spicy Axel content. Maybe thats where we see the fabled Axel Cindy sex scene, but from Lena's perspective. Ian goes to beach house
-Ian and Lena both go to the Wildcats, either because they are dating or Ian is dating Cindy. Content could include a threesome with Ivy and Lena, Cindy and Axel from Ians perspective
These various branching events make sense to me as you've stated them. One reason I also think they might work is, Perry says they could spend "one or two weeks" in August at the beach house (and these two weeks might easily correspond to Chapters 12 & 13) and then the beach house would end, the Wildcats shoot would end, and Eva would be able to bring all the branches back together for the end of August or start of September back in Baluart. Obviously relationships between characters would be different based on what had happened in August, but the default situation for everyone would be back to "normal" life and events (the MMA tourney, Ian's writing contest, Lena working in the cafe, etc.) at the same time.

One thing we do need to keep in mind, though, is that Ian and Lena won't be at the beach house/Wildcats shoot for the entire chapters. When Perry invites Ian, he says "Sure, I guess... I'm working, but I can take a few days off to go on vacation or something." And when Perry invites Lena, she says "I'd like to tag along too, if I can. Things are a bit chaotic right now and I'm not sure how free I'll be next month." So they will both be going back and forth to some extent between Baluart and the beach. This probably frees Eva a bit in terms of getting in additional content depending on play choices (e.g. Minerva for Ian, Mike or Robert for Lena) but also may mean Ian and Lena might be able to partake in both beach options, on different weeks. Which could be fascinating, as it expands opportunities further.
 
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I cant seem to be able to get choose "i need time" for stan, any chance of how to do it?
It requires stan_change variable to be positive.

... Yes, Stan has _change variable, much like Holly. Who knew :whistle:

Here's how it's documented:
Python:
default stan_change = 0 # (triggers if v10_stan_concert == True) 2 =Lena appeases Stan / 1=Lena sides with Stan against Louise/ 0= Stan acts like an incel

edit: also keep in mind, this is apparently a work in progress, and there isn't (yet) any actual points in the game where the value of this variable is changed from default. So right now the only way to activate that branch would be manually setting value from the Renpy console.

So change that 0 to a 1 or a 2. To open console you need to press "shift + O".
 
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These various branching events make sense to me as you've stated them. One reason I also think they might work is, Perry says they could spend "one or two weeks" in August at the beach house (and these two weeks might easily correspond to Chapters 12 & 13) and then the beach house would end, the Wildcats shoot would end, and Eva would be able to bring all the branches back together for the end of August or start of September back in Baluart. Obviously relationships between characters would be different based on what had happened in August, but the default situation for everyone would be back to "normal" life and events (the MMA tourney, Ian's writing contest, Lena working in the cafe, etc.) at the same time.

One thing we do need to keep in mind, though, is that Ian and Lena won't be at the beach house/Wildcats shoot for the entire chapters. When Perry invites Ian, he says "Sure, I guess... I'm working, but I can take a few days off to go on vacation or something." And when Perry invites Lena, she says "I'd like to tag along too, if I can. Things are a bit chaotic right now and I'm not sure how free I'll be next month." So they will both be going back and forth to some extent between Baluart and the beach. This probably frees Eva a bit in terms of getting in additional content depending on play choices (e.g. Minerva for Ian, Mike or Robert for Lena) but also may mean Ian and Lena might be able to partake in both beach options, on different weeks. Which could be fascinating, as it expands opportunities further.
Also if Lena is on Seymour's Path Seymour may forbid her to go out of Belaurt or some other scenario.
 
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Can anyone give me the 100% full gallery save please thanks
FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO UNLOCK GALLERY JUST DO THIS:
Start a new game and select Cheat path than the game will ask you if you want to enable the Gallery and voila. And if you want to lock the Gallery again do same thing and select disable Gallery.

It's available only in Ch11.
 

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Well, that's not true, she offers Ian sex regardless of whether or not he gets her pics.

To me, Alison's problem is not that she fucks Jeremy or even Billy, but her Yanderish and self-centered vibe. Her main topic of conversation is problems at work, with her ex, etc. and often she interrupts other characters' stories to talk about herself and even Ian, who likes her, doesn't really want to hear it. And she's constantly trying to ask him about Lena and sarcastically comment on what he has to say. Anyway, she's just not a very nice person, although the sex scenes with her aren't bad, I won't argue.

Anyway, her bimbofication in Ch. 11 seems like a rather odd decision. No, sure, a girl participating in a threesome and trying to induce sex on a guy in a relationship is prone to promiscuity, but that's over the top. This porn trope usually builds on the fact that the BBC inclines the girl to do it, but Jeremy clearly doesn't have that much influence over her that she would start radically changing her appearance for his sake.
She's definitely not a perfect person by any means but I don't think that equals to her being a piece of shit or going to murder Ian or something. The bimbofication is all about getting Ian interested. That's the main thing. If you're on her route you can push her in that direction or you can push her in the other direction. Alison, I think due to her repressed desire for Ian and her personal struggles atm, is very malleable. If Ian asks her to do something or she thinks there's even a slight chance of something getting Ian's attention she'll damn near do anything. I don't think that's the classic mindless bimbo slut but tbh even if it was 100% just the bimbo trope I'd still be into it. Just because something is a trope doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. It's still a porn game after all so if it's hot it's hot trope or not
 

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Getting to creampie her in the latest update is gonna be the same scene regardless of which route you took to get to that point. I was just pointing out another path to get there that ffve didn't mention. Basically going on Alison's route, including the trip where she first shows you that low cut dress, but not committing to a love relationship with her there (because that blocks Lena route). After that trip, you can commit to Lena and become a couple. That leads to Ian breaking it off with Alison in chapter 10. Which should satisfy the condition to get her to let him cum inside in chapter 11.
Oops, I might have spread misinformation here. This is, in fact, not possible. I guess I was too blinded by the prospect of Ian getting a new cheating partner on ian_lena_couple route other than Cindy and Minerva. I forgot about the fact that I fudged ian_alison points to 6 to pass that check. At the time, I just figured I could have missed a point or two somewhere.

So taking a deeper look, it seems that when Ian breaks it off with Alison over the phone, it sets their relationship to 3. He can apologize to bring it to 4. There are no more situations with her to raise the relationship score by the time she offers him to come to her place (after the Gillian thing). And the requirement for Ian to accept is 6 or more points.

So Alison's character is still trying her hardest to ensnare Ian, but Ian can't fall for it if he is on Lena route. Bummer.
 
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So taking a deeper look, it seems that when Ian breaks it off with Alison over the phone, it sets their relationship to 3. He can apologize to bring it to 4. There are no more situations with her to raise the relationship score by the time she offers him to come to her place (after the Gillian thing). And the requirement for Ian to accept is 6 or more points.

So Alison's character is still trying her hardest to ensnare Ian, but Ian can't fall for it if he is on Lena route. Bummer.
yeah this is what i was getting at yes

my Commited Relationship to Lena Ian never able to accept Alison's offer to her house. He rejects automatically.
That playthrough also has that Ian went for Cherry on the first Shine scene, but she slept with Alison too.
 

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She's definitely not a perfect person by any means but I don't think that equals to her being a piece of shit or going to murder Ian or something. The bimbofication is all about getting Ian interested. That's the main thing. If you're on her route you can push her in that direction or you can push her in the other direction. Alison, I think due to her repressed desire for Ian and her personal struggles atm, is very malleable. If Ian asks her to do something or she thinks there's even a slight chance of something getting Ian's attention she'll damn near do anything. I don't think that's the classic mindless bimbo slut but tbh even if it was 100% just the bimbo trope I'd still be into it. Just because something is a trope doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. It's still a porn game after all so if it's hot it's hot trope or not
In no way do I mean to say that this trope is bad in itself. It's just that I don't think this change is at all in Alison's character and there wasn't any background for such a change in the past Chapters, at least in case they're just friends. For example, in my walkthrough, Ian treated her as a friend and made neutral comments about her appearance when she asked. The only possible premise is that Ian and the others have been paying close attention to Ivy, but that's a very sleazy reason for such a drastic change. That's why Allison doesn't seem so consistent anymore.

I think it should have been tied to ian_go_alison's points or something, rather than happening by default.
 

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So, I went to sleep, woke up and people are still talking about Alison :FacePalm:

I still dont understand whats the issue, she is acting somewhat rationally, even more than most females would in the same situation.
She didnt try to sabotage Ian fucking with Cherry, Emma or Lena.
Nobody's car got keyed or other property was destroyed.
No pets were put in a microwave and no death threats.

Again, Alison is an ok woman who got an itch after a break-up with a guy like Milo and probably she got some serious sexual frustration to take care of. Why would she wait for Ian to make his move when Jeremy is an easy option.
 
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