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As EK throws us an unexpected IanxLenaxLouise, this can happen for Gillian's(chameleon) boyfriend too.What's the chance Mike's girlfriend is Gillian?
As EK throws us an unexpected IanxLenaxLouise, this can happen for Gillian's(chameleon) boyfriend too.What's the chance Mike's girlfriend is Gillian?
hmm, why do you think IanxLenaxLouise is unexpected ? I thought it was obviousAs EK throws us an unexpected IanxLenaxLouise, this can happen for Gillian's(chameleon) boyfriend too.![]()
Louise may be annoying but Robert is someone I want to beat the shit out of. I couldn't come thur is route Lena is full Lesbian but freaking Jeremy in two. I swear she hooked on D mighty hard; I think she would care if Louise catch them.Yeah, Louise is the Robert of females![]()
Unexpected in sense that it happened too soon. but I'm happy it happenedhmm, why do you think IanxLenaxLouise is unexpected ? I thought it was obvious
If Perry's counter is high(how well Ian can lie about Cindy to Perry) than Perry is unlikely. BUT MOST LIKELY one would be IVY(using Ian to sabotage Cindy for the position in Wildcats) or Jeremy if his relationship Ian is low and you called him a snake or some other counter regarding that. Also Axel is possibility too but if he found out about IanxCindy than he will surely use it to block Ian from Lena.I have feeling one of the friends is going to call him out on it and say the same thing. I bet you it's going to be Perry, Wade or Emma who says it. I will be shocked Gillian found outs about it and somewhat Judge Ian for being hypocrite.
All of these issues will be doubled if Ian is cheating on Lena with CindyAfter thinking about some it. Ian x Cindy is somewhat shit storm of a route for these reason alone.
1. You're screwing over your old friend who trusts you.
2.You're going the mostly lose Emma, Perry, Lena, Holly as friends because they would disgusted and disappointed of Ian.
Alison I think she's going to be mixed on it but will mad in a sense that Choose a taken girl over her when she's completely single. I say mixed because she was in unhappy relationship with someone understand moving on someone else but won't agree with the cheating.
3. He's no body than Axel and Gillian. Ian freaked on his friend's girl and lied about it constantly; honestly Ian is doing the same thing that Gillian boyfriend did and Cindy is Gillian and Wade is Ian in the situation.
Ian is going to make Wade felt the same way he did when Gillian cheated and left him.
I have feeling one of the friends is going to call him out on it and say the same thing. I bet you it's going to be Perry, Wade or Emma who says it. I will be shocked Gillian found outs about it and somewhat Judge Ian for being hypocrite.
I just know storyline won't end if he's also fooling around with other girl; it's scarier if you're freaking Alison, Cindy, and Emma they'll be angry with him even more.
Ian obviously doesn't know but it CAN'T be Jeremy. Gillian(chameleon) mentions that her boyfriend moved about 3 months ago to Belaurt Jeremy was way before with Ian.If you subscribe to the theory that Ian doesn’t know who Gillian’s boyfriend is, could the Boyfriend be Jeremy?
One of the interesting things I noticed is that, if Ian is going the "softer" route with Minerva, she really does open up to him emotionally, admits she likes having him around, talks about how lonely she is and how much her husband is basically checked out entirely from their marriage and family. And Minerva is also on the book contest committee. And Minerva isn't part of Seymour's inner circle or anything, but clearly is a trusted employee of his. So I wonder if an Ian who rejects whatever Seymour's offer is, can end up being helped in the contest or in some other way by Minerva. That would certainly be a reversal of Minerva's personality so far, but if you're on the "softer" sex route...?I had the most eerie feeling that time. That smile Seymour gave clearly indicated that He is going to use Ian for some "beneficial deal" like he did with Lena. Bringing Lena will be outrageous for Ian if Seymour asks right away or before announcing the final of Book contest. Ian clearly needed Plan B if book contest fails, there is Victor too also he can go tournament route too so, Hope is not lost for Ian![]()
You should change your nickname to Yoga, you are stretching like hell.If you subscribe to the theory that Ian doesn’t know who Gillian’s boyfriend is, could the Boyfriend be Jeremy?
Just another reason on why Ian needs to give Ivy a good dicking..........BUT MOST LIKELY one would be IVY(using Ian to sabotage Cindy for the position in Wildcats).........
I strongly disagree. Lena's supposedly read enough philosophy that she's familiar with Nietszche's three metamorphoses even before Seymore can tell her of the Child. So she, even more than most, should recognize what a ginormous red flag it is when Seymore opines that he prefers to think of "the Child" as "The Master." It not only completely invalidates the whole point of the original metaphor (rather than being reborn into a whole new world, he explicitly chains the supposed metamorph to the old world's hierarchy) but it makes it abundantly clear that he considers himself utterly beyond any sense of morality or rules.I'd agree with camube that the voluntary working with Seymour is quite "believable" -- if Lena forms a positive first impression of him (which is easy enough, she kind of expresses it by default) i can vey well see her getting swept up by Seymour's charisma and rhetoric, combined with the "high class" treatment she receives (particularly if it's highposh
Lena who is more responsive to displays of wealth etc).
The player might roll their eyes at Nietzche being touted as the top dog of philosophy, but Lena, while potentially intelligent, is still a fairly regular person, one who can easily buy into this mindset (similar how many people come to believe Machiavelli was a political genius because he's such edgelord about it) and the idea she's interacting with top-class intellectual, and strive to match/impress him rather than laugh straight in his face.
Keep on mind this knowledge is cursory, at best:I strongly disagree. Lena's supposedly read enough philosophy that she's familiar with Nietszche's three metamorphoses even before Seymore can tell her of the Child.
mr "Do you know about Nietzsche's Three Metamorphoses?"
l "I recall learning about it in high school..."
This hinges entirely on Lena's disposition towards Seymour, specifically her relationship score with him she's built so far. Lena with positive attitude towards Seymour isn't unnerved but impressed by his behavior. Her reaction to the homeless dude event also depends on how Lena has reacted to him earlier herself. E.g.:Even beyond that the narration of that whole dinner is littered with Lena being unnerved by Seyemore's various turns of phrase or general predator vibe, to say nothing of his establishing character moment harassing the local homeless man.
if help_bum == 2:
l "He wasn't bothering me..."
elif help_bum == 1:
"Thankfully Mr. Ward knew how to put an end to this awkward situation."
else:
"I let out a sigh of relief. My savior!"
Good that Eva's finally found some more artistic help she's comfortable with. From a previous post, it sounds like she's still drawing all the faces, so with line-drawing help, she now has more time to focus on them.Chapter 11 was probably the least popular of the past updates of ORS, atleast on this thread, mainly because of the minimal story progression. That being said something I think the game made a dramatic quality jump in terms of the drawings of faces during sex scenes.
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Outside player's control, very early on Lena already expresses hesitation towards Seymour's initial advance.I strongly disagree. Lena's supposedly read enough philosophy that she's familiar with Nietszche's three metamorphoses even before Seymore can tell her of the Child. So she, even more than most, should recognize what a ginormous red flag it is when Seymore opines that he prefers to think of "the Child" as "The Master." It not only completely invalidates the whole point of the original metaphor (rather than being reborn into a whole new world, he explicitly chains the supposed metamorph to the old world's hierarchy) but it makes it abundantly clear that he considers himself utterly beyond any sense of morality or rules.
Even beyond that the narration of that whole dinner is littered with Lena being unnerved by Seyemore's various turns of phrase or general predator vibe, to say nothing of his establishing character moment harassing the local homeless man. Or the tense music. The scene was clearly meant to drive home that Seymore is going to be the villain of the game, not paper over his faults in a way that might plausibly leave Lena unaware how Faustian Seymore's offer is. I agree Lena's supposed to be desperate enough to consider his offer even so, but that's just to fuel the corruption/exploitation kinks Seymore is supposed to embody.
If she'd actually had a decent working relationship with Seymore before the interview/dinner I might be willing to accept Lena turning a blind eye to some of those red flags. But she didn't, she'd barely spent 10 minutes with him. So I don't buy the argument she'd be surprised Seymore would be willing to blackmail her. If you want to play Lena as desperate enough to take the chance anyway (or just plain stupid enough not to see the obvious) that's fine, but I reject the idea that this was some masterclass in subtly, allowing the victim to hide in plain sight. It was - by design - the opposite.