VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[WatsonJohn]

There's no presumption here -- i have presented my reasoning and you didn't say a single word that'd actually refute it. There's no facts for you to base your claim on, and no facts which you'd cite to support your point, so opinion is the only alternative that's left. If you think differently, feel free to state what you think you're basing your statements on. Because you have yet to do it.


The shape of earth can be observed and measured with devices which don't have presumptions or perceptions. Both "flat" and "sphere" are also clearly defined. This is not matter of opinion, but facts. It's disingenuous for you to put yourself in the role of the reasonable person in this analogy, when your observations in our discussion were of completely different nature.


In terms of content, fun fact. There's 4 sex scenes for Ian/Minerva and also 4 sex scenes for Ian/Cindy. In terms of player satisfaction, there's many more voices expressing dissatisfaction with Cindy's (lack of) appearances in the game as of late, than about limited presence of Minerva. So, one could make a point that Cindy's fans actually feel less catered to, than Minerva's fans.

And herein lies the crux of the issue: you have yet to define what you actually consider as "being catered to". So, instead of asking me this question and shifting the burden on me, how about you make your point in full first and describe precisely how you evaluate this "catering to" Minerva's and Cindy's paths? Then we will have something tangible to apply to the rest of the discussion, instead of apparently expecting me to just somehow know what you think, when you can't be bothered to articulate it.


Absolutely not what i said. If you want to fight strawmen then don't bother. It's a pure waste of both your and mine time.

For the record, what i actually meant wasn't "you can't say that" but "what you're saying is unrealistic [and thus naive and/or stupid]". This doesn't mean you can't say it. By all means, knock yourself out.

I have also presented my reasoning. You were saying that my reasoning were just "presumptuous". You ignored the points that I made. No facts? I have literally presented them which you just ignored by then assuming I'm just making "presumptuous" for having such thoughts. If you can't even make an effort in looking for them, then I'm not making an effort in representing them again.
Like I said it's not just about sex scenes but scenes in general. Cindy has a lot more content and presence in the game. Even in gallery, she has more artwork. And my point still stands. That's exactly my point. People have pointed out that Cindy gets a lot of attention in game. You can literally see that Cindy is more catered to. It's odd how you keep making irrelevant points. Minerva having the same actual sex scenes with Cindy is not the same as Minerva having the same content as Cindy.
I have described what "catered to" means. And if you don't know what it means, then you can read it in the dictionary. You have the burden on you because you were saying this is just my presumption even though I have given points how that is the case. You were saying crying "presumption, presumption" and then when pointed out that your argument can be also easily be cried with another "presumption, presumption", you say strawman.
If you can't even be bothered to read and understand what I'm typing, then don't bother to respond.

 

[ffive]

That was two weeks ago, dude. Let it go, let it go.

 

[Leongen43]

That was two weeks ago, dude. Let it go, let it go.

ffive next time you have to make him understand that no means no so he doesn't get confused and let him go, two weeks and he still follows you, unrequited love can be something serious
Will he become a stalker like Robert does with Lena and ffive will have to file for a 100 post restraining order for his safety?
We will see it in future updates, don't miss it, now continue with our usual programming

 

[jimul18]

IIRC EK mentioned that the one getting Prologue will get Epilogue so, Ian will get CH12 epilogue too. I can't remember exactly where she said this but it was recently. It may be something like this:

1. Ch12 Prologue - IAN
2. Ch12 Alpha - IAN or LENA
3. Ch12 Beta - LENA or IAN
4. Ch12 Epilogue - IAN
5. Ch13 Prologue - LENA
6. Ch13 Alpha - IAN or LENA
7. Ch13 Beta - LENA or IAN
8. Ch13 Epilogue - LENA

If this release cycle is real and you add the bugfixed versions...

My understanding of the development plan with more frequent smaller updates is more like this:

1. Ch12 Prologue Alpha - Ian POV mainly MMA
2. Ch12 Prologue Beta
3. Ch12 Prologue
4. Ch12 Ian part Alpha mainly Beach house
5. Ch12 Ian part Beta
6. Ch12 Ian part
7. Ch12 Lena part Alpha
8. Ch12 Lena part Beta
9. Ch12 Lena part
10. Ch12 Epilogue Alpha ( she didn't explicitly mention it when she explained her new approach, but probably Lena POV)
11. Ch12 Epilogue Beta
12. Ch12 Epilogue

We are easily looking at a 5-6 month per update cycle. Time to wrap this up and go back to the drawing board.

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[| Vee |]

...Emma is radio silent from Ian's life now for whatever reasoning... So I'm fully expecting a shaft job of the highest order and more fetish pandering here on out. And to think... this game ACTUALLY HAD POTENTIAL to be something different from GGGB. To have an actual story and characters that were just tropes or fetish beacons.

EK saying and her doing do not go hand in hand as of NOW.

It's really bullshit and absolutely ridiculous that even Chad Ian do not have any scene with Emma since the WC teasing scene with Ian. For IanxLena in relationship this can be understandable but for Chad Ian it definitely doesn't make as he is going Cindy's home to derail her over and over but most easy person who Chad Ian can easily fuck is not given any content.

 

[Gicoo]

It's fine if a character doesn't get a sex scene in every chapter, because you can quickly run out of ideas and the chapters get even longer with more "obligatory" content.
Emma was busy with her protest, as we saw when Lena visited her, everyone attended to a meeting and when Perry complained that she talked about it on their "date". As for the next chapter, she is looking forward for the beach, an ideal place for Ian and Lena to play with her bikini bottoms.

 

[Zjun]

I know this is a stupid question but all the download links seem to only be downloading chapter 11, the epilogue, how do I download the full game?

 

[Sethmsf]

I know this is a stupid question but all the download links seem to only be downloading chapter 11, the epilogue, how do I download the full game?

Well, if you download the full epilogue of CH11, you are downloading the full game. The title only indicates its last update.

 

[Leongen43]

In the scene where we can have sex in the park with Lena, if she had worn the sexy rabbit suit and the pet collar, when they have sex, the people who are nearby and can't distinguish well what we are doing, will think that Ian is a sick person who likes to have sex with his pet?

 

[suckedinto]

Given it seems to be a problem, an easy and practical guide to achieve high results, and even the best one, in writing Ian's book.

You just have to choose: Vengeance, Relativistic, Anti-Hero, Doom, Metaphysical, Sacrifice.

In this way you'll achieve 8 points (aka perfect score) with a Historical book, and 7 points with a Fantasy or Sci-Fi book. To reach max points with those two you have to choose: for the Fantasy one Romantic or Crude, for the Sci-Fi one Chosen One. That's it.

To make it even simpler, just choose these for max score:
Fantasy: Vengeance, Relativistic, Anti-Hero, Doom, Romantic, Sacrifice.
Sci-Fi: Chosen One, Relativistic, Anti-Hero, Doom, Metaphysical, Sacrifice.
Historical: Vengeance, Relativistic, Anti-Hero, Doom, Metaphysical, Sacrifice.

If instead you want more freedom in choices, these alternatives will all give you the perfect score anyway:
Fantasy: Vengeance/Call Of Duty, Villain/Relativistic, Anti-Hero, Doom, Romantic/Crude, Victory/Sacrifice.
Sci-Fi: Chosen One, Villain/Relativistic, Trickster/Anti-Hero, Treason/Doom, Metaphysical, Sacrifice/Defeat.
Historical: Vengeance/Call Of Duty, Relativistic, Sage/Anti-Hero, Fight/Doom, Romantic/Metaphysical, Sacrifice.

but what does it all meannnnn though?!?

 

[Sethmsf]

Throughout the story, Ian writes a novel, said novel can be of three types, depending on the type you choose (sci - fi, Fantasy or historical), those are the options to make it perfect for a literary contest

 

[Nymphonomicon]

Is there an ending with the thicc little alt girl friend? Can't remember her name. Emma maybe?

A little early for endings yet. I suppose it was confusing to call this "Chapter 11 Epilogue", but the story isn't over yet. There's still the Summer vacation home to visit and who knows what will come after that?

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[suckedinto]

I need some more Gillian content so badly. She's #1 want.

 

[robrize2169]

the only thing i would accept with Gillian is hate fucking her while she is on the phone with her bf.

 

[Leongen43]

In the hypothetical case that Gillian is Mike's girlfriend and Lena discovers it when she argues with him and then Ian arrives hearing that Lena has sex with Mike and he is Gillian's boyfriend, will he get angry and feel like a double cuckold?

 

[Nifferman]

If this release cycle is real and you add the bugfixed versions...



We are easily looking at a 5-6 month per update cycle. Time to wrap this up and go back to the drawing board.

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Let's be real if Eva was redlolly, the dev cycle of lust campus wouldn't be a bloody mess like it is now

 

[jimul18]

Let's be real if Eva was redlolly, the dev cycle of lust campus wouldn't be a bloody mess like it is now

Exactly, what was I thinking because dev cycle issues are onheard of in this thread...

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Let's be real if Eva was redlolly, the dev cycle of lust campus wouldn't be a bloody mess like it is now

I also couldn't get past 2 minutes of Lust Campus due to the writing. It was that trite. Eva's obviously not doing the art for it either, so I just don't see her being involved in any capacity other than in encouragement, potential advice and the occasional shout-out.

 

[LoneWaker59]

I need some more Gillian content so badly. She's #1 want.

I believe that many will have to restart their game again to see Gillian's content, it's a lot of illusion to think that the heart option when Ian talks to her is the right one for the two of them to have a relationship again, any option other than "I'm over you" generates the same result, but this option is the only one that generates a response like "Ian, I still want to be part of your life", apart from the fact that Emma doesn't appear in this option but in all the others...

EVA has done this before, if you want to get Minerva then you need to choose the worst options in the game, if you want to get Bad Jessica then you need to read a guide because any wrong choice ends everything.

 

[Dom Toretto]

ETA on chapter 12