GokutheG

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I'd say Minerva. She's basically his Seymour the way she lusts after him and gets in the way of his career ambitions. But I also think if he's on Lena, Cherry, or Cindy's route, it'll probably be Axel.
Nah it's going to also be Seymour. With Minerva Ian can either dominate her, start a relationship, fall in line or get a new job. Seymour is the one with enough influence to screw with the writing competition either for or against him. Minerva can also become an ally to help him for the competition.
 

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The endgame boss for Ian is whoever happens to be Gillian's boyfriend if he still simps her(probs Mike, boring af conclusion unless Mike is portrayed in a more interesting manner), Minerva due to career embitions as stated previously or Axel cuz Cherry, Cindy or Lena.
 

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Cindy doenst sees Axel as a desperate photographer,he see him as the man who is opening the doors to a better future,the whole "desperate photographer" is you inserting your throughs into the situation using Ian as your vassal.
Exactly! He is desperate for attention(his nature) and Photographer is his job. Cindy sees him a photographer who is good at his job and can help her professionally, who apparently is doing good for himself.

I am telling it as it is. Axel is just "a desperate photographer" as a character. Dude is desperately desperate:coffee:.
 
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Most likely Ivy.

(sad SerHawkes noises)

But a bit more seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if Seymour turned out to be the end boss for both of them.
You like to put your finger in the wound, you're going to cause our deaths when he returns. :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
Speaking ORS, I would like it to be Axel and if possible in the tournament so I can break his face in front of everyone, in the case of Seymour maybe Lena will give him a happy ending of death with her hand and from the emotion the old man will die and She will be free of him, right?:unsure:o_O:LOL::LOL:
 

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This has caused obvious problems when players don't go down the intended pairing for the story.
Chief among them for me being the annoying logic issue it causes with Lena.

She can express zero interest in Ian when talking with Ivy and shoots him down when he asks for a date in Chapter 4, but then also complains to Ivy later on that she "kinda likes" him, but that "they didn't have enough chemistry after all" and that things "didn't flow as smoothly" as she expected with him.

It takes for the two of them to be "dating" until Chapter 10 for Lena to finally friendzone Ian, an option that should be available when she rejects him in Chapter 4 to provide a more interesting playthrough than Ian just being chill with Lena not liking him.
 

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Yes...I got there...I think it is promising as a route EK intends to develop.
Most likely Ivy.

(sad SerHawkes noises)

But a bit more seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if Seymour turned out to be the end boss for both of them.
I agree. Seymour will enjoy playing with two sexual puppets instead of one. But before that happens, Seymour will have Lena exhibit herself in a series of increasingly debauched and humiliating performances before audiences of his choosing. We can, of course, expect to see many of the sex shop toys that Lena had no option to purchase. It is quite possible, however, that by the time Ian enters the stage, Agnes will be in charge of the actual choreography. I think EK will be pulled in deeply by her own dark fantasies.
 

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Chief among them for me being the annoying logic issue it causes with Lena.

She can express zero interest in Ian when talking with Ivy and shoots him down when he asks for a date in Chapter 4, but then also complains to Ivy later on that she "kinda likes" him, but that "they didn't have enough chemistry after all" and that things "didn't flow as smoothly" as she expected with him.

It takes for the two of them to be "dating" until Chapter 10 for Lena to finally friendzone Ian, an option that should be available when she rejects him in Chapter 4 to provide a more interesting playthrough than Ian just being chill with Lena not liking him.
This is another reason I dislike the revamped opening. Instead of a random meeting in the Cafe now it's Ian being some shining knight for the damsel in distress. Also she's supposed to remember that the 2 met when she was at a difficult point emotionally. Their introduction was so forced that it wasn't interesting. Their story could have been interesting if things were allowed to develop a bit slower. Why is Lena not allowed to open up to Axel unless she kisses Ian on the 2nd date? Why do they automatically kiss on the 3rd date even if Lena says she's not interested in Ian that way? There really should have been a just friends path that still allowed them to help each other get over their respective heartbreak. I think either Ivy's bd or Lena's concert would have been a good opportunity to have them realize that they liked each other if that was something the player wanted. Really seems like the branching paths are way too difficult for the dev to handle with a 2 protagonist game.
 

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Nah it's going to also be Seymour. With Minerva Ian can either dominate her, start a relationship, fall in line or get a new job. Seymour is the one with enough influence to screw with the writing competition either for or against him. Minerva can also become an ally to help him for the competition.
But a bit more seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if Seymour turned out to be the end boss for both of them.
Not saying that won't eventually be the case, but entering chapter 12 out of allegedly 20 something chapters, Seymour's been more antagonistic towards Lena and almost not at all towards Ian. There hardly seems to be any development between Ian and Seymour.
 

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I believe, Ian/Seymour will pick up pace at the book fair competition. He did ask for Lena to Ian and Ian got 3 options - friendly, neutral and aggressive which nets him +1, 0, -1 towards Seymour. This probably feels like how Seymour will react to Ian later in the game. The month of September will probably cover more on Ian/Seymour/Minerva/Viktor.
 
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Not saying that won't eventually be the case, but entering chapter 12 out of allegedly 20 something chapters, Seymour's been more antagonistic towards Lena and almost not at all towards Ian. There hardly seems to be any development between Ian and Seymour.
If you choose the path in which Lena is titillated enough to willingly accept Seymour's proposal, in my view, it is not really antagonistic; rather he is feeding Lena's own desires; desires which scare her. (I curiously did a speed run of Lena truly being forced into it and found the resulting antagonistic dialogue to be very unappealing.)
 

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If you choose the path in which Lena is titillated enough to willingly accept Seymour's proposal, in my view, it is not really antagonistic; rather he is feeding Lena's own desires; desires which scare her. (I curiously did a speed run of Lena truly being forced into it and found the resulting antagonistic dialogue to be very unappealing.)
Like I said in a previous post. Seymour is a relativistic villain archetype. We have to see from more than one POV to understand him. Helping Lena in his twisted way feels normal to Seymour, he thinks his aggressive guidance will fast-track Lena to the right path of excellence and the topic of closing doors for Lena is never discussed if she willingly worked for Seymour. Lena dismissing him causes us to see that Seymour was behind all those aggressive guidance which is harassing in simple terms.
It's up to us to decide that are we ok with his behaviour or not.
 

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Like I said in a previous post. Seymour is a relativistic villain archetype. We have to see from more than one POV to understand him. Helping Lena in his twisted way feels normal to Seymour, he thinks his aggressive guidance will fast-track Lena to the right path of excellence and the topic of closing doors for Lena is never discussed if she willingly worked for Seymour. Lena dismissing him causes us to see that Seymour was behind all those aggressive guidance which is harassing in simple terms.
It's up to us to decide that are we ok with his behaviour or not.
If the scenario causes tingling...then it is ok.
 

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I believe, Ian/Seymour will pick up pace at the book fair competition. He did ask for Lena to Ian and Ian got 3 options - friendly, neutral and aggressive which nets him +1, 0, -1 towards Seymour. This probably feels like how Seymour will react to Ian later in the game. The month of September will probably cover more on Ian/Seymour/Minerva/Victor.
I just hope being neutral is enough for Ian to be successful in the book competition. I really don't wanna encourage Seymour's perverted behavior.
 
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I just hope being neutral is enough for Ian to be successful in the book competition. I really don't wanna encourage Seymour's perverted behavior.
I really don't know how EK will manage Seymour/Ian/Lena. The build-up is so slow that it would need more than 3+ chapters to tie up with that pace.

If the scenario causes tingling...then it is ok.
The tingling is sadly for the ladies. For males, it's the opposite. Most of us don't find older men with perverted desires making a woman submit to lust that desirable. If it were a younger Seymour the tune of the threads would be really different. Dare I say people would actually root for him against Axel, on who would be a better dom to Lena.
 

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Sorry for asking you guys

I was looking for 100+ page at this point and never found a "Chapter 12 tournament full mod android port" did i need to wait for JD or is there any mod file i can install in my android file ?

Sorry for any inconvenience
 

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Sorry for asking you guys

I was looking for 100+ page at this point and never found a "Chapter 12 tournament full mod android port" did i need to wait for JD or is there any mod file i can install in my android file ?

Sorry for any inconvenience
Normally a full mod is released at the end of a completed chapter on Android. Chapter 12 is not finished. Use in the meantime. Every new update breaks the mod so the modders wait till the completed chapter.
 

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Normally a full mod is released at the end of a completed chapter on Android. Chapter 12 is not finished. Use in the meantime. Every new update breaks the mod so the modders wait till the completed chapter.
Thank you kind sire.
 
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GokutheG

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If you choose the path in which Lena is titillated enough to willingly accept Seymour's proposal, in my view, it is not really antagonistic; rather he is feeding Lena's own desires; desires which scare her. (I curiously did a speed run of Lena truly being forced into it and found the resulting antagonistic dialogue to be very unappealing.)
Seymour is an intriguing character for me. I had Lena go along with the contract because I felt their back and forth was interesting. Like Seymour is so used to things going his way and I had Lena say she was more than a mere object so I'd like to see how that dynamic is developed. I hope the revamp scene didn't change that dynamic.

To me making Seymour outright antagonistic towards Lena was a bad move. Yes Seymour is an evil rich businessman but he should be attacking Lena's morals instead of trying to blackmail her because it makes him look weak and desperate. Imagine if the bad things that happens in the story could be traced back to Seymour. Alison and Wade losing their jobs is because Seymour had some businesses merge and eventho they were good they were expendable. The leap in rent is due to Seymour buying up the properties. Like make one of the places that the characters frequent go under due to new shinier businesses popping up.

While showing that Seymour business practices are hurting those around her he should be trying to lure Lena in with the good life. Like the necklace, is Lena tired of Stan and Louis' constant drama he can offer her a penthouse, support her modeling career and finally offering to help find better doctors for her parents' medical issues. Her family knows that she's been struggling to help them so how is she able to afford the doctor bills. Have them worry about what she has to do to support them.

And this would lead to Lena taking out one of Seymour's biggest obstacle in the city Emma. She's trying to fight back against Seymour's shady practices so if a Lena that's been completely seduced can try to convince her that he's not so bad and try to use the lavish lifestyle to blind her to the real issues that he's causing and having Emma added to her contact could be interesting.
 

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Seymour is an intriguing character for me. I had Lena go along with the contract because I felt their back and forth was interesting. Like Seymour is so used to things going his way and I had Lena say she was more than a mere object so I'd like to see how that dynamic is developed. I hope the revamp scene didn't change that dynamic.

To me making Seymour outright antagonistic towards Lena was a bad move. Yes Seymour is an evil rich businessman but he should be attacking Lena's morals instead of trying to blackmail her because it makes him look weak and desperate. ......

While showing that Seymour business practices are hurting those around her he should be trying to lure Lena in with the good life. Like the necklace, ...... support her modeling career and finally offering to help find better doctors for her parents' medical issues. Her family knows that she's been struggling to help them so how is she able to afford the doctor bills. Have them worry about what she has to do to support them.

And this would lead to Lena taking out one of Seymour's biggest obstacle in the city Emma. She's trying to fight back against Seymour's shady practices so if a Lena that's been completely seduced can try to convince her that he's not so bad and try to use the lavish lifestyle to blind her to the real issues that he's causing and having Emma added to her contact could be interesting.
I agree with much of what you say. Except....I only find the possibility of Ian entering the interaction interesting...not the interaction with others. (Or remotely...the possibility of Holly)

" support her modeling career" rather I would say redefine her modeling career to be one of exhibitionism to others...pushing her own limits of inhibition to the wayside...I have to say that I am looking for a much darker erotica here as I have described inmy earliest posts (despite the flak I got from others who, in my view, are looking for a conventional soap opera) .... EK herself has used the adjective "dark" for the Seymour scenario...I think she has my back on this. But...never forget...Seymour will look out for Lena's parents...that has to count for something.
 
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