Birdnman993

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Shit there's so many cool details I don't know how I'm ever going to play thru everything. I'm thinking abt trying to read the code to go thru the whole story.
Hahahahahaha I don't blame you, I've played many times and every time something appears that I didn't know, recently I discovered that we can change to Jessica in astral travel, which is very crazy and convenient.
 
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ok now i want a version where he does not respect any slut and breaks all of their hearts and another one where he also gives them all a shot before going back to his only real relationship with Gillian and breaks all their hearts again like he don't care...




Shit there's so many cool details I don't know how I'm ever going to play thru everything. I'm thinking abt trying to read the code to go thru the whole story.


I cannot for the life of me find a save to get to the punishment scene. Sounds awesome from all the discriptions, really balanced opposite of the beta routes...
I just made Lena cheat with Jack in one of my playthrough. Second playthrough Ian with bimbo Alison after the painting exhibition and the same with Lena as the first playthrough, here you can properly open the relationship or commit to each other (your choice). This will lead you to the punishment option.
 
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Seymour might get ganged up by the angry peeps of Baluart or might get beaten by Ian if he finds out on what he's doing with Lena. Axel also didn't like Lena praising Seymour but I think he might not do anything because of how carrer driven he is.
 
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ok now i want a version where he does not respect any slut and breaks all of their hearts and another one where he also gives them all a shot before going back to his only real relationship with Gillian and breaks all their hearts again like he don't care...




Shit there's so many cool details I don't know how I'm ever going to play thru everything. I'm thinking abt trying to read the code to go thru the whole story.


I cannot for the life of me find a save to get to the punishment scene. Sounds awesome from all the discriptions, really balanced opposite of the beta routes...
All you need is Lena and Ian committed to each other then have Lena cheat after that
 
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Hahahahahaha I don't blame you, I've played many times and every time something appears that I didn't know, recently I discovered that we can change to Jessica in astral travel, which is very crazy and convenient.
This is a very recent change by Eva. Something I think gets overlooked a lot by the community here, when they complain of short updates or whatever; is that Eva spends a pretty good chunk of time going back through the earlier stages of the game and adding / changing dialogue so that it lines up better with current events. Or, as you found out, hides the ability to change Jessica in the drug sequence, which is actually incredibly clever.

So I was digging through the checks for the chapter 12 MMA fight when I stumbled upon this.
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Thoughts? :unsure:
I'm betting that many of those are potential variables, similar to Lena and Holly's numerous tattoos, that are added as a "just in case." They might not all get used, but they're there on the off chance that Eva does decide to implement everyone getting into fights. Jeremy and Mike make sense as they're both in the MMA tournament, Wade makes sense on the off chance that he finds out about Cindy and Ian. Seymour, Mark, and Axel are the more interesting ones.

Somewhat on topic. I would really appreciate a route with Lena or even a sluttier Holly, gets kind of turned on by a violent Ian. Like Ian can already have a tendency towards violence, by immediately jumping Robert twice, Milo in the streets, and physically putting Wade down instead of talking him down; so it would be great if Lena, or Holly, could respond positively towards that. That they find it "hot" that their man can beat your man, type of situation.
 

PilotLara

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PilotLara I think I found another bug during Emma's scene after the Never Have I ever game.

Python:
    if ian_fit and v12_emma_sex3 == "anal":
        i "I didn't know you could squirt like that!"
        e "Me neither... To be honest, I'm not sure what happened. I felt like I was peeing myself!"
        $ fian = "confident"
        i "I hope it felt good enough to justify this mess you caused!"
        e "Oh God, it felt amazing! You've got really strong to be able to hold me up like that!"
        i "Seems like a good training method to add to my routine from now on."
v12_emma_sex3 is never set to "anal", is set to "ass" if you choose anal in the first choice. It should probable be set to "anal" in the v12emmapickup label to account for the possibility of choosing anal first or switching to it after choosing "pussy".
Fixed!
 

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PilotLara , I think there's a bug during Ian and Lena conversation at the beach. If Lena is faithful and Ian it's over Gillian and he has not fucked Cindy or were not caught by Jeremy and Ivy so Lena doesn't know. And also Ian has been cheating on Lena and decided to continue doing so.

Python:
# IAN LENA PURE ###########################################################################################################################################
    if ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis == False and gillian_stop and ian_cindy_sex == False and ian_cheating != 2:

# IAN LENA COUPLE CRISIS ###########################################################################################################################################
    elif (ian_lena_couple and ian_lena_crisis) or (ian_lena_couple and ian_cindy_sex) or (ian_lena_couple and gillian_stop == False):
    ## CRISIS

    ## IAN CINDY
        elif ian_cindy_sex:


    ## IAN GILLIAN
        elif gillian_stop == False: # gillian

          
    # ian cheating == 2
        else:
The else part of the code that it's intended to deal with the particular case I described is never entered because its parent elif is missing "or (ian_cheating == 2)".
Fixed! Thanks, Socrambus.
 
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PilotLara

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Ah, i see. The change from True to 0.5 signifies desire to "downgrade" the emotion, since in a way it's a change from 1.0 -> 0.5 But because the value is still > 0 the game treats it as Lena having feelings for Ian and acting on them.

PilotLara this could be probably considered a bug, because the game has Lena during the night talk at the beach act in opposite manner to what the player has chosen ("It's just a casual relationship") and asks Ian to "upgrade" to full relationship.

Perhaps the check here
Python:
        # LENA LOVE
            if lena_ian_love:
                $ v12_ian_lena_over = True
should be for lena_ian_love > 0.5 so in scenario where Lena opted to keep relationship casual the game will handle it as the FWB arrangement it technically still is and the player wants to keep it this way.
Reported to Eva. Thanks, as always, for your diligence ffive.
 
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Socrambus

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I'm betting that many of those are potential variables, similar to Lena and Holly's numerous tattoos, that are added as a "just in case." They might not all get used, but they're there on the off chance that Eva does decide to implement everyone getting into fights. Jeremy and Mike make sense as they're both in the MMA tournament, Wade makes sense on the off chance that he finds out about Cindy and Ian. Seymour, Mark, and Axel are the more interesting ones.

Somewhat on topic. I would really appreciate a route with Lena or even a sluttier Holly, gets kind of turned on by a violent Ian. Like Ian can already have a tendency towards violence, by immediately jumping Robert twice, Milo in the streets, and physically putting Wade down instead of talking him down; so it would be great if Lena, or Holly, could respond positively towards that. That they find it "hot" that their man can beat your man, type of situation.
What I find it curious is that those variables are not present in every male character so it looks like a "just in case" but with some thought into it.

Also, I agree completely on your "getting turn on by violence" point. It would pair up pretty well with chad Ian and sub Lena.
 

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I'm betting that many of those are potential variables, similar to Lena and Holly's numerous tattoos, that are added as a "just in case."
Yup, currently only Ian and Robert have any actual sprites for these variables, since they're the only ones who can actually suffer damage.
 
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BlandChili

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Reported to Eva. Thanks, as always, for your diligence ffive.
Can you mention the detail to Eva that was discussed a few pages back, about slutty Holly going to Ian's room even when the Lena romance for her has been going on?

Perhaps it's intended and that's fine of course, but I still find it curious that Ian himself wouldn't at least inquire about Lena when he was such a sweetie-cutie-wootie-pie to let them have their beach romance to themselves just a short time earlier.
 

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Can you mention the detail to Eva that was discussed a few pages back, about slutty Holly going to Ian's room even when the Lena romance for her has been going on?

Perhaps it's intended and that's fine of course, but I still find it curious that Ian himself wouldn't at least inquire about Lena when he was such a sweetie-cutie-wootie-pie to let them have their beach romance to themselves just a short time earlier.
Ian is simply respecting Holly's agency. If she'd rather fuck him than her sweet girlfriend, who is he to question that? /s

(it's also really dumb to bring up one's significant other when they're slipping in your bed. We don't want them to lose their nerve and/or mood, do we. :sneaky:
 
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Ian is simply respecting Holly's agency. If she'd rather fuck him than her sweet girlfriend, who is he to question that? /s

(it's also really dumb to bring up one's significant other when they're slipping in your bed. We don't want them to lose their nerve and/or mood, do we. :sneaky:
Like shooting, fuck first, fuck again, ask questions later.
 
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PilotLara

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Can you mention the detail to Eva that was discussed a few pages back, about slutty Holly going to Ian's room even when the Lena romance for her has been going on?

Perhaps it's intended and that's fine of course, but I still find it curious that Ian himself wouldn't at least inquire about Lena when he was such a sweetie-cutie-wootie-pie to let them have their beach romance to themselves just a short time earlier.
Of course, will pass it along.
 

BlandChili

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Ian is simply respecting Holly's agency. If she'd rather fuck him than her sweet girlfriend, who is he to question that? /s

(it's also really dumb to bring up one's significant other when they're slipping in your bed. We don't want them to lose their nerve and/or mood, do we. :sneaky:
An inner monologue about it first, followed by the option not to mention it then! :ROFLMAO:

"This lady ain't got no loyalty! Did I read the thing with Lena wrong? :eek:"

I'm also an advocate for Ian having a spying scene when the two of them are in the showers, when he goes to check on them, so I have no issue playing Ian as a manwhore too.
Of course, will pass it along.
Thanks a bunch! (y)
 
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xelad2

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So is there any way to get this "open relationship" going with lena at the end of the beach house event while they are actually both happy about it? Currently i can only get them if one of them was cheating on the other and it only works like a bad "workaround for further cheating" so to say.

It never seems like both of them would really want it in a healthy way, but a happy open relationship would be the absolut best in the game because everyone can f*ck everybody without bad feelings :)

Also i noticed that when Lena committs her cheating and suggests the open relationsship while Ian hooked up with Jessica in v12, this Jessica hookup is not taken to account in this conversation and Ian says to himself that he never cheated while in beeing in the relationship with Lena... seems like a bug maybe.

Besides that i hope we get the next part this year. There are so many branches to write for EK ... Not even possible to play all of them in a fair amount of time.
 
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