By having him deliver the toxic, pathetic, incel confession.
Stan was already in a really good spot for that though. The rework specifically made him an incel and even more of a loser to start. He was originally much more like Holly; a low confidence, nerdy character that the foundation was being laid for a glow up in the same way that Holly has been receiving. The conflict between him and Louise was much more subdued, and Louise thought of him as more of a slob than an outright creep. I forget if it was a life drawing event or a concert, but Lena could invite Stan and when he showed up with a fedora and a trench coat she said she would work with him on it after he said he thought he looked cool.
Darn, I feared as much.
Only your personal "canon" since they're enabled/disabled based on your playthrough and up to the player, so they'll differ between players. It's no more canon than making Ian get involved with some girl and not another in your playthrough.
If you ignore Alison, she may end up staying with him for a lack of other options. Especially if he knocks her up and he decides to take some responsibility.
I am really confused by these posts and a number of others above. I have only seen a celibate Stan who (with Lena nice to him) does photo shoots with Lena, the second in which Lena has him masturbate to her poses. (Actually, I think that was the hottest scene in the game after the two Seymour scenes.)
It's not recent, really. Stan offering his sword to Lena who has been nice to him, and Lena potentially not shooting him down but giving him a chance down the road, was a part of the game added in previous chapter(s).
Stan hasn't been reworked recently. When I say old Stan I'm usually refering to how he was written around chapter 6's release. I think he got reworked shortly there after, I don't remember if it was chapter 7 or 8's release, and almost every scene of his was rewritten, his sprite and outfit also changed dramatically too. So it's definitely been awhile for what I'm referring too.
Thank you. I saw the (awkward) sword offering scene. I think I began the game at either the chapter 10 or mid 11 release. There were references in recent earlier posts here that Lena and Stan "allegedly had sex" that had me perplexed...perhaps I am misinterpreting.
That's one of my favourite scenes now actually. Not so much because of the punishing, but Ian acknowledging his love for slutty Lena.Lilbro thinks hes badass
If you scrutinize the development of this game over the years, not even carefully, you will notice that ALL paths in this game have been dragging for SOOO long.
Meh I think Dave is the only LI I didn't have any interest in playing, save for the stealing/seducing bit which I wanted to see the build up to. I see the point though though I wouldn't completely agree as several happy endings make the guys/gals of LI quite wholesome, even those that start out preverse. One that doesn't have to be perverse at all is the boss character what's his face where she works for a company, I first played him before checking the gallery, and it was quite vanilla up to marriage. I was quite surprised there was a very whore/sugar-daddy route. It was quite confusing as well because I couldn't reconcile the character in the two playthroughs, like it wasn't just a different interaction and result with the same person, rather a different story with a different character altogether..
I mean, Jeremy is still a normal dude in the game.. as character he's not a racial stereotype at all. The problem is as a LI of Lena he's a fetish. I think in the Alison sharing route from Ian's perspective he's less of that, like just a fellow horny guy who happens to have a larger penis which is not a point of focus unless Ian is being insecure..
