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In personality, 100% agree with you.
In appearance, not at all; I think of the femme fatale as sultry, feminine, seductive (much like megan you have pictured!), not this look that says "slightly mannish druggie who dances weekends at a place called Chubbies".
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Doesn't Ivy wait to tell Lena about Ian cheating with Cindy because she thinks the relationship is nothing more than a fling? Isn't it only when Ivy thinks that Lena's starting to get serious about Ian does Ivy tell her about his cheating. She's trying to warn her that Ian is another Axel in the making.
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Ivy has a loose definition of commitment, so Ian fucking Cindy, two persons she barely know, doesn't faze her. And he wasn't commiting to Lena at that time. Ivy is a very carefree spirit, she isn't going to run to Lena and tell her her boyfriend is bad news.
So she only tells Lena because its the first time they gossip about Cindy in lenght, so Ivy brings up the dirt.
So she only tells Lena because its the first time they gossip about Cindy in lenght, so Ivy brings up the dirt.
Ok quite a few things here:
- In my hypothesis (again I am NOT saying this is for certain, it is just one possibility I can see and I would definitely NOT bet money on it), she doesn't tell Lena before because she wanted to be certain Ian and Lena were a serious thing.
- As far as your conspiracy is concerned (we are all getting "weird"), I have another conspiracy blending both our conspiracies: depending upon our choices, it could be that BOTH theories will be available in the future. For example, if you have chosen the least friendly choices with Ivy, your theory will apply. If we choose the exact opposite options, my theory will apply. It might give ideas to EK and her writer's block.
- Re. Billy's enterprise: I am quite sure it will turn out to be a porn movie production, and Lena will have the option to go into porn with Ivy or decline.
- What you say about Ivy's attraction to Chad Ian makes sense, however one fact goes in my theory's direction: even if Lena cheats on Ian and that Ivy has texted a few moments ago to Lena she could get a hotter guy than Ian anytime she wants, she STILL flirts with him...........
Both of you might be right. That's what I meant when I said Ivy's full intentions are the harder to guess in the game. So far she's one of the best written characters, perfectly ambiguous. Let's see when the story is finished if the final definition of the character holds. It can get pretty tricky to execute, specially if it's made dependant on MC's relationships with her. I hope we don't see a redemption arc "from whore to pure girl", bad Jess path already seems directed to it and one is enough.
From what I know about women working in sex-like industries (strippers, dancers, masseuses, but not actual sex workers), there is a type who just loves it. They tend to be easy-going and funny. They don’t make tricky plans unless someone pays them for that or involve them in the game. Unlike sex workers, they do what they do because they love the attention from men and not desperate for money. Some of them might even value the attention more than the money. Ivy seems to be a classic example of this type of woman. So, what are her true intentions? I guess it’s simple: to have fun and make money.
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Pretty much.
Occasionally a few theories are brought up how Ivy manipulates everyone and is ruthless, but as of now, there is no payoff shown. Ivy is too simpleminded to have those goals and motives, she is the female counterpart of Jeremy in how she just wants to live in the moment and lead a carefree life, ideally fucking hot partners without commitment. She is a hammer, not a scalpel.
Above all, EvaKiss never pulled off such complex plot twists, either because they can't and most likely because thats not what they implement in their game. The allegedly most intelligent character is Seymour and his blackmail is laughable even for hentai rapist standards.
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One thing that intrigued me was the mentioning of a foursome at Ivy's birthday party. Could it be a hint for a possible Ian/Lena/Holly/Ivy four way?
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Speaking of attention. Ivy gets pretty upset when Lena steals the spotlight without even trying. First instance happened when Lena met Billy for the first time, he ignored Ivy not once but twice in a row and you can see her dejected face. The second instance happens if Lena decides to wear the expensive outfit at Ivy's birthday party and Jeremy flat out proclaims that Lena is the hottest one by far which triggers Ivy a little.
As an addendum, even among the sexworkers there is a subgroup you could call "hobby prostitutes" who are in it because they (and oftentimes their partners) get off on it. It is not a large group, but not all that small either and the money is simply a bonus for them. As it is not difficult to see, these girls are not full timers and have lives outside the red light. Hence the "hobby" label is not wrong to apply here.
No, the game is quite a way away from ending. Almost all chapters of ORS have an epilogue. The mentioned epilogue is just the one for ch.12. for instance ch. 13 also will have an epilogue.
- Jul 25, 2017
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Thank you for clearing that up, it's what I wanted to assume but wasn't sure
Erm I have met this kind of women in Asia, Africa and the Middle East, and, digging a little bit, I realized that it was a bit more complicated than that, and that there were dependencies, addictions, explained quite a lot by exploitation of men or the system that were not far away....however if it conforts you as a man to believe it is that simple, enjoy your permanent Xmas carol. It is quite conforting indeed to choose the blue pill.
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I mean, ivy's intentions are pretty obvious in that regard. The bitch makes decisions for lena and if you question her she gets angry.
- Jul 25, 2017
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While I still haven't seen everything or finish my first playthrough only played up till chapter 9. I have somewhat mixed feeling about Ivy. She comes across as controlling and just about having a good time while being a bit of a free spirted girl doing whatever she wants and all that while making that money. Despite her controlling nature I do believe she has good intentions , like with Holly for example. I think if she doesn't like you she will put money before you and will be self centered but I do think she actually cares about Holly and Lena enough to protect them if it came down to it , even tho she does try to change them to be more like her lol.
So despite all of that Ivy is my 3rd favorite.
- Jul 7, 2017
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