VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Xupuzulla]

exactly. Thankfully dev patreons are totally different. Imagine if f95 users were her paid members. We will get handholding lesbian simulator and best action will be kiss on the cheek with other male. Not to mention few users in this thread are anti-ntr and i see them often in male protagonist games

Brother i swear this thread has the most puritans of all F95.
In other threads you have people asking for incest patches,here you have people crying the female MC is getting fucked in the ass too much like WHAT!!

 

[ffive]

We will get handholding lesbian simulator

Most porn game authors are way too vanilla to have handholding or actual lesbian content. (as opposed to "we'll just make out to turn on a guy we'll have threesome with in a moment")

 

[Geigi]

handholding

 

[XVGuil]

can anyone point me to chapter 13.2 guide? is there one out yet? I don't know if I miss it...

 

[KiraJames]

can anyone point me to chapter 13.2 guide? is there one out yet? I don't know if I miss it...

Gotta wait for modder to mod the game and release it to the public.

 

[Nifferman]

I'll keep it short. The game is obviously written for straight male players. Kinks are mostly a male fantasy and romance is not the best. The majority of girls who play otome games are not into Eva's games. That being, I prefer corruption like in 50 shades of Grey(bad choice I know) not the type of a virgin girl become a nymphomaniac and I'll never understand men's obsession with big dicks and wanting to see women fuck literally everyone in games. Humans, animals, insects...

Hey...men too like deep corruption, you know, well at least some of us do. Quality over quantity. But, most Japanese games i know are just fuck fest and nothing more though.

 

[JoeSte91]

Eva is a very talented sex writer, but there are some times when it feels like ORS would benefit from not being a sex game. There's a lot of nuance and complexity in some of the storylines, and then the next scene has some fan service or a sex scene because it feels necessary for the genre, but it's jarring having the two scenes side by side. It is very much driven by choice, so it is possible to have a sex light story or a porn heavy themed narrative, but it is one of the few games where I could imagine if Eva moved on and just wrote sfw dating sims, she'd probably do quite well.

 

[ffive]

Eva is a very talented sex writer, but there are some times when it feels like ORS would benefit from not being a sex game. There's a lot of nuance and complexity in some of the storylines, and then the next scene has some fan service or a sex scene because it feels necessary for the genre, but it's jarring having the two scenes side by side.

To be fair, i think that some of the sex scenes actually add a lot to the narrative at certain points. Like that scene with Ian punishing Lena, e.g.? Not only it's fire, but it also shows very well how the whole cheating thing has affected their relationship going forward, as well as Ian's (and Lena's) feelings at the moment. Same for the trinity scene and some others, early in the game.

So i don't think it's jarring or that EK's games would necessarily be better if they're made purely sfw. There are some sex scenes which wouldn't make difference if they're removed, but overall i think EK's games would do better as equivalent of those romance novels, which do include some sex at the end of the day. It's just not main focus.

 

[notstaged]

I have no idea what is your mental image of such guy, if you think Ian wouldn't be able to compete effectively with himself.

It's Bill Clinton, man, plain and simple. And he makes youououuuuuuuuuuuu noises on stage for a living. Absolutely perfect.

Is that all it would take you to drop your knickers for a guy?

Hell yeah. Dropping knickers, waving pantaloons, fainting on the small bedroom couch.

 

[Gicoo]

Sex sells much better in this industry.

However, Eva succeeded because their work was a healthy mix of romance and porn. Characters and stereotypes, plot and porn.

exactly. Thankfully dev patreons are totally different. Imagine if f95 users were her paid members. We will get handholding lesbian simulator and best action will be kiss on the cheek with other male. Not to mention few users in this thread are anti-ntr and i see them often in male protagonist games

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Haven't you seen other games here?
Cocky alpha assholes like Axel and Mike are great to have in the game, the corruption aspect is one of the core aspects of these games. But if these types are balanced with some nice, comforting, reasonable nice guys, its a much better end product, just how in GGGB you had some wholesome routes. And even their alpha Jack had some depth and possible redemption, while in ORS, Axels content got cut and he is an irredeemable villain.

 

[russelld]

My favorite sequence is when Lena kisses Ian for the first time at the record store and then she turns the corner and kisses Robert passionately and they go to her place for sex. Amazing turnaround.

 

[Geigi]

To be fair, i think that some of the sex scenes actually add a lot to the narrative at certain points. Like that scene with Ian punishing Lena, e.g.? Not only it's fire, but it also shows very well how the whole cheating thing has affected their relationship going forward, as well as Ian's (and Lena's) feelings at the moment. Same for the trinity scene and some others, early in the game.

So i don't think it's jarring or that EK's games would necessarily be better if they're made purely sfw. There are some sex scenes which wouldn't make difference if they're removed, but overall i think EK's games would do better as equivalent of those romance novels, which do include some sex at the end of the day. It's just not main focus.

That Ian-Lena sex scene was one of the best written sex scenes in FMC games.

Sex sells much better in this industry.

However, Eva succeeded because their work was a healthy mix of romance and porn. Characters and stereotypes, plot and porn.


Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Haven't you seen other games here?
Cocky alpha assholes like Axel and Mike are great to have in the game, the corruption aspect is one of the core aspects of these games. But if these types are balanced with some nice, comforting, reasonable nice guys, its a much better end product, just how in GGGB you had some wholesome routes. And even their alpha Jack had some depth and possible redemption, while in ORS, Axels content got cut and he is an irredeemable villain.

I couldn't stand Jack in the beginning but he grew on me and I was positively surprised by his wedding ending.

 

[Nifferman]

I do believe Eva can turn a stereotype characters into good ones, an example is Jack from GGGB, he starts out as just a privileged man-whore but once u start to know him on a deeper level he doesn't as bad as he was painted out to be.

 

[russelld]

My favorite sequence is when Lena kisses Ian for the first time at the record store and then she turns the corner and kisses Robert passionately and they go to her place for sex. Amazing turnaround.

That scene is a classic. It's like she's saying to herself "Enough of this serious lovey dovey/dating/relationship/feelings bullshit, let's get back to plain old fucking".

 

[AndreDA]

There are 2 core problems, really -

1 - all other romances are written to either complement or sabotage/kink up the Ian-Lena dynamic. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be fully developed love stories on their own, even in the "love paths".

2 - all male characters are written to either make Ian look better in comparison (all the loser friends) or like a beta cuck (all the "alpha" fuckboys), depending on what you're into. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be three-dimensional characters or compelling love interests on their own.

 

[MisterX_]

Hi ! Does anyone has a save for the slutty Holy scene ?

 

[fatpussy123]

There are 2 core problems, really -

1 - all other romances are written to either complement or sabotage/kink up the Ian-Lena dynamic. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be fully developed love stories on their own, even in the "love paths".

2 - all male characters are written to either make Ian look better in comparison (all the loser friends) or like a beta cuck (all the "alpha" fuckboys), depending on what you're into. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be three-dimensional characters or compelling love interests on their own.

I agree with the second point. But I don't see it with the first. Yes Ian x Lena are pushed the the hardest by the game. But the other romances aren't all geared to enhance Ian x Lena. You can play Ian x Holly or Ian x Cindy straight and not have any real interference from Lena. Unless you meant Lena's romances which I wouldn't even call that. They're all corruption/lust based and not romance, with very few exceptions.

 

[Jplays512]

So I was wondering do you guys think Alison would be sleeping with Jeremy if he wasn't one of Ian's good friends? This is based on if you are not sleeping with or dating Alison. To me it always seemed like she was mainly sleeping with him because she hoped it would make Ian jealous/ to get back at him in a "If you won't sleep with me I will just sleep with your friend" kind of way. I can't tell if that is just a duh that is super obvious or if I am looking to deep into that whole thing.

 

[Gicoo]

So I was wondering do you guys think Alison would be sleeping with Jeremy if he wasn't one of Ian's good friends? This is based on if you are not sleeping with or dating Alison. To me it always seemed like she was mainly sleeping with him because she hoped it would make Ian jealous/ to get back at him in a "If you won't sleep with me I will just sleep with your friend" kind of way. I can't tell if that is just a duh that is super obvious or if I am looking to deep into that whole thing.

It's both. Jeremy is an old friend, available and willing to fuck her, but also connected to Ian, so she tries to make Ian jealous through his friend. Its just a very convenient timing for her: She just broke off with her partner, so she is looking through her small social circle, and both Ian (who was taken for years by Gillian beforehand) and Jeremy are available and not named Perry.

 

[Seraph98906]

Can anyone tell me how to unlock these 2 photos. I have tried multiple routes but I was unsuccessful. Plz guide me on how to unlock these and also do Ian have to forget Gillian to unlock these?? And does Alison need to have blonde hair or brown hair??