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In the code there are some tattoo options for ian, but it seems that eva has not implemented them yet.
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Does anyone feels like Lena's side of the story is turning into late Ashley 2.0 ? This game was different because it had a deeper story, but now that looks like is gone, at least for Lena.
One more thing, do you guys think we will ever get more cosmetic changes? I get that tattoos, a beard or another hair style/color involves a lot of work. But Lena could at least get some additional piercing: nose, tongue, nipples, VCH, etc. It will be way easier to manage as they don't need to appear in every scene. Besides, Jessica needs something to do, the lack of clients is too much for her. The poor thing has to go toples in the mall to attract them. #JusticeForJessica
- Robert - I always viewed him as a female Allison. I know he's not liked by many, but there was no attempt in the last 2 years to make him at least a bit interesting. Allison is a really good alternative LI and she also a slutty route. Robert is just a booty call, not particularly interested in anything, he has no desire to impress Lena further: "hey drop by my place", "how about a club night, let's dance" or "let's go on a vacation" (the assets from Ian's trip with Holly and Allison could be reused here, maybe it's a popular tourist destination)
- Mike - well he is Cindy, but without the thrills. He's role is clearly that of a partner who cheats on their significant other, but while this was ok in the first 10 chapters, the relationship is not evolving. Or it is evolving backwards by adding Ivy into the mix and ignoring Lena. What could be done to fix it: just get him out of the club and Lena's apartment. Maybe show how Lena can't wear perfume because Mike's girlfriend started to ask questions, maybe they go on a date in the shopping mall and Lena has to hide in a changing room because Mike's girlfriend's best friend is there. You don't need to show the character, just add some dialog. You also get the added benefit of having a public change room sex scene after.
- Jeremy - He's just a fetish. He's initial description: Ian's friend, works as a bartender, he goes to the gym and likes to fuck around remained the same. He's not even a gym bro who would attempt to get Lena more interested in other forms of training. Missed opportunity for a gym locker room or shower sex scene. Added bonus if Ian's around and she has to hide.
- Louise - the hot Perry of the game who went home. Lost potential for being Lena's "good" friend, an opposite of Ivy who leads her on a different path. If Ivy introduced Stalkfap, Louise could introduce... a library and the desire to finish university.
- Stalkfap - Is still there, but the comments are gone. That was the best part. Missed oportunity for talking and thinking about other stuff - maybe someone offers her a large amount of money for a dinner and a hotel visit - maybe someone is a porn producer and asks her if she would be intrested in a casting video. Lena doesn't have to do it, just think about it. "Could she do it?" "She needs the money, but what would other think." Add a dream sequence, let her imagine it while she's with some guy, use some role play.
- Ivy - Speaking of prostitution, I still hope there is a hidden reason why Ivy has a Bentley. The oprtunity of her encouraging Lena to go after Suggar Daddy Seymour is gone, but she can still reveal her own mysterious benefactor. Would be kind of stupid, but he is in the game already so you might as well use Arthur for this.
- Cuck route - It looks like this will be similar with the GGGB cuckold path: humiliation, denial, without any intrest for how your partner is feeling. I am sure there is an audience for this, but I can't help but feel like a vixen/stag or hotwife approach would have worked just as well, if not better, for the game. All the needed background was there: Ian getting aroused by his Gillian dreams, being a bit insecure about his ability to please Lena combined with her desire to be wanted/desired after Axel cheatead on her. With time she could help Ian get over his insecurities by showing him she loves him, while also geting a half-open relationship - open for Lena - which allows her to satisfy other needs and fantasies they both have.
One more thing, do you guys think we will ever get more cosmetic changes? I get that tattoos, a beard or another hair style/color involves a lot of work. But Lena could at least get some additional piercing: nose, tongue, nipples, VCH, etc. It will be way easier to manage as they don't need to appear in every scene. Besides, Jessica needs something to do, the lack of clients is too much for her. The poor thing has to go toples in the mall to attract them. #JusticeForJessica
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- Jun 24, 2017
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What is more sad about it, is that it also happens while you are in a normal relationship with Lena. Or at least it did. I had a play through where Ian still struggles with Gillian, but is in a committed relationship with Lena. A pure path in which he opened up, told Lena about his dream, without being on the cuckold path and then this happened. It felt like a moment of betrayal.
Maybe this is a bug. PilotLara - In chapter 11 - Ian can have a point in ian_cuck, which will let him tell Lena about his dream. Immediately after that there is a footjob scene, in which an athletic Ian could reset his cuckold status to 0. If that happens, the above scene doesn't make to much sense. Ian is no longer on the cuck path.
- Oct 29, 2017
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Yep. Plain and simple EK wants to put a bullet in this projects head, all because she went way to ambitous and has gone from actually sticking to the story she was supposed to want and build on to pretty much listening to fetishists and pandering to them over and over again ad nausism. Yet here is the big ol kicker: She didn't want this to turn into another GGGB. YET THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT SHE IS FUCKING DOING!
In short? EK talks out of her ass 99% of the time.
- Jul 7, 2017
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I think she wanted to ORS be somewhat vanilla/light BDSM story game, but then she lost her enthusiasm for the game/have writer's block and decided to write the game according to patron's wishes. We all had the feeling that the game will turn into the softcore version of GGGB.
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I think she wanted this story to be something to that degree sure. Yet around Chapter 6, when she started and began the whole 'rework' bullshit with at the time Wade, everything started to fall part. Chapters later we got the "Stan Update", which made zero sense to begin with, not to mention didn't change him one damn bit. So the circle of downwardness really started back around Chapter 6.I think she wanted that ORS be softcore story game, but then she either lost her enthusiasm for the game/have writer's block and decided to write the game according to patrons wishes. We all had the feeling that the game is turning into softcore version of GGGB.
What could have been the reason why EK lost herself and way is certainly up for debate: Writers Block, Wanting more of her fetish money, lack of confidence, bit off more than she could chew, or all of the above. Personally I say all of the above. Had she actually taken the time to write shit out throughly, much akin to how writers do with chapters, as well as not rushing herself to put out updates, we likely wouldn't be in this shithole of a mess to begin with. I mean really, pointless ass cameos that only Lena gets to fuck with and Ian gets fuck all with the lone exception of a BG Jess? EK hasn't hit rock bottom here, she is beyond rock bottom at this point. She is now on point to reaching the core of the fucking earth with how much of a miss she has done. And likely, atleast I hope to fuck, this is a hard lesson for her to learn. Maybe, just fucking maybe, she will actually plan shit out and not do shit on a whim. She'll less stress herself out and stop setting planned goals of releasing shit. And maybe she will take up some writing and story classes as well to help her writing and try something new. Naturally, while I hope for that, I've been far to jaded with the current results and doubt such things will happen, among other prospects.
Jeez... I'm normally quite harsh in my evaluation of things but I think you guys are WAAY too hard on Eva.
If you look back at GGGB, it's a story that is psychologically quite simple but Eva unpacks the psychology in a number of really interesting ways. I think that ORS was intended as a far more psychological and character-driven story and while I think she's struggled to deliver that while keeping her audience onside and providing regular updates that are playable and advance the story, you have to allow for the fact that A) ORS is a huge step-up compared to GGGB, and B) Eva has been extraordinarily productive and consistent despite clearly struggling with some of the decisions she made early on.
Could ORS have been better? I mean sure... but look at this thread and consider how many of the posts are basically people going 'I found this character hugely evocative and I want to learn more about them by having the story go in this direction'. Eva will learn from this and the next game will be even better.
There are times when this thread teeters on the brink of being a venue for out-and-out fan fiction. To look at that and consider this project a failure is just demented to my eyes.
If you look back at GGGB, it's a story that is psychologically quite simple but Eva unpacks the psychology in a number of really interesting ways. I think that ORS was intended as a far more psychological and character-driven story and while I think she's struggled to deliver that while keeping her audience onside and providing regular updates that are playable and advance the story, you have to allow for the fact that A) ORS is a huge step-up compared to GGGB, and B) Eva has been extraordinarily productive and consistent despite clearly struggling with some of the decisions she made early on.
Could ORS have been better? I mean sure... but look at this thread and consider how many of the posts are basically people going 'I found this character hugely evocative and I want to learn more about them by having the story go in this direction'. Eva will learn from this and the next game will be even better.
There are times when this thread teeters on the brink of being a venue for out-and-out fan fiction. To look at that and consider this project a failure is just demented to my eyes.
- Aug 1, 2022
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Yep,one of the biggest problems with this thread is that people have insane headcanon fiction about EK and the characters...im guilty of this too,im not washing my hands.
But at least i dont try to make the patreons the villains when they are the ones funding this great game.
- Sep 8, 2019
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Yea. Many people complaining about literally anything in this thread. They want to completely change some things/characters for their own personal tastes/preferences instead of just sitting and enjoying the ride.
In the meantime Dev make new record of paid members, break 3k barrier and get 3119 patreons. People love this game
- Aug 1, 2022
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You can also....just stop playing the game,inst that a more healthy reaction?
Stop giving your energy to Evakiss.
I think a lot of people need to discover the joys of writing fic...
I am a Minerva/Ian femdom fan and very much like the idea of Cindy fliting with Ian at Jiu-Jitsu and Ian walking straight past her at some party in order to lavish attention on the older woman that Cindy decided to dunk on in the pole-dancing class at the beginning of the game while Cindy is still selling feet pictures over the internet and humming-and-hawing over maybe going on a date with the black guy who has been fucked and summarily discarded by Lena, Alison, and Louise.
I don't see it as some sort of failure that Eva failed to provide this for me... she can't provide images to every degenerate piece of head-canon... the fact that she produced a game that inspired me to come up with the above scenario is a gift. Most games don't make me wonder what it would be like if various NPCs hooked up.
I am a Minerva/Ian femdom fan and very much like the idea of Cindy fliting with Ian at Jiu-Jitsu and Ian walking straight past her at some party in order to lavish attention on the older woman that Cindy decided to dunk on in the pole-dancing class at the beginning of the game while Cindy is still selling feet pictures over the internet and humming-and-hawing over maybe going on a date with the black guy who has been fucked and summarily discarded by Lena, Alison, and Louise.
I don't see it as some sort of failure that Eva failed to provide this for me... she can't provide images to every degenerate piece of head-canon... the fact that she produced a game that inspired me to come up with the above scenario is a gift. Most games don't make me wonder what it would be like if various NPCs hooked up.
- Jul 7, 2017
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You mean like writing a fanfic? Oh yeah, it's perfect for those who have ideas and can write but are not good with the development. I mean that's how you start learning. By writing a fanfiction you improve your writing and use the least complex program. If you have the money, you can hire someone to code/draw meanwhile you write.
- Apr 25, 2020
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Despite what she said, it was always where it was leading. Just a bit more fleshed out characters and a bit more grounded (no drug gang). That's also fans' expectations
This is unlikely, she already explained how it was a pain in the ass to do tattoos for Lena, especially in the lewd CG. She considered it for Ian (as we can see in the code) but she said she was very unsure she'd do it
Most professional female authors working in SF, Fantasy, and Romance will have cut their teeth writing for sites like An Archive Of Our Own.
From the outside, Fan-Fiction can seem like people just writing bad additional material for existing film and TV series but part of that process is also exploring the sexual possibilities of different characters and that side of things can get pretty debauched... the famous example is always Kirk and Spock but I saw a fic the other day about Always Sunny in Philadelphia in which Dennis basically gets off on giving Mac a series of eating disorders. Then there's the fic about the BBC Sherlock series where Benedict Cumberbatch's character is a 12 year old boy and Dr Watson is a stern head-master.
I'd love for there to be ORS fan-fiction... don't moan on the internet about how Eva is ignoring your head-canon, write a story about how Seymour gets bored of Lena and decides to focus his energies on Perry instead!
- Jun 24, 2017
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This is why I was thinking that piercings could be a good idea. They are mostly hidden and when they are not, it's a simple layer which can be turned around and put in place with ease.
Ivy is a good example, though not the best one because she barely has any scenes, but we've seen her tongue piercing once.
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How can you be inspired to write about certain characters in a specific setting when we don't have enough inside in the characters and the conclusion of their arcs, because the game isn't completed and drags on for 5 years with little indication when, if and how it ends? And how can you write a fanfic about the characters when its not elaborated on how and why the act? I have no idea how you would write a proper Stan/Lena fanfic, because we get no explanation why Lena is interested in him.
You only get fanfics if the original product is good enough. ORS isn't complete and a good chunk of characters are a mess in terms of relevance (most males are just fuckboys with bare agency and dreams) and consistency (many females go from prudish to slut at a whim).
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Speaking of which, is Minerva content effectively done now other than maybe text messages?
Good lord no. An Ian that is falling for Minerva still has yet to give her that gift he can buy her.