VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.6] [Eva Kiss]

[EnigmaticChap]

I feel like this is a case or rose nostalgia glasses more than anything else. Most of individual plot lines in GGGB were basically devices for different kinks, with very little story content that wasn't directly tied to those kinks.

I think the story was good and subjective for different people..

 

[Geigi]

Certainly, it is a pity that eva has lost her balance. All that to see jabba the hutt fuck lena.

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[SerHawkes]

I think the story was good and subjective for different people..

GGGB story was handled well enough given the pathing. You had one main character and various other branches. While some intertwined here and there, for the most part the story was essentially how to handle Ashley: Make her successful with working a corp job (with or without being a slut), going into the modelling path, becoming a stripper, drug dealer, or jail/death. Semi simple.

Here though, we have two main characters, a over abundance of branches that at times is hard even for EK and her supposed helpers, to keep it cosistent. At first, this ambition wasn't bad to begin with. Now though? We see far more sexual content, that is reused scenes 90% of the time just reshaded or tweaked with Lena ad nausium, while Ian gets barely any scenes or screen time with the girls at all. There is no more balance as it was 3-4 years ago.

 

[Jplays512]

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[Ray_D]

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[EnigmaticChap]

GGGB story was handled well enough given the pathing. You had one main character and various other branches. While some intertwined here and there, for the most part the story was essentially how to handle Ashley: Make her successful with working a corp job (with or without being a slut), going into the modelling path, becoming a stripper, drug dealer, or jail/death. Semi simple.

Here though, we have two main characters, a over abundance of branches that at times is hard even for EK and her supposed helpers, to keep it cosistent. At first, this ambition wasn't bad to begin with. Now though? We see far more sexual content, that is reused scenes 90% of the time just reshaded or tweaked with Lena ad nausium, while Ian gets barely any scenes or screen time with the girls at all. There is no more balance as it was 3-4 years ago.

Plus there is no content for Ian cucking other guys. No accountability for females but more accountability for the men. Eva certainly is downplaying the male protagonist and the males in this game in general.

 

[dolfe67]

Plus there is no content for Ian cucking other guys. No accountability for females but more accountability for the men. Eva certainly is downplaying the male protagonist and the males in this game in general.

He's cucking Wade with Cindy, Minerva's husband and might cuck Jeremy with Louise. Do you want him to cuck a random?

 

[Gicoo]

He's cucking Wade with Cindy, Minerva's husband and might cuck Jeremy with Louise. Do you want him to cuck a random?

He isn't cucking Jeremy, that guy doesn't consider Louise his girlfriend.

Jeremy is uncuckable. If you tell him you fucked the girls he is with and/or he tries to go after, his eyes widen, his stature rises, his fist lashes out and with bombastic voice he explodes: "AMAZING BRO, YOU ARE A GOD AMONG MEN, I'M SO PROUD OF YOU, GIMME FIVE!"

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[SerHawkes]

Stop it guys. The game is amazing and her work is a masterpiece. With all the different paths and angles and how each and every choice effects the story, there is no VN out there that can match ORS. You can virtually write your own story each time you play. How many VN's can boast this? None.

My guy in christ... 5 years ago I would have agree with you. Now? The game is borderline below average and her "work" is entirely run of the mill at this point. Sure there are all different paths that affect the story, yet I'm 5 years in waiting for one damn path to come onto the launch pad, with only recent times getting small crumbs of hope. There are quite a number of games that have many paths that affect the story that are on par, if not do a better job than ORS.

So, politely, I call bullshit.

 

[EnigmaticChap]

He's cucking Wade with Cindy, Minerva's husband and might cuck Jeremy with Louise. Do you want him to cuck a random?

It's more like cheating than cucking, wade and Minerva's husband don't know anything about it when it happens.

might cuck Jeremy with Louise.

Jeremy is uncuckable just like other person said, he doesn't care who fucks his women.

 

[GokutheG]

My guy in christ... 5 years ago I would have agree with you. Now? The game is borderline below average and her "work" is entirely run of the mill at this point. Sure there are all different paths that affect the story, yet I'm 5 years in waiting for one damn path to come onto the launch pad, with only recent times getting small crumbs of hope. There are quite a number of games that have many paths that affect the story that are on par, if not do a better job than ORS.

So, politely, I call bullshit.

I think that's a bit too far tho. Is the game living up to the potential that the beginning had? No. Compared to most of the female protagonist tag games on this site it is still in the top percentile even tho it's obvious Eva is having a hard time with the story especially on the non Lena/Ian paths.

 

[SerHawkes]

I think that's a bit too far tho. Is the game living up to the potential that the beginning had? No. Compared to most of the female protagonist tag games on this site it is still in the top percentile even tho it's obvious Eva is having a hard time with the story especially on the non Lena/Ian paths.

And whose fault is that? She's having a hard time on Non Lena/Ian paths because she has completely abandoned her proposed story in favor of trying, abietly failing, to make everyone happy.

She could have told all of her supports who were requesting and demanding things this: "I understand that you want to see certain things. And you will, however I very much want to focus on shaping this story as I see fit. While you may see less of some things, there will be varies things here and there I hope will satisfy some.'

Now, it would be likely she would have lost some money with that possible statement, but I think she still would have retained most of her supports and would likely have supported her even more had she stuck to her story. She didn't. And right now she is scrambling to try and save face with everyone. More Lena fucking every possible dude or chick possible to cater to the NTR/Cucks while shafting Ian with less and less time on screen and time with any of the girls.

 

[silentguardian]

any news about the chapter 4?

 

[russelld]

My guy in christ... 5 years ago I would have agree with you. Now? The game is borderline below average and her "work" is entirely run of the mill at this point. Sure there are all different paths that affect the story, yet I'm 5 years in waiting for one damn path to come onto the launch pad, with only recent times getting small crumbs of hope. There are quite a number of games that have many paths that affect the story that are on par, if not do a better job than ORS.

So, politely, I call bullshit.

Politely I ask name one that even comes close? I've literally played hundreds of AVN's and none come even close to this one when it comes to choices and a variety of paths. If you prefer to see one relationship more than another or you're not happy how one character has not been developed then it's too bad. There is enough of a buffet here to choose from and be satisfied with.

 

[GokutheG]

And whose fault is that? She's having a hard time on Non Lena/Ian paths because she has completely abandoned her proposed story in favor of trying, abietly failing, to make everyone happy.

She could have told all of her supports who were requesting and demanding things this: "I understand that you want to see certain things. And you will, however I very much want to focus on shaping this story as I see fit. While you may see less of some things, there will be varies things here and there I hope will satisfy some.'

Now, it would be likely she would have lost some money with that possible statement, but I think she still would have retained most of her supports and would likely have supported her even more had she stuck to her story. She didn't. And right now she is scrambling to try and save face with everyone. More Lena fucking every possible dude or chick possible to cater to the NTR/Cucks while shafting Ian with less and less time on screen and time with any of the girls.

It's obvious that Lena/Ian is the spark for this game's creation. I think Eva just underestimated the amount of players who aren't interested in this pairing so now she needs to spend even more time developing the side relations to be satisfactory. I'm not interested in the pairing and it's not for any fetish/kink reasons. I find that pairing uninteresting due to how heavily Eva pushed it in the beginning of the game if you just wanted to play it as Lena being friends with him. I think the biggest hurdle Eva set up for her self is trying to make this game have 2 different protagonists at the same time and maintaining all the different branches. I think the kink focus is really just a crutch the dev uses while she tries to come up with an interesting story because she has experience with that from her previous game since it's easier.

Would Eva have had an easier time if she made a kinetic story where Lena always date Ian? Maybe. I know personally I hate when games force the mc to already have a significant other.

The reason Lena seems to get more in terms of content over Ian is because she grew her audience off of being able to play as a girl since her first game and Ian seems to have been a challenge that she set for herself since she thought she could tackle certain topics with a guy mc.

Is it really considered "cucking/NTR" for Lena to sleep with all the girls and/or guys the player can if Lena has no relationship with Ian?

 

[Xiaen]

Man that glory hole scene with Holy was a banger. I can't wait for last chapters where Ivy, Lena and Holly do some crazy stuff together.

 

[Geigi]

Is it really considered "cucking/NTR" for Lena to sleep with all the girls and/or guys the player can if Lena has no relationship with Ian?

It's not.

 

[GifMeMore1987]

I've literally played hundreds of AVN's

Sorry, couldn't resist!

 

[CaiWez]

You are right. It does trigger the crisis. If Ian chooses the broken heart option. The one that Ian says he can't see Lena as just a friend. And Lena chooses that she still wants to be with Ian. They do agree to become a couple at the end of the chapter. Ian does act jealous the whole chapter though. And there is some flavour text. He also shares he is not thrilled about Lena seeing Jeremy behind his back. In chapter 13 if Ivy told Lena about Cindy she asks Ian about it and he flat out lies if he was still seeing Cindy before the beach house events. Lena can even bring up Jeremy as a candidate for the MMF threesome.

What are the important choices in this route? No matter what I do I couldn't get Ian and Lena to become a couple in chap 12 if Lena woke up Jeremy with sex in chap 8.

 

[dolfe67]

And whose fault is that? She's having a hard time on Non Lena/Ian paths because she has completely abandoned her proposed story in favor of trying, abietly failing, to make everyone happy.

She could have told all of her supports who were requesting and demanding things this: "I understand that you want to see certain things. And you will, however I very much want to focus on shaping this story as I see fit. While you may see less of some things, there will be varies things here and there I hope will satisfy some.'

Now, it would be likely she would have lost some money with that possible statement, but I think she still would have retained most of her supports and would likely have supported her even more had she stuck to her story. She didn't. And right now she is scrambling to try and save face with everyone. More Lena fucking every possible dude or chick possible to cater to the NTR/Cucks while shafting Ian with less and less time on screen and time with any of the girls.

Unfortunately you're not her manager, and catering to fetishists seem to work for her. Too bad for you!

Sure it could be better, but nothing is perfect. She bit more than she can chew though, with a double protag.