Okay, I forget from the Chapter 12 content; I thought there was an implication it was done.
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Does she, now? From what i remember in the game's script, if Lena has actually fucked Jeremy this makes Jeremy confess about it to Ian, which triggers
ian_lena_crisis and prevents late-game relationship from forming because it's then not considered "pure", which is a pre-requirement at that stage.It's not a bug.
Python:
elif v11_tell_dream:
"Lena looked at me and smirked before delivering her statement."
l "Never have I ever had a dream about my ex cheating on me and found it arousing."
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Only if they are still a couple then. In my PT Ian broke up with Lena because of Cindy, and he's told her about that dream. But she didn't mentionned it in the "never have I ever" game
Maybe it's a change in the game script, but it doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Lena will bring it up no matter the relationship status on her turn, with one exception: if the Holly Trinity is about to happen then she will prioritize talking about skinny-dipping instead. (but i doubt that would trigger in the play through where Ian broke up with Lena for Cindy)
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You are right. It does trigger the crisis. If Ian chooses the broken heart option. The one that Ian says he can't see Lena as just a friend. And Lena chooses that she still wants to be with Ian. They do agree to become a couple at the end of the chapter. Ian does act jealous the whole chapter though. And there is some flavour text. He also shares he is not thrilled about Lena seeing Jeremy behind his back. In chapter 13 if Ivy told Lena about Cindy she asks Ian about it and he flat out lies if he was still seeing Cindy before the beach house events. Lena can even bring up Jeremy as a candidate for the MMF threesome.
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Nah, we are being tame in our judgement here, specially me.
Some of us here have been here since the very first iteration of this game. Hell, some of us even supported this game finacially, self included. Many hoped that this game would turn out to be something other than a fancied up iteration of GGGB. Myself? I had two things in mind: Naturally Ian and Ivy, but also I was curious on how EK would grow going from GGGB into this one.
For the first year and a half or so, things looked promising. Story did have some bumps but there was some measure of ground work laid that could have been built on. At the same time: There wasn't a months apart meeting from Lena ala the Prologue, Ian and Axel could be semi buddy with each other, and Ivy and Ian had some measure of a flirty exchange in the first iteration.
Similiarly when asked about Ian and Ivy, EK said and claimed that they were on the back burner and she was trying to figure how to incorperate them. This was in year two. Sure, that makes some sense, being around Chapter 6 or so.
Then came the first rework. Wade. Now, originally, Wade had a job yet was not putting in enough effort in the relationship with Cinders. Also, Ian and Ivy's flirty moment was changed to her giving him a peck on the cheek. Outside of that nothing changed. Story remained the same yet there was more of a different tone of things. Not longer were we getting more story being progressed and we saw more and more panderment to kinks. More sex, less story. Sure, some could say thats a good thing. Others would argue differently. Me, I see it as a problem. At the time there were some kinks here and there, scattered among the chapters, which is well and fine. But since Chapter 6 there has been more and more showings of more and more kinks and fetishs. Not really a great sign, esspecially when EK herself said she didn't want to ORS to turn into another GGGB. Also... and here is a kicker: She said that she WASN'T GOING TO ADD ANYMORE CHARACTERS TO THE STORY SINCE THE CAST WAS ALREADY BOLSTEROUS AS IS.
What do we get? Cameo Jack for a one off scene and possible romance with Lena, Shopclerk Gal likely going to hook up with Lena at some time, Mark, Marcel, fucking Arthur from GGGB, among others, ALL FOR LENA. Ian though? Path pending scene with Bad Girl Jess and a one time meet and greet with Natalie.
And of course we can't forget the illustrious STAN UPDATE in year three. An update that not only didn't change or add anything to Stan's character, but also changed the prologue to a pointless months away remeet and greet with Lena and made Ian think he was a creepy stalker, as well as change the possible buddy ship with Axel to spending more time with your dumbass friend Jeremy and removed the peck on the cheek with Ivy into a normal, boring encounter. And instead of advancing on from the story side on both, its been a slog of Lena being able to fuck anyone without any consequence and Ian getting possibly punished if he does anything, while slamming in more kink and fetish content because EK lives in a constant echo chamber filled of sycophants that want their kinks catered too over and over again.
I stopped my support of this game just after Wade's update because I had a feeling this was how it was going to be and of course I was right. To have such hopes for this game only to be met with disregard and a sharp change of direction, all because of the risk of "losing" her supports in not catering to their very kink it to be quite frank, disappointing and very frustrating. I'm not alone in this venture, though I am certainly the most vocal in my disappointment. The thing with being critical of developers is that some tend surround themselves with yescunts and live in their safe little space of an echo chamber, thinking they can cater and appease everyone but end up failing to such ventures, all because they listen too much to the supporters and their requests over and over again for certain content which is already overly pandered to. As a result, their own game suffers, despite their best efforts to try and "balance" things. And as a result, here we are.
Now, if you will excuse me...
Leave me alone to die...
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On one side there are those who wanted tamer game, on the other there are those who wanted more hardcore game than GGGB was. I'm talking about DW shit.
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Not a surprise, given her start with GGGB. It's safe to say she wanted this game to be somewhat tamer yet still have kinks here and there. Which up until Chapter 6, she was doing well on that. But since then, we all see the result.On one side there are those who wanted tamer game, on the other there are those who wanted more hardcore game than GGGB was. I'm talking about DW shit.
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Stop it guys. The game is amazing and her work is a masterpiece. With all the different paths and angles and how each and every choice effects the story, there is no VN out there that can match ORS. You can virtually write your own story each time you play. How many VN's can boast this? None.
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I noticed that too. A lot many adult authors these days caters to kinks more than the story these days, which makes the novel slowly flop down the line. GGGB was equally balanced in story and kinks but same cannot said for ORS which is having less of a story after chapter 6 and more kink related content.
I feel like this is a case or rose nostalgia glasses more than anything else. Most of individual plot lines in GGGB were basically devices for different kinks, with very little story content that wasn't directly tied to those kinks.
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Certainly, it is a pity that eva has lost her balance. All that to see jabba the hutt fuck lena.
Honestly the amount of branching is the problem tho. It turned the game from being a story with sex to a porno that sometimes gives more story. There are so many love interests that the story is snail paced.
It doesn’t help that most of the sex scenes (and soft core scenes) are usually just the same scene with 1 of 3 replaceable love interest models. I feel VN’s need to be properly trimmed and managed or you are going to have some branches not getting enough nutrients and start dying. At least to me that seems to be where we have been for a few chapters now and it seems to be getting worse not better.
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I think the story was good and subjective for different people..
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GGGB story was handled well enough given the pathing. You had one main character and various other branches. While some intertwined here and there, for the most part the story was essentially how to handle Ashley: Make her successful with working a corp job (with or without being a slut), going into the modelling path, becoming a stripper, drug dealer, or jail/death. Semi simple.
Here though, we have two main characters, a over abundance of branches that at times is hard even for EK and her supposed helpers, to keep it cosistent. At first, this ambition wasn't bad to begin with. Now though? We see far more sexual content, that is reused scenes 90% of the time just reshaded or tweaked with Lena ad nausium, while Ian gets barely any scenes or screen time with the girls at all. There is no more balance as it was 3-4 years ago.