BlandChili

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Not sure, but you might try the following:

* have Holly join Ivy's gym classes
* make sure Holly's change variable is kept low (no more than 3)
* when Holly is talking with Mark at Ivy's birthday party, interrupt them. With low change variable this should lower holly_guy variable to 0.5 and then automatically to 1, which is not enough for Holly to leave the party with Mark, but enough to keep this pairing open.
* with Holly out of the picture have Lena suck off Mark in the club toilet in Ch.10
* Mark will text Lena in Ch.11, accept his invitation to activate lena_mark_dating
* later in Ch.11 Holly and Lena will talk about Mark/Holly during Holly's phone call. Pick the option "You should do it", to set holly_guy to 2 which should be enough for sex to happen.
Please do report back on your potential success varpep. I would be curious to see if I could recrate it myself.
 
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Not sure, but you might try the following:

* have Holly join Ivy's gym classes
* make sure Holly's change variable is kept low (no more than 3)
* when Holly is talking with Mark at Ivy's birthday party, interrupt them. With low change variable this should lower holly_guy variable to 0.5 and then automatically to 1, which is not enough for Holly to leave the party with Mark, but enough to keep this pairing open.
* with Holly out of the picture have Lena suck off Mark in the club toilet in Ch.10
* Mark will text Lena in Ch.11, accept his invitation to activate lena_mark_dating
* later in Ch.11 Holly and Lena will talk about Mark/Holly during Holly's phone call. Pick the option "You should do it", to set holly_guy to 2 which should be enough for sex to happen.
Threading that needle!

This game could really have achievements for juggling the oddest combos or dynamics. (I know if you have a really low relationship with Ivy, she won't invite you over after her BD party, but they still go on the trip together, right? I'm curious if there will be a serious split ever, and if it'll be worth a playthrough. Same with the Mom, Louise, and stealing from Molly and Ed. Like, I guess if you wanna RP being a super shitty Lena it's an option.)
 
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Threading that needle!

This game could really have achievements for juggling the oddest combos or dynamics. (I know if you have a really low relationship with Ivy, she won't invite you over after her BD party, but they still go on the trip together, right? I'm curious if there will be a serious split ever, and if it'll be worth a playthrough. Same with the Mom, Louise, and stealing from Molly and Ed. Like, I guess if you wanna RP being a super shitty Lena it's an option.)
Lena/Ivy potentially being rivals would make their relationship much more interesting to navigate. Lena-Cindy and Ivy-Cindy too, depending on how malicious either girl can be towards her in regards to Wildcats.
 

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Can't seem to find if anyone else mentioned it yet but how can you unlock the Emma and Lena scene? I got her to come over to the house but it's not letting me ask her to stay.
 

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Can't seem to find if anyone else mentioned it yet but how can you unlock the Emma and Lena scene? I got her to come over to the house but it's not letting me ask her to stay.
If you started a relationship with Holly you can't. I assume the same is the case for trinity.
the only evil here is ivy,she is the opposite of lena.I dunno why they are friend
Eh, the player can be pretty nasty with Lena.
 
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Please do report back on your potential success varpep. I would be curious to see if I could recrate it myself.
Something to keep in mind though (i forgot to mention it initially) is that this sequence won't work if Lena and Holly are in romantic pairing and had sex -- Holly won't get interested enough in Mark in this scenario, and Lena's interruption will just kill their pairing completely.
 
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Something to keep in mind though (i forgot to mention it initially) is that this sequence won't work if Lena and Holly are in romantic pairing and had sex -- Holly won't get interested enough in Mark in this scenario, and Lena's interruption will just kill their pairing completely.
I see. Was that always the case do you know? Perhaps this is something I avoided by using saves from old versions of the game.
 

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Lena/Ivy potentially being rivals would make their relationship much more interesting to navigate. Lena-Cindy and Ivy-Cindy too, depending on how malicious either girl can be towards her in regards to Wildcats.
I do also wonder how poor you can get, and what decisions are forced. A no Seymour, no Stalkfap, bad at modeling, bad at song writing, agree to increased rent.

Hell, I know Lena can end up in a cafeteria (haven't played it, because I'm not a monster), but I don't even know if Ian does anything but ask for money from his dad if he loses his job.
 

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I do also wonder how poor you can get, and what decisions are forced. A no Seymour, no Stalkfap, bad at modeling, bad at song writing, agree to increased rent.

Hell, I know Lena can end up in a cafeteria (haven't played it, because I'm not a monster), but I don't even know if Ian does anything but ask for money from his dad if he loses his job.
In GGGB Ash can end up with pretty mediocre life situations, working at a clothing store or the fast food joint. I would assume something similar to be the case with Lena, living in mediocrity, at least with certain potential relationships and certain choices.
 
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Can't seem to find if anyone else mentioned it yet but how can you unlock the Emma and Lena scene? I got her to come over to the house but it's not letting me ask her to stay.
I think (beyond having a good relationship with her) you can't be in a serious relationship with Ian, or have the Holly Trinity. So, either Ian and Lena have the true open relationship, are split, and maybe the 3some open relationship might work, but I couldn't swear.
 

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Lena/Ivy potentially being rivals would make their relationship much more interesting to navigate. Lena-Cindy and Ivy-Cindy too, depending on how malicious either girl can be towards her in regards to Wildcats.
So far their interactions have been so few and far between a rivalry wouldn't go far. But yeah, if somehow they all end up on the Wildcats it could get some juice.
 

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I see. Was that always the case do you know? Perhaps this is something I avoided by using saves from old versions of the game.
Hmm no clue, and unfortunately i don't have older builds of the game to check the older script versions. The difference is fairly subtle on the surface, just couple of text lines going different in Ch.10:
Python:
        if holly_guy and lena_holly_sex == False:
            $ holly_guy = 2
            "Holly was still talking with Ivy's friend, Mark. Judging by their body language, it seemed clear Mark was making advances on her..."
            "And I had the impression she wasn't disliking it."
        else:
            "Holly was still talking with Ivy's friend, Mark. Judging by their body language, it seemed clear Mark was making advances on her..."
            "But I wasn't sure Holly was all that comfortable with it."
            if lena_holly_sex:
                "Seeing that guy hitting on Holly made me feel the sting of jealousy."
But in one version Holly opts to hook up with Mark at this point, and in the other she remains on the fence, so Lena's intervention can either lower Holly/Mark to 1 or to 0, depending on that factor.
 

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Hmm no clue, and unfortunately i don't have older builds of the game to check the older script versions. The difference is fairly subtle on the surface, just couple of text lines going different in Ch.10:
Python:
        if holly_guy and lena_holly_sex == False:
            $ holly_guy = 2
            "Holly was still talking with Ivy's friend, Mark. Judging by their body language, it seemed clear Mark was making advances on her..."
            "And I had the impression she wasn't disliking it."
        else:
            "Holly was still talking with Ivy's friend, Mark. Judging by their body language, it seemed clear Mark was making advances on her..."
            "But I wasn't sure Holly was all that comfortable with it."
            if lena_holly_sex:
                "Seeing that guy hitting on Holly made me feel the sting of jealousy."
But in one version Holly opts to hook up with Mark at this point, and in the other she remains on the fence, so Lena's intervention can either lower Holly/Mark to 1 or to 0, depending on that factor.
What happens if you keep that guy variable low but don't interrupt? Does it increase or remain the same?
 

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So far their interactions have been so few and far between a rivalry wouldn't go far. But yeah, if somehow they all end up on the Wildcats it could get some juice.
i feel i missed something,there is scene of lena and cindy doing photoshoot but there nothing with ivy? it seem ivy focusing more on pole dancing untill now
 

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What happens if you keep that guy variable low but don't interrupt? Does it increase or remain the same?
Holly will basically stick to the decision she's made at this point:
Python:
            "Leave them to it":
                if holly_guy != 2:
                    $ holly_guy = 1
                if holly_change < 5:
                    $ holly_change += 1
                if holly_guy and lena_holly_sex == False:
                    "I decided it was best if I left them to it. Holly surely could handle herself, and I didn't want to interrupt."
                else:
                    "I decided it was best if I left them to it. I trusted Holly to handle herself; she was an adult after all."
                    if lena_holly_sex:
                        "Besides, I didn't want to act like a jealous and over-protective friend..."
If she decided she'd hook up with Mark then she will, if she and Lena had sex (meaning the holly_guy is at most at 1) then she'll be hesitant, and Lena gets option to influence the decision later:
Python:
        elif holly_guy == 1:
//...
            menu:
                "{image=icon_lust.webp}+{image=icon_charisma.webp}Push Holly" if lena_lust > 6 and lena_charisma > 6 or v8_holly_sex == "lenaivy":
                    $ holly_guy = 2
//...
                "{image=icon_charisma.webp}Let Holly decide" if lena_charisma > 5:
//...
                    if holly_change == 5:
                        $ holly_guy = 2
//...
                        jump v10hollylikesmark
                    else:
                        h "I... I don't know. If I got to know him better, maybe..."
//...
                        v "Jeez... Alright, but don't come asking for my help when months go by and you still haven't found a guy to get laid with."
                        jump v10ivyhollyleaves
//...
                "Protect Holly":
                    $ holly_guy = 0
//...
                    jump v10hollyrejectmark
I guess i should include this bit in the initial list. The choice here is to Let Holly decide if you want her to leave for the evening but not block things entirely. If her change is low then she won't opt to hook up on her own.
 

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Holly will basically stick to the decision she's made at this point:
Python:
            "Leave them to it":
                if holly_guy != 2:
                    $ holly_guy = 1
                if holly_change < 5:
                    $ holly_change += 1
                if holly_guy and lena_holly_sex == False:
                    "I decided it was best if I left them to it. Holly surely could handle herself, and I didn't want to interrupt."
                else:
                    "I decided it was best if I left them to it. I trusted Holly to handle herself; she was an adult after all."
                    if lena_holly_sex:
                        "Besides, I didn't want to act like a jealous and over-protective friend..."
If she decided she'd hook up with Mark then she will, if she and Lena had sex (meaning the holly_guy is at most at 1) then she'll be hesitant, and Lena gets option to influence the decision later:
Python:
        elif holly_guy == 1:
//...
            menu:
                "{image=icon_lust.webp}+{image=icon_charisma.webp}Push Holly" if lena_lust > 6 and lena_charisma > 6 or v8_holly_sex == "lenaivy":
                    $ holly_guy = 2
//...
                "{image=icon_charisma.webp}Let Holly decide" if lena_charisma > 5:
//...
                    if holly_change == 5:
                        $ holly_guy = 2
//...
                        jump v10hollylikesmark
                    else:
                        h "I... I don't know. If I got to know him better, maybe..."
//...
                        v "Jeez... Alright, but don't come asking for my help when months go by and you still haven't found a guy to get laid with."
                        jump v10ivyhollyleaves
//...
                "Protect Holly":
                    $ holly_guy = 0
//...
                    jump v10hollyrejectmark
I guess i should include this bit in the initial list. The choice here is to Let Holly decide if you want her to leave for the evening but not block things entirely. If her change is low then she won't opt to hook up on her own.

is this the UMR mode?
 
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