VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

I became curious about something of the Ian/Lena route, if someone here would like to tell me. In my playthrough they aren't a thing but by now they share most of the roster of characters.

For me Ian has never met Louise and Stan, Lena's roomies, which makes sense of course. I find it curious that he never encountered Jeremy with Louise though.
Does he encounter them and get agenda pages for them when he dates Lena?
I also think the only Ian-characters that Lena hasn't met in my save are the gym buddies, besides Jeremy, and Cherry. Do any of them feature in Lena's life through dating Ian?
Lena can meet Alison in the initial café date, if you disregard Holly, but do they meet again if Lena dates Ian?

 

[Sherka]

I feel so guilty about doing this to my man Perry, but Emma is so irresistible

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[Sakura Haruno]

Any pics of the wardrobe change and piercing? Idk if I got this option

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[BlandChili]

Thank you! I'm guessing this didn't happen for me because I didn't tell her she could dress better?

I think the thing that triggered it for me was complimenting Cherry's clothing when at the fortress, you need lust points for that I think. Up to that point I had only complimented Alison.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

I’m very curious what options await Holly on that shopping trip!

 

[BlandChili]

I’m very curious what options await Holly on that shopping trip!

Me too. I just had a look at two of my different save files, one where Lena encourages her to do poledancing (leading her to encounter Ivy more) and one where she didn't (leading her to encoutner Louise). I noticed in the last save file in ch. 7 before the narrative switched back to Ian, that the Ivy-path Holly had something like 15~20ish% higher friendship with Lena, almost a full bar. I'm curious if that difference is going to be made up for in ch. 8, or perhaps make a difference for further progression.

 

[D2M3]

Guys what do you think Cindy will do next?

Depends on what you did there.
1) Didnt kiss at all? Probably ended the Cindy route for good, she goes off and fucks Axel %110.
2) Kissed but listened to your common sense and stopped it there? My intuition tells me this is the only way the happy ending for Ian x Cindy is gonna happen. She'll try to hold on to Wade a while, but the kiss will burn in her mind, Wade will be even more apathetic, boom, she finally breaks it off to be with Ian.
3) Fucked in alleyway?...... This doesn't have a good ending for anyone. She'll spiral out of control from there, an explosive break up with Wade that destroys the friend group, with people taking sides, Ian having to leave Perry's place because of it, whole lot of mess.

 

[locoaceto]

so at this point, it seems pretty much confirmed that robert was indeed the guy Emma was talking about that wanted more from her......so i think Ian might fight him a third time

 

[BlandChili]

so at this point, it seems pretty much confirmed that robert was indeed the guy Emma was talking about that wanted more from her......so i think Ian might fight him a third time

Robert, living sex toy and punching bag.

 

[NateGrey]

3) Fucked in alleyway?...... This doesn't have a good ending for anyone. She'll spiral out of control from there, an explosive break up with Wade that destroys the friend group, with people taking sides, Ian having to leave Perry's place because of it, whole lot of mess.

Still worth it

 

[John Doe Jr.]

It would be great if we can make Wade watch Ian fuck Cindy. At least with phone pics.

That would be hot

 

[John Doe Jr.]

I think there will be another storyline for Wade (similar to Eric in GGGB) so Wade might change his life after getting dumped by Cindy and finding out his friend betrayed his trust. He might leave and come back more buffed up or something.

I think so too, but my Ian would have no qualms kicking his ass if he tried stepping up. Ian is getting Cindy at all costs, bro code be damned!

 

[dogedoge]

Now that we got that out of the way, can we next petition the dev for increased representation of pubic hair?

These games seem to be extremely pubephobic.

Now I can't unsee this.

 

[Gustafo]

Ok so after replaying several times i am still not sure is there any Cherry scene in 0.7 and if there is can anyone help me how to trigger it. I read all the comments and saw few people mentioned it, or is it for earlier versions?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Maybe to you. I know not all my casual conversations among friends necessarily dial to one hundred the political angle.

In this instance Ian and the gang were arguing about porn and kinks, nothing more. You would have seized the opportunity to make a political stance? Good for you (seriously, nobody said political is a dirty word, that was a straw man fallacy you played ). Others don't.

You seem to be doing in a unconscious manner when you equate it to a political discourse. One doesn't need to start preaching to show how they think, a simple conversation between friends can reveal how they see and interact with the world around. Which is what happens between them (ian and the others at the bar).

But in my playthrough Lena have sex with Robert & Mike and still get good Jess Here the save file

NOOOOOOO.....WHYYYYYYY, So to get good Jess you have to play as good Lena? Won't Lena lose her job if she don't have sex with Robert?

Yep. Probably the strangest design decision made in the game so far...

To be sure, one can do much worse for marginalized groups than simply not discussing them. That option exists and it manifests frequently in our society, not merely in high-profile instances.

And, yes, I'm glad we are having this discussion. Glad we are having it now.

One of the issues I've been reacting against here is the sentiment that we shouldn't even be voicing this criticism.

Like, much of the criticism that I've read here is not about Wade having very plausible stances on the subject, not asking that his dialogue be removed -- but instead that the player have more options to respond to Wade.

They seem to be asking for more expression, not less ..

I like this human, he understand. I would have give some likes but i am out of them for today.

So, my views on this have done a complete 180.

Last time I went through I was skipping Ian's story to get to Lena's and get her and Louise together.

Now I really can't stand Lena's story and 3 things have made me enjoy Ian's.

The thing with Lena and Louise is just so shallow and empty it's a completely pointless pairing. I'll explain. In GGGB all the lesbian romance options were fantastic. From the casual experimenting with her best friend to their falling in love, watching Ash and Jess get closer and Jess with her fantastic character growth. Even the trans romance and her character growth was fantastic to watch. All 3 were great.

There isn't a single good lesbian romance here. I don't see Ivy going anywhere, it just doesn't fit. Holly is so forced on Lena's path if you try and look at it as more than friends and after this update it's completely shit on Louise.

At one point Louise asks Lena if she shouldn't be more caring towards her after what has happened between them for Lena to just say "for what, it's just a thing that happened" and then think one morning that it's happened a bit too much. Just shit on the route completely and made it feel empty.

I also noted we have Alison with ex trouble, Lena wit ex trouble and Cherry having issues with someone she likes ... and soon to be Cindy with ex trouble. Anyone else think the ideas are running thin on what to do with characters here, it sure feels like it.

From really enjoying Lena's side to now really not liking it at all to going back and trying different things on Ian's path and finding there are 3 things that make it great.

I did start with Cherry but the whole "this guy I like where nothing ever happened turned back up and now my heads a mess" made me dismiss her completely.

Alison and her whole "I like you but I won't tell you that I like you and then i'm going to fuck your friend while still hinting I want to date you and constantly bringing up my ex .... please love me" just no.

Question to the guys, are women really like that?

I know I should know, I also date women, but lesbians tend to be quite straight forward. There are usually very few of us in one place so we need to be up front about what we want or we get nowhere. Just curious if straight women are that backwards.

As for the saving graces .... Holly, Cindy and Minerva.

Holly on Lena's route is a terrible option .... Holly on Ian's route is god tier. Cindy and Ian have had chemistry since the start and banging the bitchy boss is hella fun.

It almost feels like Lena is written by someone else completely. All of Ash's g/g stuff in GGGB was awesome .... here it's so shallow and emotionless it makes the sex scenes feel forced and didn't enjoy them. When the lesbian is saying she doesn't want to see the lesbian sex scenes you know something is wrong.

To go from one minute really liking Lena and not wanting to read Ian's half to really disliking everything about Lena and enjoying Ian's route .... it's weird. There isn't a single thing on Lena's route I enjoy while Ian has not only great stuff going on with his friends but with some of the girls.

It's weird that a female dev that did an awesome game with a fantastic female lead has come back with such a shallow female character. Can't explain that.

Before the discussion about how to better portrayal trans people in dialogue i had mentioned about how i was feeling that Lena's wasn't really much the focus of this latest update when compared to Ian.

His relationship with Minerva, all that tension and hatred between them turning into sexual energy was great. And it is nice that they are turning their dalliances into a habit.

Same with Cindy and all the heart to heart moments they have been sharing across the game so far culminating into that animalistic sex scene in the middle of the street, too bad they got caught red-handed.

Even Alisson was good if you focus on her, altought her jealousy in some moments seems like she clearly wants to be more than just FWB. She clearly has a dirty mind when it comes to sex despite her "eww porn" moment during this latest update.

Meanwhile Lena got a truth or dare game (hot but nothing much happen, just a tease), a (as you pointed out) empty relationship with Louise (she is also more clingy than i like). Don't even get me started on slimebag Roberts and while Mike isn't the same level of scumbag this affair will likely end badly when his girlfriend find out.

I was expecting some Holly content, that is why i made sure to keep Lena friendly with her but even then she isn't invited to come with Holly. Still i will hope for some development on this front next update.

Meanwhile Ivy is going the party hard/use drugs route while falling for the shady scheme of Jerome's friend. If Lena asks how he will pay his models the guy says he has no idea how and he redirects to talk about his grandiose idea of making a big model agency with his mysterious funding. It seems like it is going to be kinda hard for Lena to follow her unless going the same corruption way.

Maybe something can happen with Emma? She did offer to play with Lena and i can only hope.

Speaking from my own experiences when i'm interested in someone, what I don't do is fuck someone else and keep dropping hints i'm interested in them.

It's a bit weird.

Way I saw it, if a girl was interested in me then banged one of my friends, i'd never be able to go with them. I just find it a bit weird going where my friends have gone.

Plus if she was as interested in Ian as she says, like ready for a relationship, then she wouldn't have been fucking his friend.

The only interaction i'd had with her before going for a drink was getting a selfie and having a drink where she complained about her work and her ex. She mentioned nothing about being interested in him until after fucking Jeremy by which point it's far too late.

I took it as Alison wanting to make Ian jealous to move and go after her in the game. Still can't really say something like this happened to me in real life. I think it would be strange...

 

[Burn85]

Hello everyone. It is difficult to read a topic in a foreign language. But I read everything and did not understand how to make Jessica good. Please give detailed instructions. This is a favorite character from GGGB and should be on a good track!

 

[Reaurt]

I became curious about something of the Ian/Lena route, if someone here would like to tell me. In my playthrough they aren't a thing but by now they share most of the roster of characters.

For me Ian has never met Louise and Stan, Lena's roomies, which makes sense of course. I find it curious that he never encountered Jeremy with Louise though.
Does he encounter them and get agenda pages for them when he dates Lena?
I also think the only Ian-characters that Lena hasn't met in my save are the gym buddies, besides Jeremy, and Cherry. Do any of them feature in Lena's life through dating Ian?
Lena can meet Alison in the initial café date, if you disregard Holly, but do they meet again if Lena dates Ian?

None of the characters you mention (Louise and Stan; Gym buddies and Cherry) are encountered in a dating route between Ian and Lena so far, and don't show up in the Agenda.

 

[Reaurt]

Is there any Ian+Cerry stuff? I couldn't find it

Not in this chapter (Ch 7). There are scenes in previous chapters.

 

[Avaron1974]

Before the discussion about how to better portrayal trans people in dialogue i had mentioned about how i was feeling that Lena's wasn't really much the focus of this latest update when compared to Ian.

His relationship with Minerva, all that tension and hatred between them turning into sexual energy was great. And it is nice that they are turning their dalliances into a habit.

Same with Cindy and all the heart to heart moments they have been sharing across the game so far culminating into that animalistic sex scene in the middle of the street, too bad they got caught red-handed.

Even Alisson was good if you focus on her, altought her jealousy in some moments seems like she clearly wants to be more than just FWB. She clearly has a dirty mind when it comes to sex despite her "eww porn" moment during this latest update.

Meanwhile Lena got a truth or dare game (hot but nothing much happen, just a tease), a (as you pointed out) empty relationship with Louise (she is also more clingy than i like). Don't even get me started on slimebag Roberts and while Mike isn't the same level of scumbag this affair will likely end badly when his girlfriend find out.

I was expecting some Holly content, that is why i made sure to keep Lena friendly with her but even then she isn't invited to come with Holly. Still i will hope for some development on this front next update.

Meanwhile Ivy is going the party hard/use drugs route while falling for the shady scheme of Jerome's friend. If Lena asks how he will pay his models the guy says he has no idea how and he redirects to talk about his grandiose idea of making a big model agency with his mysterious funding. It seems like it is going to be kinda hard for Lena to follow her unless going the same corruption way.

Maybe something can happen with Emma? She did offer to play with Lena and i can only hope.

Up until this update and some of the last I quite enjoyed Lena's route with Louise, they were cute together and I thought it was going to go places instead it turns into Lena almost dismissing her and Louise getting clingy as fuck. The middle ground that had been building as instantly shat on and made that route look terrible.

I liked Ivy but don't see any outcome where she isn't a cracked up cumdump. Started off she came across as quite intelligent and street smart which was suddenly thrown out of the window and recent updates made her look dense and clueless.

I haven't played any male romance options, not my thing but even without going down their routes they seem like creeps.

It's weird, to go from an amazing character like Ash in GGGB with so many branching choices and well done romances to Lena who's shallow, vapid, bordering moronic at times and no good romance options. The 2 lesbian options in GGGB were fantastic from the slow experimenting with her best friend to Jess and her fantastic character growth to then read this and get "i'm lonely, wanna fuck" and that's the whole depth to Lena and Louise.

It legit feels like a completely different writer. There is just no depth to Lena or her "love life" term used very loosely.

I'll see how it goes with Emma and Holly going on. Her route deff needs a lot, a LOT, of work. She's lagging so far behind Ian on both friend interaction and romance it's unreal.

Then you have Ian who has a great thing with Alison if you go her route (ranted enough on the other path). Cindy and the build up there was great. The whole thing with Minerva is well done and his stuff with Holly is adorable.

I gave up on Cherry and scrapped that after the "i'm hung up on a guy i've never done anything with" nonsense.

I haven't tried Emma's route yet either.

 

[xsssssssss]

Depends on what you did there.
1) Didnt kiss at all? Probably ended the Cindy route for good, she goes off and fucks Axel %110.
2) Kissed but listened to your common sense and stopped it there? My intuition tells me this is the only way the happy ending for Ian x Cindy is gonna happen. She'll try to hold on to Wade a while, but the kiss will burn in her mind, Wade will be even more apathetic, boom, she finally breaks it off to be with Ian.
3) Fucked in alleyway?...... This doesn't have a good ending for anyone. She'll spiral out of control from there, an explosive break up with Wade that destroys the friend group, with people taking sides, Ian having to leave Perry's place because of it, whole lot of mess.

I hope that’s not the case. I don’t want to remain chaste with Cindy to get good end or be punished with a bad ending by pursuing sex. There’s going to be friendship drama regardless imo in Cindy route