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wow evakiss release a new game, looks like the fans are really growing, i'll give a try, look like the art is big step up from the goodgone bad
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Just finished ch7 and damn, I was trying to be faithful to our female protag but Holly is just so damned adorable, could not turn her down. I did have my female protag kiss her, after I decided both of my main characters would not sleep with anyone else(not long after my main male character buried his cock in Emma's backyard). I am all for my female protag getting it on with any of the girls, but not taking any dong besides the MMC. Kinda hoping the two mains and Holly can be a throuple.
The struggle is very real
Although my Ian and Lena are pretty casual (and therefore seeing others on the side), I had hoped to keep their relationship with Holly as drama-free as I could. So, the three of them can get together in the smoothest way possible.
But my Ian completely caved in to Holly's doe-eyed stares. Judging by the Ian's monologue at the end of the scene, I'm guessing things won't be that much of a smooth sail for the trio after this.
I just hope there is an option where he can be honest to Holly, about his relation with Lena, irrespective of the consequences.
- Jun 14, 2017
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I always put him down in my first playthrough because he looked exactly like Jeb!.
There's no way Eva didn't model the dad from him, his face looks identical.
- Dec 4, 2017
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If you kiss her but don't go all the way, then Ian tells Holly about his relationship with Lena.
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sry for bad readability, lots of text
TL;DR : Is Ivy a Sociopath?
Antisocial personality disorder aka Sociopathy
Source: english Wikipedia, Signs and Symptoms of Antisocial personality disorder; my annotations in brackets
Antisocial personality disorder is defined by a pervasive and persistent disregard for morals, social norms, and the rights and feelings of others.
[This]
Individuals with this personality disorder will typically have no compunction in exploiting others in harmful ways for their own gain or pleasure and frequently manipulate and deceive other people.
[Truth and Dare? i dont have this event i my playthrough]
While some do so through a façade of superficial charm, others do so through intimidation and violence.
They may display arrogance, think lowly and negatively of others, and lack remorse for their harmful actions and have a callous attitude to those they have harmed.
[charming, arrogant, no remorse and callous towards Louise]
Irresponsibility is a core characteristic of this disorder; most have significant difficulties in maintaining stable employment as well as fulfilling their social and financial obligations, and people with this disorder often lead exploitative, unlawful, or parasitic lifestyles.
Those with antisocial personality disorder are often impulsive and reckless, failing to consider or disregarding the consequences of their actions.
[does not care how sexworking (e.g. stalkfapping) will affect her future, working with Billy on a whim]
They may repeatedly disregard and jeopardize their own safety and the safety of others, which can place both themselves and other people in danger.
[driving her convertible with passengers on drugs]
They are often aggressive and hostile, with poorly regulated tempers, and can lash out violently with provocation or frustration.
[showing Louise Jeremys dick pic, she could have resolved this situation in other ways]
Individuals are prone to substance abuse and addiction, and the abuse of various psychoactive substances is common in this population.
[she takes Designer Drugs, and i dont think its her first time]
Serious problems with interpersonal relationships are often seen in those with the disorder.
People with antisocial personality disorder usually form poor attachments and emotional bonds, and interpersonal relationships often revolve around the exploitation and abuse of others.
They may have difficulties in sustaining and maintaining relationships, and some have difficulty entering them.
[leading a promiscuous life, probably unable to form a monogamous relationship]
the german Wikipedia also does mention functional vs authentic empathy, whereas Psychopaths lack empathy completely and Sociopaths are able to possess the functional but lacking the authentic one.
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i was always a bit set off by the fact that Ivy, although Lenas oldest friend, never says something like: "i am glad for you" or "i can understand where you are coming from" or "if this is your choice i support you, although i see things differently."
instead she nearly always tries to impose her own views on Lena.
in her own twisted way Ivy does seem to
i am not on a Crusade versus Ivy, i was just wondering why i am so opposed to her; imho she checks a surprisingly big number of the symptoms mentioned above.
Your thoughts?
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- she's a soulless bitch (who needs a sidekick)
- she's a "material girl" (no I'm not singing a Madonna song of the 80's no mate not me!)
- she has her own dark and troubled past - her own soul was crushed once before - she needs another's innocence as a reminder
- idem but at some point she'll get her soul back thru friendship. (or not)
- she's an angel in disguise and exactly what Lena needs. (Lena wants to be bitchy)
5only God (and Evakiss) knows her true purpose (or different optional paths)
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i think its mentioned that Lena and Ivy were schoolmates and Ivy was already a Loner and segregated from the other pupils.
Lena was her only friend back then, this would fit with a troubled childhood.
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no?
She really only ever is mean to Louise who is a pretty mean person herself, so I can understand where that is coming from.
For me the only questionmark on her character are her dealings with Axel. We don't know (yet) what that is about but it is imagineable that she is manipulating Lena to go back to Axel. It's her who suggests to meet Axel one final time, where Axel behaves calmly as she predicted but still manages to get his foot back into her, well, dreams by hiding the photos in her books.
Fully agree.
Cindy has been called (in game and out of it) spoiled, selfish and bitchy, but I don't think that's a fair judgement at all. High maintenance? For sure, and not only -not even mainly, I think- regarding the money side of things: she demands attention and someone to be alive with, do things, have fun. Not everybody is as accomodating as, let's say, Holly; what's wrong with that?
In exchange I think she has a lot to offer: she's a lively drop dead gorgeous girl who's also fun to be with, not as shallow as could seem at first sight, with diverse interests and also some degree of empathy (not as for example Ivy barring Lena), not at all tame (Holly), without excesive emotional baggage (Lena), and not too self-absorved and whiny (Alison: the lady doth protest too much, methinks).
Problem? Well, Wade of course. But forgetting him I think is fair to say she's (almost) perfect girlfriend material for Ian.
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She's pretty mean to Minerva too. Not to her face though. Normally, I'd not lose sleep over people being mean to Minerva because she is pretty vile herself. But Ivy does not know that. She does seem to place an inordinate amount of value on youth, beauty and sexiness all of which are ephemeral. That is perhaps the only complaint I have against her. Or maybe it is Eva creating a complex character, I guess.
- May 26, 2017
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Behind the scenes art process: Ivy's game
This scene was one that I had in mind even before starting to work on Chapter 1. As I was finishing GGGB I began writing some ideas in a notebook under the title "Red String Project", defining what kind of character types and dynamics I wanted to include. And Ivy luring Lena, Louise and Jeremy into a heated drinking game was one of the first scenes I came up with and I knew I had to include it at some point. At first I thought I could slot it in in Chapter 3, but soon it became clear it was way too soon. I've been pushing it back chapter after chapter until it was finally time to write it!
I had a general idea of what I wanted the scene to be and what story beats I wanted to push forward with it, being mainly the relationship between Jeremy and the girls, his "girlfriend", Ivy and if the player so chose, Lena. But the specifics were up in the air until the last minute. I had a version where Stan would join the game is Louise and Jeremy had already split up, or maybe I could make him participate either way, but that meant that the scene had to take place at Lena's place instead of Ivy's, and the plot structure became too convoluted and other problems made it hard to make it work. This scene had so much potential and in the end I had to compromise and cut some ideas out, but as they say, sometimes less is more and knowing what to trim is often as important as knowing what to include.
In the end, I think the scene is fun and interesting and serves it's purpose well enough. It was a really challenging one to write, coming up with interesting dares, structuring the character interactions and giving the player some interesting choices to interact with the scene. I still wish I could've added more, but if GGGB taught me something is that I tend to tackle more than I can handle and that can end up hurting the game, so I'm trying to be more mindful of how I structure things.
Visually, I really wanted this scene to pop, that's why I decided to place it in Ivy's home. The purple lightning allows me to create a cool and sexy ambience, and this set-piece has a few of my favourite drawings so far.
I have some other cool scenes in mind that I can't wait to develop, but I'm learning to be patient. Chapter 7 had a lot of scenes I had been wanting to work on from the start, and there's still a few left that have been waiting since the idea for ORS was conceived. I hope I can share them with you soon!
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Competely agree with this. She's got some positive characters traits, and some negative – just like every other character in this game is constructed.
At the end of the last chapter, when Ian goes after her, she says "Am I so unlikeable that I have to beg people to go out partying with me?", and I think that sums it up well. The lack of partying probably isn't the problem in itself, it's just one very specific thing she's expressing some bigger issues through. She just wants something to happen, and when Wade and the others always say no, she feels rejected and unlikeable. She probably just need someone to convice her that she's still likeable and fun, and that's why she's so hungry for the attention Axel and/or Ian offer her.
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I have no problem with Cindy but I am not a gentleman(I do not prefer blondes), I am a sucker for a redhead and almost every IRL girl that I have dated was a brunette. I think I might just have a type. So in my playthrough, I have narrowed my MMC down to the FMC and Holly. My FMC I have not let her take any dick besides the MMC but every lesbian option, she is all on that. FWIW, I am saying MMC and FMC because I applied the mod to allow renaming. I only renamed 4 characters though, the MMC, FMC, the cat(named after a cat I once owned) and the magazine boss, now named CUNT. That last one makes for some fun dialogue.
General question, do we know if Cindy going to be a major character moving forward (on the level of Alison)? Honestly they are both so hot, but I don't want to miss out on more content if I pick Cindy
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I assume you mean in regards to the amount of sex scenes? It might depend a bit on how Cindy's route develops and the impact on her and Wade's relationship, but I can't imagine we'll be missing out a whole lot.
Ian has something of a theme that he has to pick between girls, so I'd be surprised if there isn't an upcoming choice between Alison and Cindy eventually, but I don't think you'll have to pick between them just yet.
- Oct 8, 2019
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why there's traceback error in this game?
fortunately I found solution in this thread to ignore 5-6 times.
fortunately I found solution in this thread to ignore 5-6 times.
- Dec 29, 2017
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your assessment of Cindy and the girls is very spot on. kudos for that.
Before Wade was retconned (? i am not familiar with this term) to unemployed, i could very much relate to him and his failing relationship.
He had it all already: a stable 9-5 Job, living in his own appartment with his beautiful girlfriend and some dudes to hang out or play online Games with if he would choose so. the occasional fuck if he gets horny.
shamefully i have to admit that i (and lots of guys out there, if they are honest) would probably get as complacent as him, even more so in a longer relationship you tend to take things for granted.
Part of the fun in Ian x Cindy is for me to treat her better than i would probably treat her in reality.
Cindy is a reminder that you have to constantly work on your relationship, to constantly fight for your girl, else you will eventually loose her or end in a relationship whose fire has burned down; that being a lazy couchpotato will just not cut it.
Not everybody is as accomodating as, let's say, Holly.
Yes, that's true, most girls aren't.
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being a sociopath is not about being mean, that is just one possible expression of the underlying issues.
Louise merely annoyed her and she reacted with being mean to her, many of us would do so too, although perhaps not in the same way Ivy did. showing Jeremys dick pic to everybody compromised him also, obviously disregarding the effect this could have on the other persons present. she could have shown it exclusively to Louise, thus sparing Jeremy the embarrassment in front of the whole group, or just keep on bitching or whatever else girls do when they get into a fight. but she chose the biggest weapon (literally
) with the broadest impact.Since i haven't seen the Truth and Dare Game in my Playthrough i don't know how she orchestrated that one. Perhaps someone here can share his/her/their impression on this one.
We have yet to see how she will react if someone really angers her or actually threatens her. i do not expect her to be just mean then.
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i expect Cindy to be promoted to a major character (if she not alreay is) regarding her fanbase in the ORS community, demoting her to a side character would be a self-harming move for EvaKiss. since choices in ORS really do matter, you can't get all content in one playthrough (this is what meaningful choices are). no one can say yet in which way this tradeoff will affect the IanxAllison Path.