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I feel like expanding Jeremy's role to be more broad in terms of characterisation and availability to Lena is almost too late at this point?
Like, the people that enjoy the BBC kink over anything else are probably already playing his route at this point, which arguably requires for Lena to become a pretty bad person, not just withholding his cheating but becoming Louise's "homewrecker" too.

Any additions would either have to mesh with these events, or be an entirely new Lena/Jeremy route exclusive to players who broke them up early. While I would personally find this option more interesting, I doubt it would go over well with the kink community that there'd be scenes unavailable depending on that kind of choice, so I don't think Eva would go that way.

I suppose there could be random romance added to the Jeremy route, but that sort of seems counter to the structure around it so far. Like, wouldn't it be kinda tacked on?
It's interesting in general how many Routes are too late to be explored at this Point of the Game. We still don't know how many Chapters this Game will have and how much Time is left for completely new Routes for Ian and Lena. There are a lot of Routes with established Characters that have no Progress at all unitil this Point (Ed, Seymour, Stan and even some real Scenes with Axel for Lena and also Ivy and maybe even Louise for Ian) Some of these potential Routes are definitely teased and maybe even starting to build up at this Point.

And with Jeremy I think Chapter 7 and 8 clearly progressed this Route for Lena a lot so I think a real Romance Route with Jeremy could happen if it gets more and more developed in the next Chapters.
 

Tarmogo

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Besides it would probably end up being the same scenes since a dating lena/ian have the same scenes as a hookup lena/ian dont they? well roughly, it's moreso the context around the scenes that change if my memory serves me right.
That's right. The scenes are still the same in terms of art and the point at which they occur in the game, but the tone and context of the scenes change depending on the status of their relationship.
 
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Rickster82

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I felt the second possible sex between Ian & Lena (when she had 3 orgasms) very intense and great.
The second possible sex after the visit to the Shine between Ian & Alison was also great.

Jeremy was never an option for me, rather a marginal phenomenon. Tried as best I could to keep women away from him. Useless and exchangeable!

P.S. No, I'm not a racist. ;)
 

BlandChili

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As for the other point there is no way people into bbc content would be mad about eva adding new bbc content that wouldn't be in the game otherwise, content exclusive to a new route is better than it not being added at all.
You sure? I feel like I see people moan fairly often about not being able to get all scenes in one playthrough, like some xbox achievement. I'll take your word for it ;)
It's interesting in general how many Routes are too late to be explored at this Point of the Game. We still don't know how many Chapters this Game will have and how much Time is left for completely new Routes for Ian and Lena. There are a lot of Routes with established Characters that have no Progress at all unitil this Point (Ed, Seymour, Stan and even some real Scenes with Axel for Lena and also Ivy and maybe even Louise for Ian) Some of these potential Routes are definitely teased and maybe even starting to build up at this Point.
Yeah, true, and I have also speculated about possible Lena/Wade-or-Perry before, which would need some build-up of its own.
And with Jeremy I think Chapter 7 and 8 clearly progressed this Route for Lena a lot so I think a real Romance Route with Jeremy could happen if it gets more and more developed in the next Chapters.
I suppose. I just feel like there should be a romantic hook to their pairing by now, my impression of there Jeremy/Lena route is the opposite, abandonment of romantic notions and giving in to base desires.
 

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I felt the second possible sex between Ian & Lena (when she had 3 orgasms) very intense and great.
The second possible sex after the visit to the Shine between Ian & Alison was also great.

Jeremy was never an option for me, rather a marginal phenomenon. Tried as best I could to keep women away from him. Useless and exchangeable!

P.S. No, I'm not a racist. ;)
That Ian/Lena scene you're talking about is my personal favorite of the game so far. Felt like an excellent payoff to what was built up before it.

I don't think anyone would believe you're a racist for voicing your opinion lol. There are many reasons to dislike Jeremy, but race certainly shouldn't be one of them.
 

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Jeremy is the worst side character ever, I've played already two different paths in my game but none of them I've chosen him. IMO he's so lame and only cares about his dick. He always wants to get inside the pants of the girls Ian's going for, that's not so friendly.
 
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Rickster82

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I don't think anyone would believe you're a racist for voicing your opinion lol. There are many reasons to dislike Jeremy, but race certainly shouldn't be one of them.
In times like this (BLM etc.) you have to be careful what you say against people (whether real or fictional) who have different skin color.
 

BlandChili

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In times like this (BLM etc.) you have to be careful what you say against people (whether real or fictional) who have different skin color.
Do you? It's not that common that people add PSA's to their comments on here as far as I can tell :ROFLMAO:
 

Albaduldür

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Patrons don't own the right to influence the direction of the game just because they donate - they only own the right to what the artist offers in that tier, and the whole idea is to support the artist so they can continue to make content at all. It's just that a couple of devs who use Patreon and don't have a strong direction, or are easily swayed, or care more about the money then any particular vision they have, will let the Patrons direct them. Most of those types of games end up either never getting finished - using the Patrons as little more then bottomless cash cows - or result in a game that's of relatively low quality cos it pulls in a million different directions without focusing on the story's structure, and on forwarding and bolstering the central plot.

Personally I think Jeremy - as he is right now, and from my current experience playing - is little more then a bland stereotype, and no amount of BBC makes up for that. Not that Jeremy is beyond saving, but until he actually gets a personality and makes me care about him in some significant way, I'd prefer Ian a million times over.

But that's just my opinion on it.
You're right on the first part but devs need money to continue their project.
And Patrons are best willing to donate if they can contribute to the game (in terms of decision making) and get what they want from it.
 

Albaduldür

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Don't get me wrong of course do patreons have the right to influence the Story since they are paying for it but I think it should stay this way - influence not change. I will respect every decision the Game will go but I just hope it makes sense for the Story and is still something Eva has at least planned herself.
I don't see how Eva is totally changing her game....she's just making sure her Patrons get more involved in the process.
 

Albaduldür

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I felt the second possible sex between Ian & Lena (when she had 3 orgasms) very intense and great.
The second possible sex after the visit to the Shine between Ian & Alison was also great.

Jeremy was never an option for me, rather a marginal phenomenon. Tried as best I could to keep women away from him. Useless and exchangeable!

P.S. No, I'm not a racist. ;)
I don't see how that can be racist.
You people should stop saying you're not racist when it's not needed.
Peace
 

dundun

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While EvaKiss won't change storylines in the game over a patreon poll, characters can clearly gain more (and less) prominence. I doubt that Arthur was going to play such a big role in GGGB and even when she liked to write Doug he still vanished from the game. Also anyone remembers Robert? Early on EvaKiss even rewrote him to make him more sympathetic so he could be a 'good' romance option for Lena. It's no coincidence that he is now in the doghouse while a random hunk like Mike got promoted to a full romance. Btw, he is fighting 'Alison sexting' for last place right now :(
 
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Jeremy is the worst side character ever, I've played already two different paths in my game but none of them I've chosen him. IMO he's so lame and only cares about his dick. He always wants to get inside the pants of the girls Ian's going for, that's not so friendly.
Nah, its Perry. Cockblocking himself is one thing. Ratting Ian out if he fucks Cherry is quite another. Fuck that guy, seriously. What a shit room-mate.


Well, the Patrons have their own right to kinda influence the development because they pay for the game.
If the majority of them lean towards that direction you gotta respect it.

But aside from that matter.......Jeremy's BBC is all Lena wants.
Ian deserves to be cucked ahahahahahaahah

As I have said before, bow down to Jeremy's glorious manhood! :cool:;)
I'm Eva's patron and I would in no way assume to have any real influence on development. In fact, I hope the opposite that in spite of my money. Eva is not guided by people investing in her game development.

Tbh, I'm not a fan of the Ian/Lena route at all. Ever since the 6th Chapter, I've replayed the game with the two never dating or hooking up. While their sex scenes are hot, the game does play better overall for both without the two having a relationship.
 

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Is the game GGGB just about a female main character? I heard about it but never played it. The title sounds a little bit like a story where you can choose the path of a girl (good + loyal or bad + slutty).
 

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Btw, he is fighting 'Alison sexting' for last place right now
This was so funny to me, I don't think anyone is playing extrictly for the sexting scenes but Robert dude, you gotta change your game or you'll end up losing to Jeremy's dick pics :KEK:
 
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I feel like expanding Jeremy's role to be more broad in terms of characterisation and availability to Lena is almost too late at this point?
Like, the people that enjoy the BBC kink over anything else are probably already playing his route at this point, which arguably requires for Lena to become a pretty bad person, not just withholding his cheating but becoming Louise's "homewrecker" too.

Any additions would either have to mesh with these events, or be an entirely new Lena/Jeremy route exclusive to players who broke them up early. While I would personally find this option more interesting, I doubt it would go over well with the kink community that there'd be scenes unavailable depending on that kind of choice, so I don't think Eva would go that way.

I suppose there could be random romance added to the Jeremy route, but that sort of seems counter to the structure around it so far. Like, wouldn't it be kinda tacked on?
I don't see how having Jeremy show some personality would in any way get in the way of the BBC Kink, nor necessarily need to instigate a romance path? The content is only meant to flesh out his existing potential. That sort of characterization could quite easily fit into Ian's everyday path where he just happens to be hanging out with Jeremy - no need to change anything that already exists.

There are ways to do it that could feel perfectly natural, you just have to be creative about it. The easiest way would be to have some sort of event that 'provokes' the deeply buried nerd in Jeremy to rear his head.

For example, there could be something like a movie franchise Ian's group (of guy friends?) loved as teens appearing at a convention or something. Ian and his friends all go there, including Jeremy. While Perry, Wade and [potentially a nerdy] Ian are all excited, Jeremy is unusually quiet, but when you all discover that one of the major stars of the last installment (that Jeremey happened to really like) is there signing autographs, something snaps and Jeremy is suddenly a teen again, nerding out about meeting one of his favorite actors and whatnot.

Or it could be something that challenges Jeremy's knowledge of a topic or topics he used to be a master in. So like, maybe something like a quiz night at that old bar or whatever, and Jeremy isn't big on going but eventually agrees when Ian insists, and Jeremy's group absolutely kills it because he knows the answer to every single question.

After either of those scenarios you could have Ian walking with Jeremy (just the two of them), and Ian comments on how he hasn't seen that side of Jeremy in ages. That could then be the point where it gives a bit of an insight into why Jeremy is the way he is now, because if this kind of deep-and-personal is gonna happen with anyone, it's with his best friend, Ian.

For example, in the case of the convention or getting too nerdy over that franchise, it could be that there was a girl who Jeremy really liked back in the day - like, a massive crush - and she rejected him and laughed in his face for being a nerd when he asked her to see a movie in that franchise, or IDK. Point is, he has low self-esteem and was weak willed, and her rejection in front of everyone was so humiliating he threw away all his memorabilia of that series and buried his love of it deep down, and then decided to get hot so he could laugh in her face.

In the case of the quiz, you could have Jeremy talk about how his parents always pushed him to be the best in school or whatever, and it put him under so much pressure that the moment he struck out on his own he completely turned his back on his parents expectations for him. In other words, Jeremy became a chad to rebel, but then found he liked the perks, like getting girls, and thinking too much or being too smart put them off, so he pushed down the nerd in him and tried to embrace the life of a chad. Or whatever.

Anyway, those ideas may be shite, but they serve the purpose of demonstrating how you can give a character a bit of depth even quite a way through - just make it he's pushed his true self down pretty deep, and something just happens to trigger it.

From there you could choose to make his old nerd self start to come out more as he finds people around him are cool with it (cos secretly being self-conscious about his personality could be part of his personality), and by the end either he's a full-on nerd again, or he's buried it down deep, OR, he's managed to find a healthy balance between being a chad and enjoying his nerdy pleasures.

I mean, considering both Eva's games have such a focus on being able to transform characters, no reason it can't happen with Jeremy in the same way as certain other characters - providing players make certain choices.

When you think about it, Jeremy's potential transformation back to a nerd would be the reverse to Ian's potential journey into a chad. That could be kinda interesting too.
 
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