VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.2 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[mannice431]

I'm kinda interested in the MMA Ian route ngl, if you can build up Ian to be a nicer version of Jack from GGGB that'd be baller.

 

[godoff95]

Well, considering there is a distinct choice between having sex with Cindy, getting seen, etc - the sexual route - and kissing her and just leaving it there - the romance route - I'm guessing there would be two possible ways it could go.

The sexual route is the one where you know what you're doing is hella wrong but don't really care and do it anyway because you want to. It shouldn't be surprising if Ian loses Wade's friendship on this path (probably also Perry's, and quite possibly becomes ostracized from his friend's group) considering how little he cared about Wade as a friend to do it in the first place. That seems pretty fair to me. Perhaps depending on how Ian goes about it and the exact depth of Cindy's connection to Ian when Wade finds out could be the difference between whether Cindy continues to see Ian or whether she breaks it off completely because she can't handle the guilt.

On the romance side, if Ian stopped after kissing her in that alley, they could both chalk the kiss up as a 'mistake' or 'one-off' despite the fact that they both wanted it, like each other, and would love to do it again. The tension grows between them, but they take no action on it until Cindy and Wade naturally break up, after which Ian and Cindy get together. Now, Wade and Perry would probably still have a pretty bad reaction to this, but at least this way Ian isn't blatantly working against Wade while he's still with Cindy, so he'd probably get over it in time (though it would probably take most of the rest of the game).

EDIT: This is also taking into account that the player has sabotaged Wade and Cindy's relationship score at every turn so they've very little reason to stay together by the time Cindy and Ian have their moment. I'm not sure what happens if Cindy and Wade's relationship stat is still 'okay' (not great, but okay) - whether it will be enough for Cindy to stay with Wade or not. I've never tried it myself.

In the last chapter, Cindy posts a happy selfie with wade. I guess Ian isher dildo.

 

[TamaMountain]

Still no threesome with Allison and Jeremy?

Not yet. Personally I can't wait for it.

I think Eva has an opportunity here for some really hot dialogue. Since Alison can seem a bit prudish compared to the rest of Ian's gang (when they were talking about Perry's porn addiction for instance), it would be interesting to see how Ian convinces Alison to do a threesome together with Jeremy.

I feel Eva's greatest strength is the buildup to the sex scenes rather than the actual sex. Her dialogue often sets the scene up really well. I hope this doesn't disappoint.

 

[Rickster82]

Jeremy = supernumerary

 

[godoff95]

Not yet. Personally I can't wait for it.

I think Eva has an opportunity here for some really hot dialogue. Since Alison can seem a bit prudish compared to the rest of Ian's gang (when they were talking about Perry's porn addiction for instance), it would be interesting to see how Ian convinces Alison to do a threesome together with Jeremy.

I feel Eva's greatest strength is the buildup to the sex scenes rather than the actual sex. Her dialogue often sets the scene up really well. I hope this doesn't disappoint.

I feel like Alison would comply only in the Ian chad route, ie where Jeremy succeds to sleep with her. Otherwise, she only cares about Ian.

 

[MattyJuk]

Hoping for some Lena & Ed/Seymour action in the next couple of updates

 

[Reasoon]

I feel like Alison would comply only in the Ian chad route, ie where Jeremy succeds to sleep with her. Otherwise, she only cares about Ian.

Exactly!

 

[JamieSadistic]

I'm kinda interested in the MMA Ian route ngl, if you can build up Ian to be a nicer version of Jack from GGGB that'd be baller.

I'm interested in that route as well. My main playthrough is focused on getting away from Jeremy, because I see a direct correlation between Jeremy from ORS and Jack from GGGB. I despised Jack from the start of GGGB and it's kind of the same for Jeremy. Even though he seems to be a bit more "bro" status for Ian... He still rubs me the wrong way.
Further touching on the MMA route, I think it would be awesome if during the MMA tournament, Ian and Jeremy face off and we have a chance to beat the shit outta him.

 

[Zedire]

In the last chapter, Cindy posts a happy selfie with wade. I guess Ian isher dildo.

Err... I think you sorta misunderstood what Cindy was doing there.
After Cindy and Ian had their moment -- either a kiss or sex -- Cindy freaked out, which would be a pretty natural response to that 'spur of the moment' acting on her feelings. She tried to backtrack and attempt to 'fix' her relationship with Wade by going off on a romantic weekend. Seeing as Ian followed her social media, she knew he would see it when she posted that selfie, and did it to give the impression that what had happened between Ian and her meant nothing (to him) and that she and Wade were going great (to the rest of her friends who knew about her fight with Wade at the club).
It was a desperate act, and even Perry caught on to it, saying something like 'doesn't it seem like their relationship is a bit beyond fixing?', or something to that effect.

 

[godoff95]

Err... I think you sorta misunderstood what Cindy was doing there.
After Cindy and Ian had their moment -- either a kiss or sex -- Cindy freaked out, which would be a pretty natural response to that 'spur of the moment' acting on her feelings. She tried to backtrack and attempt to 'fix' her relationship with Wade by going off on a romantic weekend. Seeing as Ian followed her social media, she knew he would see it when she posted that selfie, and did it to give the impression that what had happened between Ian and her meant nothing (to him) and that she and Wade were going great (to the rest of her friends who knew about her fight with Wade at the club).
It was a desperate act, and even Perry caught on to it, saying something like 'doesn't it seem like their relationship is a bit beyond fixing', or something to that effect.

Thanks for your input. It does put a different perspective. But why do you think Cindy changed her outfit?

 

[balvenie1401]

But why do you think Cindy changed her outfit?

Most of us do on a daily basis..

 

[Zedire]

I'm interested in that route as well. My main playthrough is focused on getting away from Jeremy, because I see a direct correlation between Jeremy from ORS and Jack from GGGB. I despised Jack from the start of GGGB and it's kind of the same for Jeremy. Even though he seems to be a bit more "bro" status for Ian... He still rubs me the wrong way.
Further touching on the MMA route, I think it would be awesome if during the MMA tournament, Ian and Jeremy face off and we have a chance to beat the shit outta him.

IMO, Jack isn't really like Jeremy at all, besides them both being chads. It also depends on how you play Ash's relationship with Jack, like if you go for a romance or sexual relationship only. Yes, Jack starts off being your standard chad and quite a bit of an asshole, but if you actually romance him you find out there's a lot more going on with him below the surface. He's actually not bad in that route.

Jeremy, however, at least as he is so far, is purely into women for the sex. He's shown virtually no personality other then that so far, and what small morals he preaches about 'not stealing a brother's girl' are sorta questionable considering he does kinda hint at wanting to go for Allison even when Ian has clearly talked about how he likes her and they've started seeing each other (and his relationship points with Ian go down if Ian says that he likes her, rather then just wanting to fuck her).

Gotta say, I've loved the MMA aspect of this game from the start, and love the street fights - I would love a lot more of those beyond the tournament, although that would probably get pretty dicey with the law. Hmm.. maybe Seymour will use Ian for shakedowns on people that owe him, in future?

But yeah, I'm excited about more MMA content, and being able to kick Jeremy's ass if he tries hitting on one of your girls would be fun. I mean, it will probably happen anyway, if Lena keeps dating Ian and Jeremy at the same time.

Thanks for your input. It does put a different perspective. But why do you think Cindy changed her outfit?

My guess is that Cindy's new outfit is for a photoshoot with Axel, and possibly to tempt/tease Ian at the same time (seeing as the scene has to be from the POV of either Ian or Lena, and though it could be Lena doing some sort of modelling with Axel as her photographer, I still think it's more likely to be Ian). Cindy will probably see it as a bonus to keep Ian's attention focused on her during the photoshoot since she's still interested in him, even though she's gonna pretend she's not for a bit.

If it weren't for the white stockings, I'd have said it was her new everyday outfit, but it's too sensual for that.

 

[JamieSadistic]

In the last chapter, Cindy posts a happy selfie with wade. I guess Ian isher dildo.

I know it's the shitty thing to do but my MC went balls deep in Cindy during the alley scene. Cindy is my main LI and as I said before, as shitty as it is, I'm willing to do whatever I have to do to get her.
My Lena PT is a lesbian one. So she's not interested in any guys except for friendship.

 

[Tierra_Azul]

IMO, Jack isn't really like Jeremy at all, besides them both being chads.

Agreed, there is no similarity in my opinion. Jeremys character is more like Kevin from GGGB. I think EvaKiss said as much herself. Jeremy and Jack are at two entirely different paths in life. Jack was a rich playboy, I think he was a reality-tv small time celeb if I remember correctly. He had to have a lot of money considering that he drives a Bugatti Veyron, and hes out there buying night clubs/gyms like an entrepreneur.

Jeremy is a working-class bartender, who aspire to become an MMA fighter, not really a luxurious profession unless you reach the top of the top organizations (Or you get to fight Jake Paul). I'm not quite sure where Eva wants to go with the character, right now he does not have much of a personality, the little we know comes from the bio in the menu.
Like Kevin, Jeremy he is your typical fuckboy, which is why he ends up in that messy situation with Louise. Jack on the other hand is always very clear, that he wants no relationship and that he only wants fun. Ashley has to pursue Jack to "tame the beast" so to speak. The only similarity I can find, is that they both like to share photos of their conquests.

 

[BlandChili]

The only similarity I can find, is that they both like to share photos of their conquests.

Well, they're also both buff dudes in tight shirts frequenting the gym setting in-game!

Is that a personality trait?

 

[Deleted member 3064965]

My guess is that Cindy's new outfit is for a photoshoot with Axel, and possibly to tempt/tease Ian at the same time (seeing as the scene has to be from the POV of either Ian or Lena, and though it could be Lena doing some sort of modelling with Axel as her photographer, I still think it's more likely to be Ian). Cindy will probably see it as a bonus to keep Ian's attention focused on her during the photoshoot since she's still interested in him, even though she's gonna pretend she's not for a bit.

If it weren't for the white stockings, I'd have said it was her new everyday outfit, but it's too sensual for that.

I agree that the stockings (and the skirt) makes it unlikely that it's just an everyday outfit, and also that a photoshoot with Axel seems like the most logical situation for her to wear it. But there's also a few things that I think might point against Cindy agreeing to another photoshoot with Axel at this point of the story, at least if she ended up kissing or having sex with Ian after Wade's birthday party.

First of all, I think it's likely that Cindy's guilty conscience would also apply to the fact that she's been modelling for Axel, even though nothing's happened between them. And if she wants to be a good girlfriend because she's cheated on Wade, it would be kind of weird of her to do the exact thing that Wade disliked because it made him afraid she would cheat.

Also, for the time being, I think it's less likely that Cindy will share pictures with Ian to tempt him. Before they ended up together after the party she could justify it to herself as something innocent, which she obviously can't do now. In that sense I could just as well see a new sex scene between them happening in this episode – that could be more of a heat of the moment thing (again). Arranging a new photoshoot and then sending pictures to Ian seems a bit too … rationally irrational.

These objections obviously don't apply if Ian didn't kiss Cindy or if he followed Wade instead, but I doubt that Eva would share a Cindy sneak peek that's only available in playthroughs where you're not involved with her.

I have to admit that I can't think of any other scenarios where Cindy would wear the outfit, though. Generally, considering that Ian and Cindy are in the same group of friends, it should be easy to set up the scene for that confrontation-ish talk they probably need before we'll see any new scenes between them. But I'm having bigger problems imagining how that next step will happen (either a sex scene or the continuation of the flirting between them), also because (as someone else pointed out) there's really not any natural place for them to be alone.

Come to think of it, it makes a lot of sense to use Lena to make Cindy jealous in this scenario. Either by having Cindy observe Ian with Lena, or, if Axel and Lena have a photoshoot in the next episode, letting Perry or Jeremy mention something about how hot those photos are. In turn making a jealous Cindy realize that she needs to do something to win back Ian's attention, or that she should let Axel shoot some even hotter pictures of her.

Maybe even Wade could somehow be involved in involuntarily bringing Cindy and Ian back together? If his relationship with Cindy seems better, it's likely that he'll lower his guard and stop being so jealous. "Hey, Ian, would you mind following Cindy to her next photoshoot with Axel? I didn't really like being there, but Cindy convinced me it's nothing to be jealous of, so I don't mind. And I know I can trust you, my dear friend."

 

[WatsonJohn]

Is it me or are some of the guys not that attractive? There's Stan so that's already a -1 and Mike is just ehh.

 

[BlandChili]

Is it me or are some of the guys not that attractive? There's Stan so that's already a -1 and Mike is just ehh.

Phsysically I have nothing against Mike. Personally he's not really my type, but he looks fine.

My issue with most of the male characters are either their personalities (Robert, Jeremy, Axel Wade, Perry, Stan) or their circumstances (Robert, Jeremy, Axel, Mike, Ian).
With Mike, the way I play Lena I don't feel like it makes sense to suddenly get the hots for this stranger and fuck him and there's not really any middle ground to get to know him.
Dating him casually isn't really an option either, given he's in a relationship.

 

[godoff95]

With Mike, the way I play Lena I don't feel like it makes sense to suddenly get the hots for this stranger and fuck him and there's not really any middle ground to get to know him.
Dating him casually isn't really an option either, given he's in a relationship.

I only play Lena-Mike because of their sex scenes. Otherwise, I don't get it.

 

[BlandChili]

Well, I can understand doing his route if nothing else than to just do the slutty thing, I just don't think it fits with the way I play Lena. I have played to watch the first couple of scenes with him, they're hot, but I'm not really interested in his character as a story piece for Lena to get involved in.