VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[jduk]

Who is Jacob??

 

[aifgamer]

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Yeah when I did the playthrough to check this, I found it interesting that Jeremy gives you this warning, but then you never get the phone call.

So there's definitely foreshadowing that he's going to move in on her, but the missing phone call seems to imply she doesn't take him -- this time.

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It might be a dick move, but she's not cheating on him because they haven't defined a relationship.

From a woman's point of view, asking a man on that trip and getting shot down would be a devastating blow to her ego. For a woman like Alison, who is already insecure, calling another guy to go instead is definitely a realistic and in-character move.

Edit -- Turning down the trip can knock your relationship meter down from full to half. It's a big choice.

 

[BlandChili]

Who is Jacob??

Jacob Rees Mogg. Leader of the House of Commons in the UK.

 

[kartolas]

Yeah when I did the playthrough to check this, I found it interesting that Jeremy gives you this warning, but then you never get the phone call.

So there's definitely foreshadowing that he's going to move in on her, but the missing phone call seems to imply she doesn't take him -- this time.





It might be a dick move, but she's not cheating on him because they haven't defined a relationship.

From a woman's point of view, asking a man on that trip and getting shot down would be a devastating blow to her ego. For a woman like Alison, who is already insecure, calling another guy to go instead is definitely a realistic and in-character move.

Isn't she seeing Jeremy when she asks Ian to go in a Vacation with her? I think I remember something like that on one of my first playthroughs.

 

[CoalPhelps]

In my opinion the choice made by Ian for his tales matters. Loser, Winner, Hero, imo Evakiss keeps the player's choices for the plot of the game. You choose Loser ? Cuckold path. You choose Winner ? You'll have a Rocco Siffredi's path.

This can be an interesting mechanic, but will obviously cause a lot of butthurt among players, especially those who skip these moments without really thinking about the book choices.

 

[AchedCroissant]

We need to save the ahegao face pic for posterity

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

100% agree. That shit was so random and out of place. Considering that Eva uses porn images and traces over them, she could have very easily picked another photo to draw over. Unless she deliberately added the face, which makes it even sillier.

But it still doesn't hold a candle to this face:
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The girls-bite-tongue-when-horny face is arguably my least favorite part of EvaKiss' work.

 

[oopsoops]

Axel is by far the best cock Lena has taken... Based at her expression at least... Poor Ian can't compete...

That's basically what I was saying on another post as well. Axel obviously fucked Lena better than Ian. She squirted!
However, Seymour also made Lena squirts and he didn't even freaking touch her!!!

 

[AchedCroissant]

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[dontcarewhateverno]

That's basically what I was saying on another post as well. Axel obviously fucked Lena better than Ian. She squirted!
However, Seymour also made Lena squirts and he didn't even freaking touch her!!!

Yeah. But that's just a love machine. And it won't work for nobody but her. (If only because sloppy used toys would be kind of gross).

That's practically like being a great sex partner by hiring your girlfriend a gigolo.

 

[TheBlackGungir]

What I feel though Eva might do is sure Axel obviously is her physical match and Seymour is obviously her Mental/Fetish match but whether it's Holly or Ian I feel though Lena may have a line talking about the "sex is great but that all it is sex" which could be dependant on whether you tore up the photo or not and also dependant are you and Ian or Holly in a relationship there is something more there than just sex. Scene with Axel was hot but man this dude is a Pure Creep and just seems like a bitch.

Seymour though is more interesting he taking away all options from her and this dude is smart enough and powerful enough to make her his granted he is the antagonist so he has to be but I wonder what she will do for the route where you turn him down it leaves an ominous feeling to it so maybe more pressure and most likely will have to use will not to fall and maybe more scenes with Emma and Lena.

Also, I hope for part two after the time jump they add at least one male character besides Ian that doesn't feel like a creep or douchebag like Ian gets Emma, Cindy, Cherry, or Alison, and Lena gets Axel, Robert, Mike, and Seymour and maybe Stan who is a lesser evil type of creep like damn I get Lena is bad and you want some corruption but does everybody in her story just want her pussy and in Ian route, he gets to at least try to have a true connection with somebody. One of my biggest pet peeves about this amazing game along with can we please just get a normal black guy, not a rapper or player as a black guy I get it easy fetish but just give me one black man who is just normal.

 

[oopsoops]

Yeah. But that's just a love machine. And it won't work for nobody but her. (If only because sloppy used toys would be kind of gross).

That's practically like being a great sex partner by hiring your girlfriend a gigolo.

Haha, maybe hire a gigolo to be the bull
I know it's a porn game but if we really engage into the story and characters, I think that scene shows Seymour is an expert sugar daddy who knows how to have fun. It's the whole circumstances, the astrosphere, the dialogue, and the way he controlled the remote that drove Lena to ecstasy. The toy was just a medium.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Haha, maybe hire a gigolo to be the bull
I know it's a porn game but if we really engage into the story and characters, I think that scene shows Seymour is an expert sugar daddy who knows how to have fun. It's the whole circumstances, the astrosphere, the dialogue, and the way he controlled the remote that drove Lena to ecstasy. The toy was just a medium.

Figured this argument would come up when I typed that reply. But lesbi honest. A good enough toy can make the right girl squirt, regardless of the quasi-sophisticated "I'm such an in-control, calculating daddy" Dos-Equis Man wanna-be sitting in the corner in his uber-played-up scotch-drinking pose. Your take is what Eva was going for in the scene, true. I'm just not sold on it with the Seymour she created.

Just like a fat, hairy grandma can get you off with the right porn and a well-lubed flesh-light if Eva wants to do an Ian version in the next update. Plus this grandma bakes cookies.... But with fucking walnuts, though. That bitch.

Sorry. In a random comment mood today.

 

[kartolas]

What I feel though Eva might do is sure Axel obviously is her physical match and Seymour is obviously her Mental/Fetish match but whether it's Holly or Ian I feel though Lena may have a line talking about the "sex is great but that all it is sex" which could be dependant on whether you tore up the photo or not and also dependant are you and Ian or Holly in a relationship there is something more there than just sex. Scene with Axel was hot but man this dude is a Pure Creep and just seems like a bitch.

Seymour though is more interesting he taking away all options from her and this dude is smart enough and powerful enough to make her his granted he is the antagonist so he has to be but I wonder what she will do for the route where you turn him down it leaves an ominous feeling to it so maybe more pressure and most likely will have to use will not to fall and maybe more scenes with Emma and Lena.

Also, I hope for part two after the time jump they add at least one male character besides Ian that doesn't feel like a creep or douchebag like Ian gets Emma, Cindy, Cherry, or Alison, and Lena gets Axel, Robert, Mike, and Seymour and maybe Stan who is a lesser evil type of creep like damn I get Lena is bad and you want some corruption but does everybody in her story just want her pussy and in Ian route, he gets to at least try to have a true connection with somebody. One of my biggest pet peeves about this amazing game along with can we please just get a normal black guy, not a rapper or player as a black guy I get it easy fetish but just give me one black man who is just normal.

I agree. Now that I saw all the girls names in line like that, I see that they all have some strong flaws in their characters, even more, Lena is actually the least bad of the bunch now that I think about it (IMO). The males are worst but still... The only options if you want to avoid corruption are Ian and Holly... About corruption, there are so many games Only about corruption and I played many, that now if I see one with Female protagonist that actually give a non corruption route, I jump on it right away. I make it my main playthrough and tend to explore other routes latter IF the game is good like this one is.

 

[BlandChili]

Figured this argument would come up when I typed that reply. But lesbi honest. A good enough toy can make the right girl squirt, regardless of the quasi-sophisticated "I'm such an in-control, calculating daddy" Dos-Equis Man wanna-be sitting in the corner in his uber-played-up scotch-drinking pose. Your take is what Eva was going for in the scene, true. I'm just not sold on it with the Seymour she created.

Just like a fat, hairy grandma can get you off with the right porn and a well-lubed flesh-light if Eva wants to do an Ian version in the next update. Plus she bakes cookies.

Neither am I, especially because the scene plays out the same way under all circumstances, regardless of whether or not Lena readily agreed to sign or had to be coerced to accept under threat of total ruin.

I won't claim I couldn't possibly have an orgasm from a toy controlled by an old prick who's put me under his servitude on the premise that otherwise he'd ruin my life, luckily I have never been in such a position, but I sure as hell wouldn't enjoy it. I feel pretty confident in making that last statement.

Just like a fat, hairy grandma can get you off with the right porn and a well-lubed flesh-light if Eva wants to do an Ian version in the next update. Plus this grandma bakes cookies.... But with fucking walnuts, though. That bitch.

I don't feel opposition towards walnuts but I happen to have a grandma who insists on putting almonds into and on everything she bakes. I will refrain to ask her what she gets up to at night though.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Neither am I, especially because the scene plays out the same way under all circumstances, regardless of whether or not Lena readily agreed to sign or had to be coerced to accept under threat of total ruin.

I won't claim I couldn't possibly have an orgasm from a toy controlled by an old prick who's put me under his servitude on the premise that otherwise he'd ruin my life, luckily I have never been in such a position, but I sure as hell wouldn't enjoy it. I feel pretty confident in making that last statement.

Yeah. The fact that it played out *basically* the same each time is what irked me on any supposed "skill" Seymour might have. Sure, if that's a certain Lena's fantasy for old control-daddies, I could see that version of Lena getting into it, but not due to any skill of Seymour's imo. Just hits the right buttons. Literally.

 

[oopsoops]

With all of our different opinions and thoughts. It feels like we are doing film studies or in a book club

 

[BlandChili]

Yeah. The fact that it played out *basically* the same each time is what irked me on any supposed "skill" Seymour might have. Sure, if that's a certain Lena's fantasy for old control-daddies, I could see that version of Lena getting into it, but not due to any skill of Seymour's imo. Just hits the right buttons. Literally.

Also getting raped kinda sucks.
Even if you'd otherwise enjoy, for example a good fuck, most women wouldn't when being forced.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Also getting raped kinda sucks.
Even if you'd otherwise enjoy, for example a good fuck, most women wouldn't when being forced.

I just didn't really want the scene for any of my Lenas, so rewound and tried to reject the contract at the restaurant in every scenario that would let me. I'm chalking it up to a fetish/fantasy Eva liked enough to make it a major hard-to-avoid path in the game. She could've preferably made it possible to reject Seymour's "contract" interpretation and just walk out of his office, which I would like to have chosen, though there are quite a few other scenes in the game the user is basically locked into after a point. I can definitely see how this particular one would bother some not to have that option in the office and I'm sure it might've irked me more personally if I was at greater risk IRL to those sort of situations.

I do think people need to be prepared for that sort of content in hardcore sex games which, even with a nice story, this is, after all. But yeah, the design there could've been handled better. Ideally, there should have been an option in this scene and it was strange you couldn't choose to just leave.

 

[Echbert]

The girls-bite-tongue-when-horny face is arguably my least favorite part of EvaKiss' work.

feel like we should be seeing a lot more scarred tongues.