VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[kalnitez]

anyone got a guide for ORS, feels like you dont know if you miss any scenes

 

[Zirael Q]

tbh i'm starting to think this is what goes on in her patreon :
- Eva : *oh shit oh shit i haven't posted anything for two weeks, patreons must be furious!*
Eva posts something : hi guys so i'm actually taking a few days off but i'm also working hard all is good no worries.
- Patreons : OMG we love you you're awesome please take all the time you need because we have lots of money and we don't mind giving it to you for the rest of our lives even if you don't do anything.
- Eva : * wow they took that very well * Okay thank you guys don't mind if i do.
she then proceeds to extend her vacation.......

Noo you can't say that, she has 17382829393 reasons to take a vacation after a very tiresome and necessary, definitely not a pointless rework!!!! Stan was the most important character in the game, and what about the black dude Lena meets in the club? It would be more fitting if he was white instead. Thanks to that huge rework this game has been nominated as the Game of the Year! Don't think it'll pass Elden Ring but it'll definitely be a strong contender, because Stan is reworked now. You have no idea how worth it was to wait months for this, and how crucial it actually was.

You guys don't get it, creating a branching story is way too hard, only she's doing such a thing! No other dev writes a complex story, you don't get it

So, you decide to criticize her or the game? You're a crybaby

 

[RoboticCatDogHybrid]

She is acting lazy and there's no hiding it this time around bros haha.

 

[mommysboiii]

You guys don't get it, creating a branching story is way too hard, only she's doing such a thing! No other dev writes a complex story, you don't get it

name a single one with that amount of branches and different story events

 

[bleachedturtle]

I think if Eva were to release some previews / teasers, then it would bring up people's spirits and possibly start building some hype for the next release

 

[Satiro]

I don´t understand why we shouldn´t give a negative review about the slow update. If you read my opinions about eva games , i always give a very good opinion about her works, in fact GGGB is one of my favourites and so, i was a backer but so many months in the air mades me a tactical retreat. I respect her games, with a high quality in every aspects( art, plots, choices, sex tags etc)....but from my opinion the update takes too much time to release

 

[BlackIsBetter]

Hello, everyone. Earlier today I penned a comment asking about the way to communicate to the Dev and found out they have a Patreon. Wonderful! However, I ran into a conundrum! While I can see every update, the latest one is locked, inaccessible for me! Anyone know what is up with that?

 

[Tulrek]

Hello, everyone. Earlier today I penned a comment asking about the way to communicate to the Dev and found out they have a Patreon. Wonderful! However, I ran into a conundrum! While I can see every update, the latest one is locked, inaccessible for me! Anyone know what is up with that?

Did you pledge in Patreon ?
If yes, you might have not pledge a high tier enough to unlock it.
My two cents about that.

 

[RichietheReapa]

I don´t understand why we shouldn´t give a negative review about the slow update. If you read my opinions about eva games , i always give a very good opinion about her works, in fact GGGB is one of my favourites and so, i was a backer but so many months in the air mades me a tactical retreat. I respect her games, with a high quality in every aspects( art, plots, choices, sex tags etc)....but from my opinion the update takes too much time to release

I don't have a problem with the slow updates, but yh she prolly bit off a lil too much. Multiple scenes and variations depending on your choices and it just multiplies. Love the game, but wouldn't mind if she went back to the GGGB template after this game. I feel like there has to exist a happy medium somewhere between the GGGB template and Our Red String.

 

[dolfe67]

If this would have had only 1 MC, which would you prefer? Ian or Lena?

 

[BlackIsBetter]

Did you pledge in Patreon ?
If yes, you might have not pledge a high tier enough to unlock it.
My two cents about that.

I have not pledged to the Patreon but like I said, I can see every other post updating on the game except that latest one. It says it's "Locked". This caused me quite a confusion. I was wondering If maybe pledging to become a Patreon might resolve this issue but I am uncertain if I should do it.

 

[Canto Forte]

O.K. this game is looking to implement multiple paths as a plot devise.
Lena has a lot of asshole guys who treat or treated her like dirt and now they wanna piece of her.
Ian has some friends who are kind of a drag and keep getting him out for drinks and girls.
Ian is out of luck with girls, looking at his friends 4 help. He has a challenge.
Lena is just like that other game - plenty of players wanna whore her out to every asshole looking under her skirt.

If this would have had only 1 MC, which would you prefer? Ian or Lena?

 

[Cezzard]

If this would have had only 1 MC, which would you prefer? Ian or Lena?

lena for sure, she is bi so more content for us

 

[Doppelgang]

Coming back to this thread today after being away for a couple of weeks, and things are just

 

[Canto Forte]

Yeah ,, a gaming gimmick loosing all identity of your MC just to see those other filler scenes.

 

[dav121]

Coming back to this thread today after being away for a couple of weeks, and things are just

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You forgot the most important element.... the troll

 

[monk_56]

My two cents are the following. If you want to criticise Eva for the development of ORS, you should criticise her for the decisions she has made regarding the scope of the game - not for milking her patrons, or for purposefully slowing down the release of new chapters.

While the game certainly takes much longer to develop, it is not like the updates don't come with any additional content, that corresponds to the additional time taken. Generally, the average chapter of ORS contains more scenes and more images than the average episode of GGGB, so the additional development is clearly used to pack more into each update. Therefore, I don't think that you can say that she is milking her patrons, as that would mean the updates are constantly being delayed without any output to show for it.

Instead, it is abundantly clear to me that the reason why this game takes so long to develop nowadays, is because she has taken on twice the amount of work. Assuming that you want to keep the content per MC roughly the same as in GGGB, adding an additional MC immediately implies that you would need to double the work you do, even if you wouldn't intertwine their stories at all. However, their stories are intertwined, which means that you must now consider not only how each MC relates to their own closest group of characters, but also how each MC relates to the other MC's closest group of characters. Naturally, this makes the game increasingly complicated to develop, with longer times between updates as a consequence.

Both of these are caused by Eva herself, though, which makes me less sympathetic to her development struggles, and less accepting of the increased development time. Literally anyone could have predicated that this was going to happen when she announced that the game was going to have to MCs, which makes you wonder how Eva decided to move forward with that idea. Likely, all of the problems could have been solved by just keeping the scope at a reasonable level, something that Eva is solely responsible for. For this, I think you have every right to criticise her, and express dissatisfaction at how long the game is taking to develop.

Further, the development tendencies aren't great either. Looking back, the game was actually released relatively frequently for the first five (or so) chapters, after which it has slowed down tremendously. It feels as if every status update contains some comment about how the week wasn't as productive as she would have liked, or how she is struggling with the writing. Clearly, this is a worrying trend, because it suggest that the development is unlikely to speed up, and that, if anything, it will probably slow down, which is once again a consequence of the decisions that she has made regarding the cope of the game.

Personally, I also feel quite annoyed with how Eva seems to have completely accepted that this is now a game that takes five months to develop, and is making no effort to find ways to reduce this time. As long as this doesn't impact her patron numbers, she isn't really incentivized to do so either, which adds to the impression that this game is more likely to slow down in development, rather than speed up, and that Eva really hasn't managed this in the best way possible.

Overall, then, I think that you can criticise Eva for several things when it comes to the development of ORS. Milking, is not one of them. Mismanaging the scope and development, though, is something that I do think Eva has made herself guilty of. It is just unfortunate that it has come to this, because at the end of the day, we all just want as many updates as possible. And while five months can be a huge update for a 3D game, a 2D game does't really compare in this regard...

If you like all the routes waiting 5 months for the product you get seems acceptable. If you are mainly waiting on a couple routes and find many of them depressing instead of erotic the releases tend to be pretty underwhelming. As such, the value proposition of being a Eva Patreon is pretty heavily linked to kink diversity.

 

[mommysboiii]

If this would have had only 1 MC, which would you prefer? Ian or Lena?

my boiii ian for sure stan the MAN would be even better

 

[CoalPhelps]

If this would have had only 1 MC, which would you prefer? Ian or Lena?

Ian for sure. Lena's POV is still more about corruption and flings, while Ian's POV focuses on his creative struggles and career, as well as helping his friends, which itself is much more interesting.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

Ian for sure. Lena's POV is still more about corruption and flings, while Ian's POV focuses on his creative struggles and career, as well as helping his friends, which itself is much more interesting.

I'd say her corruption and fling-filled POV is intricately tied to her money and career struggles. Seymour alone is a prime example.

This is why I'm a bit reluctant to pair up Ian with Lena, her path has so many landmines lmao.