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Being a vegan is a serious character flaw.
Is she a vegan? Lol. Well, if she doesn't make it a big deal and force it on others constantly, it's fine.

I was about to write that getting too deep into SJW shit is a character flaw, but so far, she hasn't taken it to some crazy extreme. She a rational liberal person, but it certainly has the potential to go to shit. That's the thing with tribalism these days, whether it be the left or right.
 

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Is she a vegan? Lol. Well, if she doesn't make it a big deal and force it on others constantly, it's fine.

I was about to write that getting too deep into SJW shit is a character flaw, but so far, she hasn't taken it to some crazy extreme. She a rational liberal person, but it certainly has the potential to go to shit. That's the thing with tribalism these days, whether it be the left or right.
She keeps her veganism to herself, actually.

Honestly, I won't consider protesting on a sleazy corpo dude monopolizing the city's economy as something remotely SJW.
 
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Is she a vegan? Lol. Well, if she doesn't make it a big deal and force it on others constantly, it's fine.

I was about to write that getting too deep into SJW shit is a character flaw, but so far, she hasn't taken it to some crazy extreme. She a rational liberal person, but it certainly has the potential to go to shit. That's the thing with tribalism these days, whether it be the left or right.
Assault isn't extreme?
 

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She keeps her veganism to herself, actually.

Honestly, I won't consider protesting on a sleazy corpo dude monopolizing the city's economy as something remotely SJW.
SJW's will call you a racist, sexist, whatever-ist for not agreeing with them, just like folks who use "cuck" and "snowflake" a lot will say everything but the N word anytime a black person does something less than perfect.
 

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Except for her being a vegan, communist and a violent piece of shit?
Well, yes, but the big corporations and oligarchs in the face of Seymour are innocent sheep and do nothing wrong. EMMA BAD.
And three more theses:
1. Emma is a vegetarian, but unlike the "activists" of this movement, she does not impose her choice on others. It's good attitude.
2. Since when is the protection of the interests of small businesses (like Lena's cafe) - communism? Emma - social dem.
Maybe Cindy is also communist, because she likes free stuff and when others pay for her? :LOL:
3. Where did she engage in violence? The violence was carried out by the police, who attacked the protesters. Read the dialogues carefully.
 

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Well, yes, but the big corporations and oligarchs in the face of Seymour are innocent sheep and do nothing wrong. EMMA BAD.
And three more theses:
1. Emma is a vegetarian, but unlike the "activists" of this movement, she does not impose her choice on others. It's good attitude.
2. Since when is the protection of the interests of small businesses (like Lena's cafe) - communism? Emma - social dem.
Maybe Cindy is also communist, because she likes free stuff and when others pay for her? :LOL:
3. Where did she engage in violence? The violence was carried out by the police, who attacked the protesters. Read the dialogues carefully.
Big corporations are the reason life is great for most people on this planet, small businesses are nice but if they can't cut the mustard, they should not exist.
And yeah, she is a violent piece of shit, spilling beer in somebody's face on purpose is assault, not different from throwing a rock in somebody face.

Why are you listing those like they are bad?
They are all bad, Emma is secretly an evil woman.
 

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Throwing a temper tantrum when people don't like her jokes and praise another girl are self-centered and narcissistic.
I view these more as effects of being highly competitive, something Ian comments on during the early pool game, and a trait Cindy seems to share with Wade (possibly one of things that got them together in the first place?) With her good looks Cindy is used to being the center of attention, so when someone else --especially another girl-- gets the spotlight Cindy isn't willing to just meekly fade into the background.

As potential flaws go, these are pretty natural and human, and some would probably argue it's just assertiveness that's not a flaw at all. Granted, it can rub the wrong way some players who are used to them being the center of attention for every NPC in the game. :V
 
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Big corporations are the reason life is great for most people on this planet, small businesses are nice but if they can't cut the mustard, they should not exist.
> Big corpo
> Great life.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Seriously, joke of the day.
Small business is the backbone of a healthy economy. Never before have large corporations benefited economic prosperity and people's lives. They try to monopolize the market and put their own conditions on it. This is called Oligarchy or Corpocracy. The result - unjustified space prices, low quality products. This is not much different from the communist system, where the state has a monopoly on the economy, in this case, a group of large companies has a monopoly on the economy.
And yeah, she is a violent piece of shit, spilling beer in somebody's face on purpose is assault, not different from throwing a rock in somebody face.
Poor little Seymour, it's an end of his life, beer on his expensive suit. Totally deserved. Frankly, after playing Ep.9
I perceive this moment as one of the best in the game.
Like this moment in another one:
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It's the least of what Seymour deserves.
The Wanstein option at the end of the game is open to him.
 

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Throwing a drink at someone's suit is hardly an assault, and definitely not of the "extreme" kind.


It's obviously significantly different, given the amount of damage a rock can inflict, as opposed to soft fluid.
The law sees both as assault, violence is violence. And ruining an expensive suit with that beer is a moral crime too.
 
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> Big corpo
> Great life.
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Seriously, joke of the day.
Small business is the backbone of a healthy economy. Never before have large corporations benefited economic prosperity and people's lives. They try to monopolize the market and put their own conditions on it. This is called Oligarchy or Corpocracy. The result - unjustified space prices, low quality products. This is not much different from the communist system, where the state has a monopoly on the economy, in this case, a group of large companies has a monopoly on the economy.

Poor little Seymour, it's an end of his life, beer on his expensive suit. Totally deserved. Frankly, after playing Ep.9
I perceive this moment as one of the best in the game.
Like this moment in another one:
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:ROFLMAO:
It's the least of what Seymour deserves.
The Wanstein option at the end of the game is open to him.
How do you think food, technology and healthcare is so cheap in the west?
Do you think we would have all this tech available for pennies without big tech companies?
Only idiots and hippies don't see the benefit of capitalism.
 

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So I'm trying to corrupt Holly in a certain way, but I'm unsure if there is a way to corrupt her enough to have her make out with Ivy, kissing Ivy as a greeting, while still being in a relationship with Lena. It seems I either corrupt her enough that she ends up giving Mark a blowjob or I end up protecting her to much from Ivy and she remains shy. I'm wanting Holly to become similar to Eva from GGGB. Where her and Lena are still in a relationship, but she's willing to get tats, piercings and dress more confidently / slutty, assuming that's where the storyline takes her.

Also, is Louise just the worst? I feel like no matter what choices I make, other than giving her my complete undivided attention, she just always gets pissed a Lena. Even in the route where I made her Lena's sex slave she was super whiney and attention seeking. Probably my least favorite character after Seymour.
 

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So I'm trying to corrupt Holly in a certain way, but I'm unsure if there is a way to corrupt her enough to have her make out with Ivy, kissing Ivy as a greeting, while still being in a relationship with Lena. It seems I either corrupt her enough that she ends up giving Mark a blowjob or I end up protecting her to much from Ivy and she remains shy. I'm wanting Holly to become similar to Eva from GGGB. Where her and Lena are still in a relationship, but she's willing to get tats, piercings and dress more confidently / slutty, assuming that's where the storyline takes her.
While Holly has a "holly_change" variable that keeps track of how "corrupted" she is (honestly that only makes sense as porn game lingo, "outgoing" or "confident" would probably be more accurate to her case), she is still pretty commited and doesn't fool around when she has romantic feelings for someone. It is possible that just by being dating Lena that she won't get too flirty with Ivy no matter how "corrupted" she is.

Simply put, if Holly has sex with Ivy in chapter 8 (regardless of if Lena participates or not), you will miss your opportunity to start a romantic path between her and Lena, and this causes her to be more "affectionate" with Ivy (and open to things like going with Mark if you encouraged her in that department). If instead Holly has sex with just Lena in chapter 8 then you will be starting a romantic route between Lena and Holly and, even if you still "corrupt" Holly as much as you can by increasing "holly_change" whenever you can, she still won't get too affectionate with Ivy and won't go after Mark (unless you push her into it) because she has romantic feelings for Lena.

I think the path I'd recommend for you is to try to "corrupt" Holly as much as you can, but make sure she only has sex with Lena in chapter 8. Alternatively you could let Ivy have her way with Holly and just block her involvement with Mark, but there's no guarantees that the game will give the player another opportunity to get Lena and Holly together in a romantic relationship.
 
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