VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[Deleted member 2312665]

Except for her being a vegan, communist and a violent piece of shit?

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[Dromedari]

Brandishing a strap-on, Emma will teach Seymour the power of the proletariat .

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Except for her being a vegan, communist and a violent piece of shit?

Well, yes, but the big corporations and oligarchs in the face of Seymour are innocent sheep and do nothing wrong. EMMA BAD.
And three more theses:
1. Emma is a vegetarian, but unlike the "activists" of this movement, she does not impose her choice on others. It's good attitude.
2. Since when is the protection of the interests of small businesses (like Lena's cafe) - communism? Emma - social dem.
Maybe Cindy is also communist, because she likes free stuff and when others pay for her?
3. Where did she engage in violence? The violence was carried out by the police, who attacked the protesters. Read the dialogues carefully.

 

[cheesetriangles]

Except for her being a vegan, communist and a violent piece of shit?

Why are you listing those like they are bad?

 

[Mr. Muscles]

Pretty sure OP wants to safe Cindy and Wade's relationship, not date her.

OP is wrong

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Well, yes, but the big corporations and oligarchs in the face of Seymour are innocent sheep and do nothing wrong. EMMA BAD.
And three more theses:
1. Emma is a vegetarian, but unlike the "activists" of this movement, she does not impose her choice on others. It's good attitude.
2. Since when is the protection of the interests of small businesses (like Lena's cafe) - communism? Emma - social dem.
Maybe Cindy is also communist, because she likes free stuff and when others pay for her?
3. Where did she engage in violence? The violence was carried out by the police, who attacked the protesters. Read the dialogues carefully.

Big corporations are the reason life is great for most people on this planet, small businesses are nice but if they can't cut the mustard, they should not exist.
And yeah, she is a violent piece of shit, spilling beer in somebody's face on purpose is assault, not different from throwing a rock in somebody face.

Why are you listing those like they are bad?

They are all bad, Emma is secretly an evil woman.

 

[ffive]

Throwing a temper tantrum when people don't like her jokes and praise another girl are self-centered and narcissistic.

I view these more as effects of being highly competitive, something Ian comments on during the early pool game, and a trait Cindy seems to share with Wade (possibly one of things that got them together in the first place?) With her good looks Cindy is used to being the center of attention, so when someone else --especially another girl-- gets the spotlight Cindy isn't willing to just meekly fade into the background.

As potential flaws go, these are pretty natural and human, and some would probably argue it's just assertiveness that's not a flaw at all. Granted, it can rub the wrong way some players who are used to them being the center of attention for every NPC in the game. :V

 

[ffive]

Assault isn't extreme?

Throwing a drink at someone's suit is hardly an assault, and definitely not of the "extreme" kind.

not different from throwing a rock in somebody face

It's obviously significantly different, given the amount of damage a rock can inflict, as opposed to soft fluid.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Big corporations are the reason life is great for most people on this planet, small businesses are nice but if they can't cut the mustard, they should not exist.

> Big corpo
> Great life.
Seriously, joke of the day.
Small business is the backbone of a healthy economy. Never before have large corporations benefited economic prosperity and people's lives. They try to monopolize the market and put their own conditions on it. This is called Oligarchy or Corpocracy. The result - unjustified space prices, low quality products. This is not much different from the communist system, where the state has a monopoly on the economy, in this case, a group of large companies has a monopoly on the economy.

And yeah, she is a violent piece of shit, spilling beer in somebody's face on purpose is assault, not different from throwing a rock in somebody face.

Poor little Seymour, it's an end of his life, beer on his expensive suit. Totally deserved. Frankly, after playing Ep.9
I perceive this moment as one of the best in the game.
Like this moment in another one:


It's the least of what Seymour deserves.
The Wanstein option at the end of the game is open to him.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Throwing a drink at someone's suit is hardly an assault, and definitely not of the "extreme" kind.


It's obviously significantly different, given the amount of damage a rock can inflict, as opposed to soft fluid.

The law sees both as assault, violence is violence. And ruining an expensive suit with that beer is a moral crime too.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

> Big corpo
> Great life.
Seriously, joke of the day.
Small business is the backbone of a healthy economy. Never before have large corporations benefited economic prosperity and people's lives. They try to monopolize the market and put their own conditions on it. This is called Oligarchy or Corpocracy. The result - unjustified space prices, low quality products. This is not much different from the communist system, where the state has a monopoly on the economy, in this case, a group of large companies has a monopoly on the economy.

Poor little Seymour, it's an end of his life, beer on his expensive suit. Totally deserved. Frankly, after playing Ep.9
I perceive this moment as one of the best in the game.
Like this moment in another one:
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It's the least of what Seymour deserves.
The Wanstein option at the end of the game is open to him.

How do you think food, technology and healthcare is so cheap in the west?
Do you think we would have all this tech available for pennies without big tech companies?
Only idiots and hippies don't see the benefit of capitalism.

 

[Blurpee69]

So I'm trying to corrupt Holly in a certain way, but I'm unsure if there is a way to corrupt her enough to have her make out with Ivy, kissing Ivy as a greeting, while still being in a relationship with Lena. It seems I either corrupt her enough that she ends up giving Mark a blowjob or I end up protecting her to much from Ivy and she remains shy. I'm wanting Holly to become similar to Eva from GGGB. Where her and Lena are still in a relationship, but she's willing to get tats, piercings and dress more confidently / slutty, assuming that's where the storyline takes her.

Also, is Louise just the worst? I feel like no matter what choices I make, other than giving her my complete undivided attention, she just always gets pissed a Lena. Even in the route where I made her Lena's sex slave she was super whiney and attention seeking. Probably my least favorite character after Seymour.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Also, is Louise just the worst?

Probably. I hate her character too.

 

[manscout]

So I'm trying to corrupt Holly in a certain way, but I'm unsure if there is a way to corrupt her enough to have her make out with Ivy, kissing Ivy as a greeting, while still being in a relationship with Lena. It seems I either corrupt her enough that she ends up giving Mark a blowjob or I end up protecting her to much from Ivy and she remains shy. I'm wanting Holly to become similar to Eva from GGGB. Where her and Lena are still in a relationship, but she's willing to get tats, piercings and dress more confidently / slutty, assuming that's where the storyline takes her.

While Holly has a "holly_change" variable that keeps track of how "corrupted" she is (honestly that only makes sense as porn game lingo, "outgoing" or "confident" would probably be more accurate to her case), she is still pretty commited and doesn't fool around when she has romantic feelings for someone. It is possible that just by being dating Lena that she won't get too flirty with Ivy no matter how "corrupted" she is.

Simply put, if Holly has sex with Ivy in chapter 8 (regardless of if Lena participates or not), you will miss your opportunity to start a romantic path between her and Lena, and this causes her to be more "affectionate" with Ivy (and open to things like going with Mark if you encouraged her in that department). If instead Holly has sex with just Lena in chapter 8 then you will be starting a romantic route between Lena and Holly and, even if you still "corrupt" Holly as much as you can by increasing "holly_change" whenever you can, she still won't get too affectionate with Ivy and won't go after Mark (unless you push her into it) because she has romantic feelings for Lena.

I think the path I'd recommend for you is to try to "corrupt" Holly as much as you can, but make sure she only has sex with Lena in chapter 8. Alternatively you could let Ivy have her way with Holly and just block her involvement with Mark, but there's no guarantees that the game will give the player another opportunity to get Lena and Holly together in a romantic relationship.

 

[ffive]

While Holly has a "holly_change" variable that keeps track of how "corrupted" she is (honestly that only makes sense as porn game lingo, "outgoing" or "confident" would probably be more accurate to her case), she is still pretty commited and doesn't fool around when she has romantic feelings for someone.

The game describes holly_change in its files as "Holly wants to be like Lena" so yeah, thinking of it as "corruption" is just a mistake of applying a concept from other games to something quite different.

 

[bonerland]

Throwing a drink at someone's suit is hardly an assault, and definitely not of the "extreme" kind.


It's obviously significantly different, given the amount of damage a rock can inflict, as opposed to soft fluid.

Still assault, and boiling hot coffee can be just as bad. You can blind someone, permanently disfigure them, cause permanent nerve damage, it's assault for a reason.

 

[Blurpee69]

While Holly has a "holly_change" variable that keeps track of how "corrupted" she is (honestly that only makes sense as porn game lingo, "outgoing" or "confident" would probably be more accurate to her case), she is still pretty commited and doesn't fool around when she has romantic feelings for someone. It is possible that just by being dating Lena that she won't get too flirty with Ivy no matter how "corrupted" she is.

Simply put, if Holly has sex with Ivy in chapter 8 (regardless of if Lena participates or not), you will miss your opportunity to start a romantic path between her and Lena, and this causes her to be more "affectionate" with Ivy (and open to things like going with Mark if you encouraged her in that department). If instead Holly has sex with just Lena in chapter 8 then you will be starting a romantic route between Lena and Holly and, even if you still "corrupt" Holly as much as you can by increasing "holly_change" whenever you can, she still won't get too affectionate with Ivy and won't go after Mark (unless you push her into it) because she has romantic feelings for Lena.

I think the path I'd recommend for you is to try to "corrupt" Holly as much as you can, but make sure she only has sex with Lena in chapter 8. Alternatively you could let Ivy have her way with Holly and just block her involvement with Mark, but there's no guarantees that the game will give the player another opportunity to get Lena and Holly together in a romantic relationship.

Yeah, I've done those variable paths. I guess with where the game is at right now I don't know if what I want is possible, since it just ends on a cliff hanger either direction with Holly at chapter 10. Holly's story needs to progress more in order to find out.

 

[manscout]

3. When she threw a drink in Seymore's face.

She splashed beer on his suit, not his face. Like yeah she did it on purpose to cause Seymour some grief, but the amount of people equating this to assault or some reprehensible form of violence that would warrant police intervention are either misremembering it or super out of touch with reality.

At most the bar owner could ask Emma to leave, or Seymour could take it to civil court for damages and/or harassment, but the fact even an egomaniac like him didn't do it should be telling enough of how ridiculous that would be.

 

[bonerland]

She splashed beer on his suit, not his face. Like yeah she did it on purpose to cause Seymour some grief, but the amount of people equating this to assault or some reprehensible form of violence that would warrant police intervention are either misremembering it or super out of touch with reality.

At most the bar owner could ask Emma to leave, or Seymour could take it to civil court for damages and/or harassment, but the fact even an egomaniac like him didn't do it should be telling enough of how ridiculous that would be.

Quite a bit did get in his face, and it is assault. It's probably the lowest on the scale, and would be a misdemeanor at worse, but it still is. Seymore is smart enough to know that Emma doesn't have enough to pay him back in damages if he did take her to court, which is why he didn't make a bigger deal out of it.

 

[Chuck_Bass]

Still assault, and boiling hot coffee can be just as bad. You can blind someone, permanently disfigure them, cause permanent nerve damage, it's assault for a reason.

That reminded me about a TV show called The Shield, there was this guy who robbed stores by splashing hot coffee on the tellers and robbing the cash register.
He was arrested later in the show for assault and robbery

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