Chuck_Bass

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No, of course not. I would only call it cockblocking if it's a friend of yours who is also pursuing the same girl. Tho I guess you would call it winning or scoring?
I mean, it depends. Clearly in Alison's situation Jeremy is fine with it and even pushing Ian after her too.
If I had a friend who had a crush for someone(like Perry and Emma) and he was going after her actively(unlike Perry) I would not go for it myself out of respect for him.
But Alison, Cherry and Emma are none of those.
 

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Lena comments on her own, without any player's input, that she has zero interest in Robert and his annoying advances.
That scene is about Lena being so hung up about Axel that she's too distracted and isn't in the mood for a new relationship. Her lack of interest in Robert is more to do with dating him than merely hooking up with him.

It's only if the player pushes her to give in when presented with his thinly veiled threats of getting her fired that she somewhat tolerates having sex with him and keeps him as a booty call
He only attempts to blackmail Lena if she refuses. Go out with him willingly (no need for sex) and he'll freely cough up the information and will stand up for you regardless of whether you hook up with him or not. (Of course, he'll put a little less effort in if you don't, but he won't have a massive chip on his shoulder the way he does if you straight up reject him)
She questions her choice to have hooked up with him at first, but then admits that it scratched her itch and more they end up doing it, the more she enjoys it because he learns to satisfy her sexually.
 
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GaRbS

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I mean, it depends. Clearly in Alison's situation Jeremy is fine with it and even pushing Ian after her too.
If I had a friend who had a crush for someone(like Perry and Emma) and he was going after her actively(unlike Perry) I would not go for it myself out of respect for him.
But Alison, Cherry and Emma are none of those.
Yeah, I'm not saying Ian is doing anything bad or wrong for pursuing those relationship, only that they're a bit more muddy than Holly and Lena. In the end other than Minerva and Cindy all of Ian's love interests are fine, and even Minerva is not that bad.
 

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Pretty certain she only says that to Ivy when she turns him down.
I'd say it comes up earlier and by default:
Python:
    r "You're the best, have I told you already?"
    l "Yeah, you did."
    r "You need to let me take you out for drinks to thank you for all the great work you do."
    "It wasn't the first time he proposed that. I hadn't taken him up on his offer yet..."
    l "Let's survive this week, first."
If she keeps saying no then the guy should just take a hint already. It also shows she isn't interested in him. Whether this is because of being hung up on her ex or for whatever other reason is secondary. But if she actually was interested then "being hung up on the ex" wouldn't be an issue -- case in point, she doesn't turn down Ian when asked out, even though crazy ex is still around to be hung up on just the same.

He only attempts to blackmail Lena if she refuses.
"Only". A real upstanding citizen. Can't imagine why Lena could have any second thoughts about getting involved with such guy.

(i did have Lena refuse his request because that was her standard behavior regarding Robert to date, so, well, he didn't paint himself in a positive light there)

She questions her choice to have hooked up with him at first, but then admits that it scratched her itch and more they end up doing it, the more she enjoys it because he learns to satisfy her sexually.
Well, that's a wee bit different from "she only sees a relatively attractive college who scratches her itch", isn't it? If that was really all she saw, then what reasons would she have to question her choice?
 
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He only attempts to blackmail Lena if she refuses. Go out with him willingly (no need for sex) and he'll freely cough up the information and will stand up for you regardless of whether you hook up with him or not. (Of course, he'll put a little less effort in if you don't, but he won't have a massive chip on his shoulder the way he does if you straight up reject him)
She questions her choice to have hooked up with him at first, but then admits that it scratched her itch and more they end up doing it, the more she enjoys it because he learns to satisfy her sexually.
Note, Robert will not stand up for Lena when it matters unless she sleeps with him. You can "lead him on" until chapter 3 without sleeping with him and keep things in friendly terms (he says he will speak in Lena's favor), but if you choose to not have sex with him by then, they will start arguing and Lena will end up being fired early the same way as if she had rebuffed him from the start.

Robert only wanted one thing from Lena and will not have her back and help her keep her job unless she gives it to him, plain and simple.
 

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Hi, does this game have animations, like sex animations where you can control speed and stuff ?
A couple of scenes alternates between two frames to produce what's very basic thrusting animations, but there's no control over these. Most scenes have a few static images, although i think it's for the better.
 
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ffive

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hi, How can I make Lena accept Ian's proposal for the relationship?
Playing Lena's side you need to express she has feelings for Ian, while talking with Ivy about him, IIRC. Otherwise she'll at best hook up with him.

I've mixed up Lena's side with Ian's. The poster here got it right.
 
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Don't you guys find it unfair that Lena's options for male interests aside from Ian are so problematic and toxic? It's either cheating in some way, abuse, blackmail or just being plain pathetic like Robert. Meanwhile Ian only has Cindy to compare.

I'll make a list of the least terrible relationship options for both, from worst to best.

Lena:
1-Seymour (blackmail, manipulation, practically prostitution)
2-Axel (manipulation, ex bf who cheated on you)
3-Jeremy (cheating with your best friend's bf)
4-Robert (he's pathetic)
5-Mike (making him cheat on his gf)

Ian:
1-Cindy (cheating with your friend's gf)
2-Emma (cockblocking your best friend from someone he has legit feelings for, kinda NTR vibes)
3-Minerva (kinda being blackmailed into fucking her? Making a married woman with children cheat)
4-Cherry ((cockblocking your best friend from someone he could have possibly gotten with)
5-Allison (cockblocking your friend from someone he was looking to get his dick wet, pretty much a non-issue)
6-Holly (literally no problems unless you cheat yourself)
7-Lena (same as above)

It speaks volumes that Ian's most problematic relationship is only as bad as Lena's third worst. And Ian's second and third worst are at most as bad as Lena's best!

Even Lena's sapphic relationships aren't safe from being problematic, what with Ivy and Louise. Only Holly is wholly good, holy God!
No, but the lack of ugly bastards it is.
 

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Don't you guys find it unfair that Lena's options for male interests aside from Ian are so problematic and toxic? It's either cheating in some way, abuse, blackmail or just being plain pathetic like Robert. Meanwhile Ian only has Cindy to compare.

I'll make a list of the least terrible relationship options for both, from worst to best.

Lena:
1-Seymour (blackmail, manipulation, practically prostitution)
2-Axel (manipulation, ex bf who cheated on you)
3-Jeremy (cheating with your best friend's bf)
4-Robert (he's pathetic)
5-Mike (making him cheat on his gf)

Ian:
1-Cindy (cheating with your friend's gf)
2-Emma (cockblocking your best friend from someone he has legit feelings for, kinda NTR vibes)
3-Minerva (kinda being blackmailed into fucking her? Making a married woman with children cheat)
4-Cherry ((cockblocking your best friend from someone he could have possibly gotten with)
5-Allison (cockblocking your friend from someone he was looking to get his dick wet, pretty much a non-issue)
6-Holly (literally no problems unless you cheat yourself)
7-Lena (same as above)

It speaks volumes that Ian's most problematic relationship is only as bad as Lena's third worst. And Ian's second and third worst are at most as bad as Lena's best!

Even Lena's sapphic relationships aren't safe from being problematic, what with Ivy and Louise. Only Holly is wholly good, holy God!
You say "making X cheat" a lot. No one makes someone else cheat. At worst you could say they shouldn't try to tempt or accept the advances of someone else who would be cheating, but ultimately it's the responsibility of people in relationships to remain faithful. Besides, these are all young, single folks (apart from Minerva, Cindy, and Wade). Why wouldn't they want to play the field and/or just enjoy sex? If you don't want any of that, just play the characters to only ever pursue one love interest and avoid all cheating? If anyone is making anyone cheat in this game, it's YOU as the player.
 

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You say "making X cheat" a lot. No one makes someone else cheat. At worst you could say they shouldn't try to tempt or accept the advances of someone else who would be cheating, but ultimately it's the responsibility of people in relationships to remain faithful. Besides, these are all young, single folks (apart from Minerva, Cindy, and Wade). Why wouldn't they want to play the field and/or just enjoy sex? If you don't want any of that, just play the characters to only ever pursue one love interest and avoid all cheating? If anyone is making anyone cheat in this game, it's YOU as the player.
I'm not complaining about there being cheating or saying that I don't want it. I'm saying it's unfair that Ian's love interests are objectively better than Lena's. The solution I would want for this problem is not to remove the LI's that are there or change them, but introduce new and better ones. But I realize that's a pipe dream at this point in development and I wouldn't want the game to take longer to finish its story by focusing on unnecessary stuff.

Also, Cindy and Wade are far from the only not single people in the game? Jeremy and Louise, Mike and whoever the fuck his gf is. Besides, cheating was only one of the things I said about Lena's LI's, Axel and Seymour are still even worse than cheating.
 
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Ian is not trying to prevent Jeremy or Perry from getting laid, his is just winning the race.
In Jeremy and Alison's case, Ian can cockblock the former from chasing the latter which give you a massive penalty to the boys' friendship.

Note, Robert will not stand up for Lena when it matters unless she sleeps with him. You can "lead him on" until chapter 3 without sleeping with him and keep things in friendly terms (he says he will speak in Lena's favor), but if you choose to not have sex with him by then, they will start arguing and Lena will end up being fired early the same way as if she had rebuffed him from the start.

Robert only wanted one thing from Lena and will not have her back and help her keep her job unless she gives it to him, plain and simple.
No wonder dating Robert gives you Bad Jess.

hi, How can I make Lena accept Ian's proposal for the relationship?
Make sure Lena cuddles with Ian after one of their sex scene. I forgot which one exactly.
 

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I just thought of something that I thought might be funny, although I'm 99% sure of the answer, and was just wondering if anyone else has done this already.

If holly_change is supposed to represent Holly becoming more like Lena, then how does the scene at the end of chapter 10 play out if Lena hasn't had any relationships with anyone aside from the ones that add to the holly_change count? I'm assuming that Holly will still go home with Mark, as 1) I think the only trigger for that outcome is is Holly / Ivy / Lena have sex which is how we get the most holly_change and 2) Ivy starts to take the reigns on how Holly is influenced.

Feels like the only variable with regards to Holly going home with Mark or not is if the scene with Ivy / Holly happens at Ivy's appartment.
 

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Feels like the only variable with regards to Holly going home with Mark or not is if the scene with Ivy / Holly happens at Ivy's appartment.
Holly leaving the party with Mark depends on multiple factors:

* Lena needs to encourage Holly in chapter 7 for Holy to even consider it
* Lena and Holly can't have sex
* Lena doesn't interrupt Holly and Mark during the chapter 10 party, or Holly's change variable is at 4+ if she does
* as second chance of sorts, if Holly is wavering, Lena can Push her in chapter 10 to leave the party with Mark. If Lena picks Let Holy decide then Holly will go for it if her change variable is at 5+
 
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