MF_DOOM

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Against untrained plebs, it's God mode and let's be real; 1% or less than 1% of the world's population practice martial arts. Calling BJJ and Kickboxing useless, bruh! :KEK:
It's definitely not, and especially when going against a guy who is clearly way stronger and taller with longer limbs.
I understand most people never even had a real fight as an adult and they get all that nonsense from TV, but damn.
 

MF_DOOM

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This is hysterical. I am a woman and I've literally toyed with men that are 100 pounds more than me in Jiu-Jitsu because they had no experience. Training martials art makes you infinitely more skilled than a regular person. None if it is useless.
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It's definitely not, and especially when going against a guy who is clearly way stronger and taller with longer limbs.
I understand most people never even had a real fight as an adult and they get all that nonsense from TV, but damn.
Real fight? You are just assuming that most street fights will go as planned. One knife pull and it's GG for both the parties. One will die at the spot the other in the ambulance or the ER.

Man, what a lazy ass link you posted! :KEK:


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MF_DOOM

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You are just assuming that most street fights will go as planned
That's exactly my point and that's why BJJ is useless.
The other guy is not going to just chill on the ground and try to out wrestle you, he is going to punch, kick, scratch, pick shit off the ground and try to hit your head etc.
I had some Krav Maga training when I was enlisted in the IDF, but nothing really can prepare you for a real fight with a bigger guy who will not fight "fair".
It's a lesson I painfully learned when I worked as a bouncer in a nightclub after I was discharged from the army. Going against considerably larger(not fat) dude than you is bad news most of the time.
 

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It's definitely not, and especially when going against a guy who is clearly way stronger and taller with longer limbs.
I understand most people never even had a real fight as an adult and they get all that nonsense from TV, but damn.
Devin Haney and Bradley Martyn had that convo when Brad thought he could fuck up a world champ.
 

Xill

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I'd give Axel the benefit of the doubt if he wasn't such an insecure pussy. He preys on vulnerable woman and as soon as they get some self esteem, his asshole starts clenching.

WAAAAAAH LENAAAA! I'M SO MAD I CHEATED ON YOU AND YOU GOT UPSET!

EY BRO YOU LOOKING AT MY GIRL that I'm obviously not with? I'LL FOLD YOU MAN.

WHY ARE YOU WALKING AWAY LENA? BOOOHOOOHOOOOOO LENAAAAAAAAAA...

I try to choose choices as Lena where she doesn't get mad at him but obviously isn't interested either. Getting mad is effort, he just exists for her.

I don't even want a guy to teach him a lesson, I want it to be a woman, so he really has something to be insecure about.

Fat bastards in other games have more merit than this guy man.
 

MF_DOOM

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Devin Haney and Bradley Martyn had that convo when Brad thought he could fuck up a world champ.
I don't know any of these guys but the large dude will probably hit you like a truck and will give you a concussion with one punch.
Disrespecting him like that tells me the smaller dude never fought someone twice his size.
 

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I don't know any of these guys but the large dude will probably hit you like a truck and will give you a concussion with one punch.
Disrespecting him like that tells me the smaller dude never fought someone twice his size.
The little guy is an undisputed, undefeated world boxing champion.
 

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So whats the point of this discussion?

Ian will fight Axel on some routes and with the right decisions he will win, otherwise he will lose. Whether this is realistic and not depends on how Eva writes it primarily and secondarily it will mostly be narrative reasons if he wins (the good defeats the bad), so the strict RL appliance on if he has a chance/no chance is barely relevant.
 

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I mean this is the same Ian who can get potentially get outgrappled by a stripper with no prior experience. I wouldn't hype him up too much. He's as competent in martial arts as Eva wants him to be depending on what she wants to write.

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Anyone can be outgrappled by a stripper if they make the wrong (or right) choices. Only Ian's choices are dictated by us, so win or lose it's not on him, but on us. Same way we will be able to determine whether Ian wins or loses against Axel. Though the stat requirements will probably be higher than to beat Ivy.
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SearingFive

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Anyone can be outgrappled by a stripper if they make the wrong (or right) choices. Only Ian's choices are dictated by us, so win or lose it's not on him, but on us. Same way we will be able to determine whether Ian wins or loses against Axel. Though the stat requirements will probably be higher than to beat Ivy.
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Maccabbee

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This is hysterical. I am a woman and I've literally toyed with men that are 100 pounds more than me in Jiu-Jitsu because they had no experience. Training martials art makes you infinitely more skilled than a regular person. None if it is useless.
I mostly agree with you, and have seen that. A female friend in college was a muy thai competitor. She was tiny, and extremely scary in competition. Very strong for her size, and very precise. She was so tough I wouldn't spar with her, she could wreck me accidentally, because I was very aggressive, and was difficult to predict.

I was a brawler who had some martial arts training back in the day (judo, karate, tai chi, kenpo). I would eat black belts alive, mostly because I was multi-discipline, and they were mostly sport fighters. They could only really fight people fighting their fight or with no skills.

Yeah, a bigger skilled foe will almost always take a smaller skilled foe, but there are exceptions. Extremely skilled or talented fighters break those rules. Some people also are extreme, and crazy people are not predictable, which can give them an edge.


I see, I would love to see how he will deal with a boxer twice his size. :LUL:
Or just how will he take a punch from the other guy with no gloves and protective gear.
A great boxer will never get touched by a brawler in a straight-up fight, and hit like a motherfucker. Bruce Lee respected boxing more than many martial arts, and studied it.
 
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If the bigger man has to punch downward they are going to be off balanced and most of the time a downward punch will equal an open chin. Plus boxers are bad ass because they roll with punches and can stick and move so if a big guy can't grab you or connect anything their size is worthless
 

MF_DOOM

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A great boxer will never get touched by a brawler in a straight-up fight, and hit like a motherfucker. Bruce Lee respected boxing more than many martial arts, and studied it.
Might be, I know nothing about boxing.
But the thing is, we are talking about Ian and Axel, both are regular dudes, not highly trained professionals who dedicated their life to it and do little but train every day.

Ian is a straight-up amateur who is training once or twice a week for like a year on a soft mattress, protective gear and strict rules. Who BTW sits in front of a computer all day. We don't know much about Axel but you don't get buffed like that by being a lazy slob. I guess he is doing some gym work at least?

Ian's skills won't matter when he is on a concrete floor, with no rules or referee and protective gear. Axel is not going to sit idly while Ian tries to grapple him and submit him. He will punch, kick, bite, scratch, poke his eyes out, hit him with a bottle etc.
The notion that some amateur BJJ student is OP in a street fight is a total joke straight out of Hollywood.
That was my original point.
 
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