NateGrey

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hmm... So sexual options are being restricted because they don't 'feel right'? I'm not one for f/f so this specific one doesn't matter to me, but that could be a worrisome trend. I can't imagine, for example, that it feels right for Lena to have sex with Jeremy who is both her close friend's boyfriend and one of her boyfriend's close friends...

Seems inconsistent. But i haven't actually read the scenes in question so maybe i'm misinterpreting.
Yeah, I noticed in my beta playthrough that I no longer have the option of letting Lena help Ivy in the 'education' of Holly :( This isn't even a love/romantic thing, just a couple of girls going wild after some drinking. Seems a bit of an odd (and unfortunate, from my point of view) place to draw the line for Lena, especially since Ian and Holly aren't an item, and she still has no problems doing all kinds of stuff with Robert.
 

Tulrek

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Yeah, I noticed in my beta playthrough that I no longer have the option of letting Lena help Ivy in the 'education' of Holly :( This isn't even a love/romantic thing, just a couple of girls going wild after some drinking. Seems a bit of an odd (and unfortunate, from my point of view) place to draw the line for Lena, especially since Ian and Holly aren't an item, and she still has no problems doing all kinds of stuff with Robert.
Yes this sequence seems top be quite tricky for EvaKiss. I hope she'll find the good match between decision making and consequences.
Personally, as a lot of players, dream to be able to have a 3some between Ian / Holly / Lena. So if I'm loosing definitely Lena because I slept with Holly, or if I cannot make Lana and Holly have sex because Ian has already done it with Holly is no cool.
Or at least if we could conquer back Lana with the help of Holly, it would be nice.
 
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BlandChili

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Yeah, I noticed in my beta playthrough that I no longer have the option of letting Lena help Ivy in the 'education' of Holly :( This isn't even a love/romantic thing, just a couple of girls going wild after some drinking. Seems a bit of an odd (and unfortunate, from my point of view) place to draw the line for Lena, especially since Ian and Holly aren't an item, and she still has no problems doing all kinds of stuff with Robert.
So what exactly is it that's hindering your option for the threesome? Commitment to Ian from earlier in the game?
 

BlandChili

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It gets set while playing as Lena in chapter 5 if Ian and Lena go on the date in chapter 4.
No matter what? I'd have thought that one of the options to admit to romantic feelings would be the deciding factor, not just them dating.
 

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Yeah it seems with the beta changes the ian_lena_dating variable now prevents Lena from engaging in the LenaxHollyxIvy or LenaxHolly scene
And again -- if this IS what's actually going on -- that's kind of ridiculous given that it's not stopping any number of potential slutty shenanigans with Mike/Robert/Jeremy/etc. Which is good and exactly how it should be, imo. It just seems weird and inconsistent that it's prohibitive here. And i definitely hope it's not a sign of things to come.
 

Tarmogo

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No matter what? I'd have thought that one of the options to admit to romantic feelings would be the deciding factor, not just them dating.
There are two major variables regarding Ian and Lena's relationship from what I can tell and they are ian_lena_dating and ian_lena_love. As I said earlier, ian_lena_dating appears to be the one that is used to determine the Ian/Lena/Holly situation currently.
 

RaucousRanger

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Love this game.

I'm juggling a lot of runs right now based on what pairs and characters I'm interested in and agonizing over what save files to make and meanwhile making multiple copies! (btw while typing this post i just noticed the alpha new update. good timing.)

Ian/Lena/Holly:
my OTP. I get dopamine hits from seeing the three of them in the cafe. but to actually get this scenario... Does Ian need to be merely 'dating' Lena, or madly in love with her? What choices involving Holly opening up in various ways affect this? Do Ian and Lena need to be bigdick successful artists? Is poly even an end-game option??? It seems like it would be, as Holly is the character both Ian and Lena are interested in, like a knot tying the red string... but you never know...

Ian/Holly, Lena/Holly:
also good. sweeter than i ever thought i'd find from a game I downloaded for porn. Think I prefer Ian/Holly more because Lena/Holly give 'gal pal' vibes sometimes but at the same time I liked a lot of their scenes in a romantic light too. I'm currently remaking a file with no Ian/Lena so I can do a guilt-free Ian/Holly and copy that for a guilt-free Lena/Holly.

Ian/Lena:
Eh.... probably like them as friends more. So far they're both sweet and mostly reasonable adults to each other and can easily be romantic with each other with the only complication being my chaotic hand of god forcing them away from each other by making them horny. No really, once these two went on a date early in my games, i just can't break them up lol. I put off sex repeatedly but then they did it automatically. I can only go far back and make Ian not ask her out to the music store.

Lena/Axel+Seymour:
Obviously very suspicious, but their scenes are surprisingly sexy despite them being a capitalist and a manipulative psycho-chad, but there's a slowly growing taboo being broken that will lead to good drama. Also it'll make me able to have runs where Lena makes money without StalkFap (literally called 'Stalk'fap there's no way I'm touching that on my first runs,) or god forbid, the restaurant with Robert. How this would effect my OTP remains to be seen. My hope is like, a path to go back to a normal life and a path to being a model-sugarbaby-submissive.

Ian/Cindy:
Alluring. If Lena and Seymour is my ideal 'corruptive' path for her, than Ian and Cindy is my ideal 'corruptive' path for him. Cindy just has that 'spark' that makes scenes between them very appealing like playing pool or seeing her photoshoot. Her being high-maintenance doesn't really annoy me. For the most part she just doesn't want to be stuck in a rut with her friends that are really Wade's friends. Heh, playing the bad guy is oddly funny whilst my Ian is a sensitive art man.

Ian/Allison:
Yeah... I played the game my blind at first having Ian pick up chicks and then I couldn't shake off Allison. She slowly became one of my least favorite characters in the game. Despite her 'thing' as an uptight office lady looking to go wild I just find her so.... boring. Much more than Ian/Lena. The true dangers of casual sex.

Ian/Minerva:
it's so wack and I can't look away

Lena/Louise:
I WOULD bc I genuinely like Louise more than some other players. she reminds me of someone with borderline personality disorder... but it just seemed too awkward and sudden after the Jeremy situation. And I learned when my main characters have sex with their friend you're not gonna shake them off for a while. I'll at least see what her scenes are like.

Sadly a lot of Lena ""love"" interests I'm not into and would never pick. No married baker man, no Stan, no casual Ivy hookup, no white bread Robert, no goddamn Jeremy(kinda uncomfortable with the bbc trope. I can't hate him for being a cheater while my characters are doing cheating paths lol.) Nor would I ever go for Emma as Ian. I want Perry to get his shot and grow up a little.

Guess my runs will be at minimum:
Attempted Ian/Lena/Holly
Attempted Ian/Lena/Holly + Lena w/ Team Seymour (this also happens to be my blind playthrough)
Ian/Cindy and Lena/Holly
Ian/Cindy and Lena/Seymour
Ian/Holly and Lena/Louise

sorry for the wall of text lol
 
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Tarmogo

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And again -- if this IS what's actually going on -- that's kind of ridiculous given that it's not stopping any number of potential slutty shenanigans with Mike/Robert/Jeremy/etc. Which is good and exactly how it should be, imo. It just seems weird and inconsistent that it's prohibitive here. And i definitely hope it's not a sign of things to come.
I completely agree that it seems restrictive given the opportunity for Lena to be with anyone else regardless of the ian_lena_dating variable. Currently it just locks out interaction with Holly. This really sucks for people who are playing for the IanxLenaxHolly throuple route (which I'm one of).

This was almost certainly done as a response to the discourse surrounding the café scene with Lena and Ian where she confronts him about Holly. I believe Eva's intentions with blocking the LenaxHolly scenes was so that the player couldn't scold Ian, then immediately turn around and sleep with Holly as Lena. Makes perfect sense if IanxHolly did happen and the café scene occurs. However, it does feel restrictive if IanxLena have been faithful up till this point but now the player wants to be able to have LenaxHolly happen. Especially feels off if the player has Lena flirt with Holly and choose to think about her while masturbating, but now can't engage with her when given the chance due to the ian_lena_dating variable being 'true'.
 

BlandChili

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What a dedicated post. :giggle:
Ian/Lena/Holly:
my OTP. I get dopamine hits from seeing the three of them in the cafe. but to actually get this scenario... Does Ian need to be merely 'dating' Lena, or madly in love with her? What choices involving Holly opening up in various ways affect this? Do Ian and Lena need to be bigdick successful artists? Is poly even an end-game option??? It seems like it would be, as Holly is the character both Ian and Lena are interested in, like a knot tying the red string... but you never know...
Hard to tell at this point. Eva has made comments previously that hint towards the trio outcome very possibly being an option but she also added that it would take specific choices. Before the beta change my assumption was that "kiss Holly / No Ian sex" was the way to go for that outcome, now I am not so sure.
Ian/Holly, Lena/Holly:
also good. sweeter than i ever thought i'd find from a game I downloaded for porn. Think I prefer Ian/Holly more because Lena/Holly give 'gal pal' vibes sometimes but at the same time I liked a lot of their scenes in a romantic light too. I'm currently remaking a file with no Ian/Lena so I can do a guilt-free Ian/Holly and copy that for a guilt-free Lena/Holly.
Not to diss you or anything, but be careful about your wording. "Gal pals" are a bit of a meme in the wlw community about people, who aren't women who're attracted to women, dismissing obvious romance between those that are.

Funnily, my initial otp's (going from the character roster, before getting to know the characters and story) was actually Ian/Holly and Lena/Cindy. Lena/Cindy seems far from possible at this point but Holly having a cute lil' crush on Ian from the start really destroyed my interest in their pairing.

When Holly and Lena started having scenes together my romantic senses started to tingle right away and Lena has very consistently been able to desire Holly at least.
Ian/Lena:
Eh.... probably like them as friends more. So far they're both sweet and mostly reasonable adults to each other and can easily be romantic with each other with the only complication being my chaotic hand of god forcing them away from each other by making them horny. No really, once these two went on a date early in my games, i just can't break them up lol. I put off sex repeatedly but then they did it automatically. I can only go far back and make Ian not ask her out to the music store.
I actually do like them as a couple, I just dislike the dual-protag setup alongside the red-string-concept. I think I'd have enjoyed their pairing more if I were only playing from one of their perspectives, but they also have by far the most content together.
Lena/Axel+Seymour:
Obviously very suspicious, but their scenes are surprisingly sexy despite them being a capitalist and a manipulative psycho-chad, but there's a slowly growing taboo being broken that will lead to good drama. Also it'll make me able to have runs where Lena makes money without StalkFap (literally called 'Stalk'fap there's no way I'm touching that on my first runs,) or god forbid, the restaurant with Robert. How this would effect my OTP remains to be seen. My hope is like, a path to go back to a normal life and a path to being a model-sugarbaby-submissive.
I'm actually hoping that some kind of middle-of-the-road options will be available in regards to Seymour, that it doesn't necessarily have to be about agreeing or opposing everything about him.
Ian/Cindy:
Alluring. If Lena and Seymour is my ideal 'corruptive' path for her, than Ian and Cindy is my ideal 'corruptive' path for him. Cindy just has that 'spark' that makes scenes between them very appealing like playing pool or seeing her photoshoot. Her being high-maintenance doesn't really annoy me. For the most part she just doesn't want to be stuck in a rut with her friends that are really Wade's friends. Heh, playing the bad guy is oddly funny whilst my Ian is a sensitive art man.
I think Cindy is the character that Ian has the most chemistry with actually. If there were a path where you could navigate her break-up with Wade and then go for her, they might have been my otp. I'm still curious as to where her story will lead and am still hopeful she will encounter Lena again and be swept off her feet.
Ian/Allison:
Yeah... I played the game my blind at first having Ian pick up chicks and then I couldn't shake off Allison. She slowly became one of my least favorite characters in the game. Despite her 'thing' as an uptight office lady looking to go wild I just find her so.... boring. Much more than Ian/Lena. The true dangers of casual sex.
I actually find aspects of her interesting, I actually like the raw sexual nature of how her and Ian's relationship comes across. I wouldn't mind some sexual options though, so far Alison really does seem like, and I hate having to say this, a bitch in heat. She is a tall busty goddess, I'd have loved for her to take more of a dominant role to Ian.
Lena/Louise:
I WOULD bc I genuinely like Louise more than some other players. she reminds me of someone with borderline personality disorder... but it just seemed too awkward and sudden after the Jeremy situation. And I learned when my main characters have sex with their friend you're not gonna shake them off for a while. I'll at least see what her scenes are like.
Agreed, the main thing that actually keeps me from Louise is that I feel like Lena is exploiting her. I do hope their pairing will have a more romantic option too, even though I actually love dom/sub themes.
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Tarmogo

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Ian/Lena/Holly:
my OTP. I get dopamine hits from seeing the three of them in the cafe. but to actually get this scenario... Does Ian need to be merely 'dating' Lena, or madly in love with her? What choices involving Holly opening up in various ways affect this? Do Ian and Lena need to be bigdick successful artists? Is poly even an end-game option??? It seems like it would be, as Holly is the character both Ian and Lena are interested in, like a knot tying the red string... but you never know...
This is the route I'm most invested in as well, but currently the game doesn't fully support it. I'm sure it will be fleshed out in future updates since it seems to be a popular path among fans.
 

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Ian/Allison:
Yeah... I played the game my blind at first having Ian pick up chicks and then I couldn't shake off Allison. She slowly became one of my least favorite characters in the game. Despite her 'thing' as an uptight office lady looking to go wild I just find her so.... boring. Much more than Ian/Lena. The true dangers of casual sex.
That's interesting because I'm kind of the opposite. After playing a Full Alison Playthrough I actually like her the most with Ian (right now) and I think she is a very good written character with flaws and depth which will hopefully be more fleshed out in future Updates.
At first I also didn't like her espescially how bitchy she behaved with all the other friends and the whole Jeremy Thing was and is still really annoying but yeah after going full IanxAlison this changed and I also think part of her "boring" Character is that you clearly can see through the Game that she is very likely in Love with Ian and I'm interested how this will play out later when Things could get more dramatic espescially when she faces Lena.

But I totally understand your Point just had to say a few words as a rare Alison Fan! :D
 
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