VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

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Eleanorduval

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punisher33 said:
Yes, Holy truly has an intriguing character path—either a loyal, innocent girlfriend or a full-blown wild sex explorer. In that sense, she shares similarities with Ashley from GGGB.



Mark is a sophisticated choice, but to be honest, he never really caught my interest in either game. :D


As for the Lena/Cindy scene, adding Axel or Ian into the equation could make it happen. Either way, that would be a dream trio!
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Cindy is Ian mistress,so 3some can’t happen.Cindy and Lena are in concurrence for wildcat,so no 3some also. I don’t think Eva wants to add 3some everywhere
 
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manscout

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So maybe my fault on the wording since Ian can technically "date" Lena without actually fucking her for almost the entire game, but I just tested it in a run and you cannot get the holly + lena trio without having Ian date Lena up until the point he starts dating Holly.

This is really disappointing, I wanted to do a playthrough where I reached the trio by having both Ian and Lena being mostly just friends up until the point where the both of them pursued Holly and that led into the trio (avoids drama over Ian having slept with Cherry, lets Lena also play the field more with no drama).

But as it turns out, if Lena doesn't date Ian during chapters 4-6 (didn't toggle on "ian_lena_dating" switch in chapter 3 by having Lena ask Ian for a 3rd date), then when Ian starts dating Holly the game never toggles on the "ian_lena_over" switch which causes Holly to just...not really care about the fact she kissed Lena in chapter 11?
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This seems like such a pointless restriction, even when you keep Ian and Lena mostly as just friends there's still a good deal of sexual tension and attraction between them, so why does this route kill the possibility of the trio before Ian can even decide how he feels about adding Lena to his relationship with Holly in chapter 12? If anything this is even worse because it means Holly kissed Lena and then decided to keep it a secret from Ian...

It seems that the game treats "ian_lena_dating" never being turned on as meaning the player never wants Ian and Lena to ever be a couple. I dislike the idea of never having a potential late entry point to the IanxLena relationship but I can respect that design decision. But the trio with Holly should be an entire different dynamic, it makes no sense to have it depend on Ian and Lena having dated a couple of times more.
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God I just hate how the nonsense relationship drama is completely baked into the route to the Lena-Ian-Holly throuple. As mentioned in the above post, for no good reason it does not work if you try to get it by having Ian date Holly and stay as Lena's friend from the start.

Even if I try to keep the relationship between Ian and Lena as technically dating but as low-stakes as possible (they never had sex, neither is in love with the other), after Ian "breaks up" with her so he can be with Holly she will still be somewhat whiny in her monologues. This is still probably the route with the least amount of drama (considering how much of a minefield the LenaxIan relationship is in regards to what counts as cheating and what upsets one another), but it is still a bummer that you can't just sidestep all that BS.

Also the main downside of a pure IanxHolly playthrough is still that, without the throuple, Lena's side is just so screwed up. It is all sociopaths, cheaters, or clingy and emotionally draining people if you take Ian and Holly out of Lena's dating pool. She can still get some good sex scenes with some random tertiary characters, but on the relationship field it was so bad that while finishing my previous run I was almost sold on Stan being the best remaining option. It was THAT bad.
 
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manscout said:
Also the main downside of a pure IanxHolly playthrough is still that, without the throuple, Lena's side is just so screwed up. It is all sociopaths, cheaters, or clingy and emotionally draining people if you take Ian and Holly out of Lena's dating pool. She can still get some good sex scenes with some random tertiary characters, but on the relationship field it was so bad that while finishing my previous run I was almost sold on Stan being the best remaining option. It was THAT bad.
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What're the chances Billy is ready to swoop in and be a wholesome romance? :geek:
 
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BlandChili said:
Again, I have no issue with this. The problem I have with Jeremy is that he doesn't own up to it like a player would. That is why I call him feeble.
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He's more or less a regular douchebag. He wiggles within the confines of a relationship with a girl with attachment issues, that gets him an easy lay and cheats around. He goes for anything that moves, etc. That's really hella standard and not exactly inconsistent with what you see in the real world.

BlandChili said:
It's not really, not exactly at least. Good looks sure, a wad of confidence perhaps, at least enough to pretend to attempt game. Jeremy is a bit inconsistent though since he for example has to be convinced to get with Emma and he plays a little boy's game with Louise. The latter point though goes into guesswork about the background of the story which isn't necessarily very constructive, but I don't think it's impossible to think Louise might not have gotten with him at all if he had dispelled her notions about a relationship, like a player with a conscience, such as Jeremy professes himself to be, could have done. Regardless I don't really view Jeremy as a real "free for all" player, he is somewhat particular about where he spends his efforts, he chases low-hanging fruit other than Ivy and Lena has to throw herself at him for content, it's not really him being a player so much as it's Lena being one.
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So I don't find him very convincing as a player type.
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Imma be honest with you, I think we may have different definitions of "player". Players ain't attractive guys who have women throwing themselves at them. Those guys aren't "players", they're just hot guys who realistically do very little to get action. Players are dudes who don't commit and thus flirt with every woman in their path. There is only one game for them and it's the numbers game. :BootyTime:

Most guys I know IRL who I consider players are good-looking dudebros who have virtually no inhibition and no shame, they never have enough self-awareness to know they're acting like dumbasses. They hardly if ever care if they get rejected because it's a numbers game. They have hundreds of lays but thousands of DMs where they got left on read and because of the nature of their chase, most of their "conquests" are low-hanging fruits with the occasional baddie. If they get a mid girl who has attachment issues, that's cool. If they get a fattie, that's cool. If they get the naive girl who wants a relationship, that's cool. If their bro gets them a lay, that's cool.

Imo Jeremy perfectly embodies that. Axel as a character would be closer to your version of player.

BlandChili said:
It's a wholesome hobby though, just like bird watching!
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Sure is :BootyTime:
 
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BlandChili said:
Ian or Axel would ruin it for me personally. Not that I'd be opposed to a male character being involved, I just happen to find both of the most realistic options unappealing for one reason or another. :D
I wouldn't discount any lesbian pairing though, at least not for singular scenes at least, any routes developing at this point becomes increasingly unlikely as the chapter number increases.. :confused:
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I can create a Lena/Cindy scene for you with AI :D

BlandChili said:
Right, he mainly benefits a bit in the same way that Marcel does from being outside of all the main story bullshit lol. Because they are barely involved with other characters, there isn't really a dramatic stake to them but for that same reason they aren't really assholes or losers in the same way many of the other male characters can be either. They win sort of by default because they are fairly inoffensive besides just being bland sexual options.
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Hmm, that's a valid perspective, yes.

Eleanorduval said:
Cindy is Ian mistress,so 3some can’t happen.Cindy and Lena are in concurrence for wildcat,so no 3some also. I don’t think Eva wants to add 3some everywhere
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I see the Wildcats option as more likely compared to Ian.
 
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Poromies

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So.. One thing I can't seem to hack is to get Lena + Holly fuck, she'll back off each time. What's the key to do it? If you're dating Ian, no go. If you're fuckbuddies with Ian, no go. If Ian + Holly are dating, again no go (well somewhat understandable) .. Lena + Ian need to be completely detached for that piece of nerd muff-diving happening?

Ok, the one exception is threesome with Ivy I guess, which eventually leads into that uncomfortable glory hole business..
 
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manscout

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Poromies said:
So.. One thing I can't seem to hack is to get Lena + Holly fuck, she'll back off each time. What's the key to do it? If you're dating Ian, no go. If you're fuckbuddies with Ian, no go. If Ian + Holly are dating, again no go (well somewhat understandable) .. Lena + Ian need to be completely detached for that piece of nerd muff-diving happening?

Ok, the one exception is threesome with Ivy I guess, which eventually leads into that uncomfortable glory hole business..
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Normal LenaxHolly romance requires Lena to not be dating Ian (this includes being fuckbudies) and you need Ian and Holly to not be dating each other.

Ian and Lena can have dated and fucked in that playthrough but then you need to find a way to make them break up (e.g have Ian and Robert fight and then have Lena be pissed about that, have Ian be upset at Lena's stalkfap content, + probably some other ways I can't remember right now).
 
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Radnos Salazar said:
Ian says "I wouldn't mind getting into Ivy's panties myself", what context do you think that is? Is that a suggestion of Ian also getting a Solo scene with Ivy? Or that is getting into her panties via a threesome context? I hope its the former but i want to know your views as well.
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Ivy has been potentially flirting with Ian for a while, if you managed to impress her with earlier game choices. So yes, the idea that there'd be Ian/Ivy scene in addition to Lena/Ivy and Lena/Ian/Ivy is a possibility.

Of course, it is another story if Eva Kiss will ever give up on her vice that is edging SerHawkes :whistle:
 
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