Yeah i hope so and it would make sense, the dialogue felt alittle cheap and the scene weren't as sexy as it could have been
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Those patches are always just simple text changes for stories where MC is living with their attractive "roommate" and "landlord", ect. The scenario is already pretty much baked into those games. You'd have to go to great lengths in rewriting the text to get an even semi-plausible story with that fetish here, unless you were to take the assets and expand the story in Ren'Py. Don't think anyone's going to those lengths.
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No other android version also have problem background of word is white and word also white.
If this is the result of Ian smoking ORS, then it's not a bug.
edit: But if you know that already, try pressing rollback. from there on, just follow ian's hints.
Tulrek
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Always try "Ignore" first. You might miss a small bit but it will be fixed in the next release (beta / Final / revised).
With IanxCherry you might be right espescially with Lena there no matter what and Cherry leaving when Ian goes after Lena but I think IanxEmma is actually the most possible Scene you can get in this Chapter without creating some new scenario out of the blue. Emma is very present in this Chapter and after they take the ORS Perry could black out or something like this? I still can't see a different scenario for Ian in this Chapter besides maybe more with Holly or Minerva but they already have Scenes.
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Look how mesmerizing her entire expression is 
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van321
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So for Ian to not drop Holly like an absolute dick at the beginning of Chapter 8, he needs to completely ignore Lena from the start? Ian+Holly make such a nice couple, but where does that leave Lena? This goes to my main complaint with this AVN: Lena has one love interest and everyone else is a degenerate scumbag that only fits as a fuck buddy. Poor girl can't find some male accountant at the live drawing?
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harsha_26
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As i said already in previous comments, evakiss previous VN or this VN, focus will be made more on how to make Female MC as a slut, whore, BBC addict, slave, exhibitionist and less on romance.So for Ian to not drop Holly like an absolute dick at the beginning of Chapter 8, he needs to completely ignore Lena from the start? Ian+Holly make such a nice couple, but where does that leave Lena? This goes to my main complaint with this AVN: Lena has one love interest and everyone else is a degenerate scumbag that only fits as a fuck buddy. Poor girl can't find some male accountant at the live drawing?
But you take Ash boyfriend in GGGB or male MC Ian in this VN, less focus was given to maledom, alpha non-ntr corruption, hardcore vanilla, rough hate fuck, main Li lena as a cuckquean for Ian's girls etc.
And more focus given on Ian's romance or how to make him a beta cuck for lena's Seymour or a voyeur for Jeremy adventures.
I still have hope on this VN for Ian's Non-NTR routes to be more degenerate and hardcore with his time with lena. But let's review how it goes after a year maybe.
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Well, I could've phrased that better, but what I'm trying to stress is that at least half (and I think a lot more) users are very likely to run through this scenario. The vast majority of us play several+ play-throughs and though I understand a few users purposefully avoid Lena/Ian, the game is literally built around them, strongly pushing the relationship. Their reactions in common routes like this need to be believable and the Ian/Holly trip - one of two possible routes in Chapter 7 - all but railroads you into being kissed by Holly. There's literally only one selection that prevents her from throwing herself on Ian and that selection is a pretty insensitive shutdown approach for a friend expressing insecurities, considering you've had to make caring choices to even go on the trip. Most won't select it. But even just an "I like you", the most neutral response, and Holly's latched to your face, locking you into the scenario in question whether you sleep with her or not. The likelihood that Ian is with Lena and that she's got a dicking or licking from at least one of her many sex options is pretty great, I'd say. I think you're diminishing people's concerns here on the likelihood of running into this. Not sure why.
Save for a few on here whose main concern in the Ian/Lena/Holly arc was something akin to "Lena's a hypocrite" or "Ian's a weak cuck... WTF?!?"... I think that's a huge mischaracterization of what most who voiced concern last weekend were put-off about. For the vast majority - and there were quite a few - it was something missing in the writing to make it all plausible, which Eva's had a consistently good track-record on in the past for the main arcs. Whether it's adding pushback from Ian in the Robert situation (or internal justification for his reluctance) or it's some mental gymnastics we could read in Lena's thoughts to justify her actions if she's slept around: something was missing and bullshit detectors went off.
Writing isn't about showing everything. But it is about illuminating key parts in a story that justify actions and being true to its own internal logic and writing style. Miss those and people here for the writing will sense it, which greatly diminishes our investment in the story. Some of those key parts were missed here, and while it might be a take-it-or-leave-it for you, it kills the enjoyment for a lot of us. We've all got different make-it or break-its that invest us in a game. I've quit literally all but a handful of VNs within the first few minutes due to uneven writing. As much as I'm there for a kink + good artwork, I need that element too and Eva's usually been good there. Just saying it'll kill this one for me if the paths get so unwieldy that her writing continues to suffer like this on the main paths - (though more from lack of time than lack of talent)
It's like how some of us checked out of GOT mid-season-six or seven. While others had their WTF moment in Season 8 when the unearned plot-twists finally caught up to them.
Hopefully the text addition Eva mentioned is the one that'll fix this. It's the reason we wanted to share our opinions in the first place.
Oh. One more note. "Perfect is the enemy of progress" - or something like that. Eva knows there was some mess in this chapter and makes reference to her struggle within the dialogue throughout it. Another reason I was hoping she'd clean it up a bit before the Ch 8 final.
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Anybody else having problem starting the game? It kinda freezes on me after talking to Lena in the cafe
SpikeZg
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No. You can fk Lena all you want, just don't tell Jeremy "I'm falling for her" in ch 7. If you say that, then yes Ian will end up single in ch 8 since he drops both Holly and Lena, or rather they dumped him.
But if you tell Jeremy "no strings attached" in ch 7, then Ian will stay with Holly after relaying the news that he fked her to Lena. That's what I found out anyways
.Of course you can always kiss Holly which leaves things in the middle ground imo. Hard to tell where Eva Kiss is going with this, because if Ian does not fk Holly, you'll see Ivy suggesting to Lena to share Ian with Holly, so perhaps Holly is not completely locked out for Ian yet
?Cucks are like Smurfs. There's really a huge variety of them. Daddy figures, nerds, angry ones, push-overs and some who like pies in the face. The only thing in common is blue balls and a shared woman.
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I swear you I wasn’t trying to diminish the concerns of anyone, only the alleged number of playthroughs in which this situation happens. And that is NOT 50% of them. Just that.
Again, I wasn’t trying to mischaracterize anyone concerns (and btw, you’re the one that said “Lena’s a sociopath”), only expressing my disagreement about precisely characterizing some of Lena’s possible wrongdoings as mere missteps, when IMHO are more than that; and how that can explain she not stopping to contemplate her own mistakes, being (in those routes) a person that previously -guided by the player- has shown quite a selfish and entitled behaviour.
And if you’ve read some of my other messages about this issue you should know by now that, while I don’t agree on the whole scene being such an example of bad writing you claim it is, I’m in favor of adding the chance for Ian to confront Lena about Robert and wouldn’t mind some tweaks regarding her inner monologue in a few cases. So I don’t know what we're arguing about anymore, really, especially considering -as I said in yet another message- the argument has been rendered moot due to Eva taking another pass at it. We’ll see what she decides...
I think you might be reading too much into that, I'd kindly invite you to maybe take a mental step back and realize not everything in this update turns around the scene that worries you. Eva at Discord has talked about the scene where she struggled, took a week to write, and caused a bit of writer's block and (spoiler alert) it’s not this one but the sexting involving Stalkfap/Ian/Robert/Mike: it juggles so many variables (from the previous stalkfap video and DMs with subscribers, the other partner involved in the sexting, Lena’s previous experiences with them, agreeing or not to make the custom video…) that it was hell to write for her.