VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[DavDR]

What makes you think I'm only judging on one criteria? The previous arguments about working and income are only one aspect in my like or dislike of a character. Seymour is wealthy, yes. But we don't know how he got it. We do know that he's entirely unethical (to the point of being a stereotype) with the way he uses it.

 

[CoalPhelps]

About Jess and Ivy. Actually more like Jess is Cindy, Ian and... Perry! Wait, don't throw tomatoes.

Although Jess was a possible guide for Ashley into the world of corruption and she had advices similar to Ivy, however, unlike the latter, she was still not a dark sociopath, weaving a network of intrigues that were not immediately clear. Ivy has clear goals and plans, and she achieves them in such anti-social ways. Jess was just a lost person who lost herself in glamor, fame and entertainment due to a conflict of interest with her parents. She had a creative spirit and creative passion, but she could not and no longer wanted to realize them because of this conflict. And also she had no real friends, only gigolos like Jack. And so friendship with Ash can help her get back to what she originally wanted, as she gets what she was deprived of.

In Ivy, there is nothing like that, she enjoys what she does, as it is completely her decision. She knows how to use her sexuality and depravity to her advantage. And she enjoys corrupting others like Lena and Holly. And she does this with specific goals, as another tool for her own promotion. When Jess pushes Ash onto her path, she does it without much malice, just out of inertia, as she lives like that herself.

This is the big difference between them.

 

[BloodyMares]

Jack was reality-tv celeb. He had a 3 million dollar car and lived in a penthouse. Jeremy trains in a gym, Jack owns the gym. If I was to compare Jeremy with anyone in GGGB, it would be Doug. As he comes off as a walking'-talking' dildo, there to be used and tossed away after use. He's also mainly there to cover the same fetish as Tyorne with that black version of Jonah Falco's cock.

No, Doug's role is taken by Robert. Even the inner monologue of Ash and Lena regarding them both is quite similar where they're not impressed or feel bored etc. (but at least Doug knew how to fuck unlike the fastest man alive Robert).
Jeremy is totally Kevin who was a Jack wannabe. They even wear similar jackets.

 

[lcvargas]

anyone made a new fan signature with Seymour yet? I want to update.

 

[DavDR]

You know what would be hilarious? If Lena agreed to the threesome that everyone is constantly asking for, only to have Ian realize at the last minute that she was talking about an MMF.

 

[aris666]

people are not asking for threesome with exactly Lena to be fair - just FFM threesome for Ian

 

[Skylark21]

Imo the only way Ian could ever get a FFM threesome is with Lena.I don't think Cindy would ever agree for that, Alison and Holly definitely not, Emma might be a choice but since she is Ian's guilty pleasure only person who can join them is Lena.

 

[aris666]

Imo the only way Ian could ever get a FFM threesome is with Lena.I don't think Cindy would ever agree for that, Alison and Holly definitely not, Emma might be a choice but since she is Ian's guilty pleasure only person who can join them is Lena.

Agreed - as all female characters in game are right now (and as Ian is right now, as well) - almost no chance. It would need more progression in the story. More development of Ian as character.

 

[monk_56]

Agreed - as all female characters in game are right now (and as Ian is right now, as well) - almost no chance. It would need more progression in the story. More development of Ian as character.

We already needed some degree of suspension of disbelief in regards to Lena's characterization to shoehorn a bunch of these other 3somes in there.

Based on Holly's character she isn't exactly opposed to 3-somes with people she idolizes.

Then there is Allison, who is looking for some sort of edge over Lena and she already floated the idea of 3some with a friend (albeit a guy) - but still, maybe that is how she can get that edge- she is constantly flailing around for attention already.

Why would a Holly x Emma x Ian 3some be any less believable than the Lena x Ivy x Holly 3 some or the Louise x Ivy x Jeremy 3some?

Why would a Allison x Emma x Ian 3 some be any less believable than a Allison x Jeremy x Ian 3some?

Hell, in some cases it'd b even more believable since I've literally told Jeremy to fuck off what feels like 20 times and made every effort to get him to hate me but its still an option I can choose

Addendum: An Ian x Cherry x Emma 3some would also be very reasonable in the plot trajectory.

 

[aris666]

We already needed some degree of suspension of disbelief in regards to Lena's characterization to shoehorn a bunch of these other 3somes in there.

Why would a Holly x Emma x Ian 3some be any less believable than the Lena x Ivy x Holly 3 some or the Louise x Ivy x Jeremy 3some?

Agreed on this one as well. Ivy is used here as "deus ex machina" to overcome any suspension of disbelief. That's why it would be great to get more IanxIvy content - which could unlock more various developments

edit: by the way, it's funny that Lena is against threesome due to her past with Axel and Cherry, but she is ok to suck dick of her friend's boyfriend (with said friend in the same room + another friend)

 

[monk_56]

Agreed on this one as well. Ivy is used here as "deus ex machina" to overcome any suspension of disbelief. That's why it would be great to get more IanxIvy content - which could unlock more various developments

edit: by the way, it's funny that Lena is against threesome due to her past with Axel and Cherry, but she is ok to suck dick of her friend's boyfriend

And to fuck her cheating Ex while she has a boyfriend, and to fuck someone else's DJ boyfriend, and to fuck her friend's boyfriend in her own room while she has the lena_loves_ian tag in her friends own room on her friend's bed.....

Okay Lena....okay

Lena is like Schrödinger's hypocritical-dumb-bitch.

In fairness Ian is a bit like Schrödinger's asshole with Cindy / Minerva; but Lena really takes the cake with characterization contradiction.

 

[BloodyMares]

edit: by the way, it's funny that Lena is against threesome due to her past with Axel and Cherry, but she is ok to suck dick of her friend's boyfriend (with said friend in the same room + another friend)

Said friend in some branches also encourages Lena to jerk her boyfriend off just because she wants to cock-block Jeremy from getting anywhere close with Ivy. And if Louise herself can't be the option, then she wants Lena to take one for the team. So, if that's what happened, one could excuse Lena's behavior as doing a service for her friend.

In fairness Ian is a bit like Schrödinger's asshole with Cindy / Minerva

And Alison's butt.

 

[JohnnySolo]

by the way, it's funny that Lena is against threesome due to her past with Axel and Cherry, but she is ok to suck dick of her friend's boyfriend (with said friend in the same room + another friend)

Well in the end this is your version of Lena, there is not one Lena in the game. Depending on what you choose for her you get different version of Lena and one of them is the hypocrite Lena.

 

[Daken9]

Said friend in some branches also encourages Lena to jerk her boyfriend off just because she wants to cock-block Jeremy from getting anywhere close with Ivy. And if Louise herself can't be the option, then she wants Lena to take one for the team. So, if that's what happened, one could excuse Lena's behavior as doing a service for her friend.

That's such porn mentality. Like, sure he's her bf's friend, and sure she's staunchly opposed to some 'worse' things, but she did give him a boner, so she better take responsibility

Maybe Lena's got a switch in her brain or some shit, would explain a lot.

 

[aris666]

Well in the end this is your version of Lena, there is not one Lena in the game. Depending on what you choose for her you get different version of Lena and one of them is the hypocrite Lena.

I have several saves to see as much as possible scenes and developments. But good boy/good girl gameplay - doesn't have a lot XXX content. So "bad" routes leaves more impressions sadly.

In fairness Ian is a bit like Schrödinger's asshole with Cindy / Minerva; but Lena really takes the cake with characterization contradiction.

Yes, in Cindy/Minerva case - yes. In case of Minerva, it would be much more interesting for me to have revenge without all that "revenge" sex thing

 

[PervySageKem]

Yeah, Lena is such a weird girl. I've been recently trying out Lena without the word "no" in her vocabulary and she makes no sense at all. I just can't get into it, I'm forcing my way through the scenes to read the dialogue and it is really weird. BTW: the fact that some art from Robert and Ian's sex scenes was reused between the two... It's so fucking lame...

I have several saves to see as much as possible scenes and developments. But good boy/good girl gameplay - doesn't have a lot XXX content. So "bad" routes leaves more impressions sadly.

This for me is the saddest thing. It's a game that suggests and implies we should try out a wholesome romance, then provides next to no content on said wholesome romance. And you can't avoid it - I've chosen every bad option when Ian and Lena are together, to try and make them hate each other, but Eva is FORCING THEM together, regardless of whatever they do.

It's dumb logic. "Here is a romance about two characters. Now watch them fuck literally everybody else."

If you play the game "as intended", a nice, pure romance between the two (it's what they are both looking for after they've been hurt so badly), the game is a great romance. There's just not a lot of content for a game taking so long to finish.

It's like I was doing a Superhero movie and in the middle of the movie it stopped for a two hour sidetrack of the Villain killing people, or the Hero studying for his college exams.

 

[Skylark21]

Based on Holly's character she isn't exactly opposed to 3-somes with people she idolizes.

If I'm not wrong Holly isn't opposed to threesome only when she's on what should I say corruption route, which basically stops once she enters in relationship with Ian or Lena goes after her, and I doubt someone shy and bit insecure girl like current Holly would agree for something like threesome it would too out of character for her.

Then there is Allison, who is looking for some sort of edge over Lena and she already floated the idea of 3some with a friend (albeit a guy) - but still, maybe that is how she can get that edge- she is constantly flailing around for attention already.

You said it yourself she's constantly flailing around for attention and I don't think someone looking for attention will want competition, would she?

Why would a Allison x Emma x Ian 3 some be any less believable than a Allison x Jeremy x Ian 3some?

Umm, maybe because Alison basically says Fuck you to Ian if she catch him with Emma?

edit: by the way, it's funny that Lena is against threesome due to her past with Axel and Cherry, but she is ok to suck dick of her friend's boyfriend (with said friend in the same room + another friend)

I don't think threesome was ever a problem for Lena (atleast I don't remember it being) cheating was. Axel cheated on her with Cherry thn had audacity to propose threesome with same girl he cheated with.

 

[aris666]

I don't think threesome was ever a problem for Lena (atleast I don't remember it being) cheating was. Axel cheated on her with Cherry thn had audacity to propose threesome with same girl he cheated with.

Nice, I will need to replay the game some time soon to renew my memories. That means that it shouldn't be a problem to add such content after some more development in story

 

[Skylark21]

This for me is the saddest thing. It's a game that suggests and implies we should try out a wholesome romance, then provides next to no content on said wholesome romance. And you can't avoid it - I've chosen every bad option when Ian and Lena are together, to try and make them hate each other, but Eva is FORCING THEM together, regardless of whatever they do.

It's dumb logic. "Here is a romance about two characters. Now watch them fuck literally everybody else."

If you play the game "as intended", a nice, pure romance between the two (it's what they are both looking for after they've been hurt so badly), the game is a great romance. There's just not a lot of content for a game taking so long to finish.

It's from her patreon
What is Our Red String?
Our Red String is my attempt to take what I learned from Good Girl Gone Bad and, hopefully, create an even better narrative experience. This time around you play as two characters, Lena and Ian as they attempt to find themselves, chase their dreams and seek love or lust in accordance with your guiding hand.
Wherever did you get idea from? This game was never about wholesome romance, it's part of it? Yes but that's it.

 

[monk_56]

If I'm not wrong Holly isn't opposed to threesome only when she's on what should I say corruption route, which basically stops once she enters in relationship with Ian or Lena goes after her, and I doubt someone shy and bit insecure girl like current Holly would agree for something like threesome it would too out of character for her.

You said it yourself she's constantly flailing around for attention and I don't think someone looking for attention will want competition, would she?

Umm, maybe because Alison basically says Fuck you to Ian if she catch him with Emma?

I don't think threesome was ever a problem for Lena (atleast I don't remember it being) cheating was. Axel cheated on her with Cherry thn had audacity to propose threesome with same girl he cheated with.

Holly x Ian 3 some considerations

Why exactly does corruption have to stop when Holly flips to Ian's route? Is Ian too much of a good boy to do kinky things with his partner?

If you want to be really technical and look at the game's coding. Holly can still have the same number of Holly_Change points (basically the points that determine how bold holly is) when she enters her relationship with Ian or Lena and she is okay with a ladies 3some with two of her friends at those levels.

Alison x Ian 3 some considerations

Its another vector in which Alison could try to be competitively neurotic / grab Ian's attention.

There is a deep distinction between Ian choosing to go with Emma over Alison vs Ian/Alison inviting another female character to join their play after first talking about the option.

One situation is inclusive of Alison and treats her as the #1 and the other chooses another option over her without deference to her consent or opinion.