VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.13.3.4] [Eva Kiss]

[monk_56]

If you play like a cuck ,you get cucked so don't play like one

Kek.
Insulting Ian in the ORS thread is like kicking a bee-hive of average Joes.
Everyone rolls out a hyperbole or a straw-man argument to try to knock what you said back down.
It'd be nice if people actually read the comments that are made and responded to them accordingly instead of just spouting random truisms like they are refuting anything.

Simply talking about content break-down. A LOT of the in game content allows for the cuckoldry fantasy. Ian is physically smaller/weaker than the other men as a design intent. He is decidedly middling in a lot of ways as a design intent. He gets funneled into very specific routes and doesn't get much limelight with the gals. Meanwhile Lena can fuck anything that moves while still being with him. He has what, around 40% fewer scenes than Lena and a bunch of the scenes on his route are just him watching Jeremy's conquests?

Sure he can also be played in a way that fulfills the self-insert fantasy of the average Joe overcoming their deficiencies, rising to the occasion, and making the best with the gifts God gave them ect. The game focuses on passion, romance, technique, and stamina as equalizers for him being average in other ways.

His story as a writer is pretty cool.

Doesn't change the content break-down or his design much though. Game is much more suitable for cuck Ian than it is for an empowered Ian.

 

[doctor13]

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Not sure about this one. In the Mark blowjob pic she has her normal hair. There is no hair down variant (unless it's on the to-do list for the final version).

 

[goodguy80]

Gallery unlocker anyone, please?

 

[nevt2050ptr]

Ian is not depicted as weak just because of plot reasons, He is weak when compared to Axel, Jeremy and Mike no matter how much you invest in Strength and athleticism. Do you honestly think Ian with month or two gym and practice can beat and outperform Axel and Jeremy who are physically stronger and are training lot longer then him? It might've been possible if ORS was typical male protagonist harem game but fortunately it's not.

Besides those reasons it would be weird that he could beat them when the game is in 10 of approximetly 20 chapters.

 

[Zarendargar]

Gallery unlocker anyone, please?

https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-v10-0-alpha-eva-kiss.48813/post-9502010

 

[Jugovic]

What’s new guys? Worth playing? Does Lena get her ass checks busted and slurps crack cocaine?

 

[aris666]

Ian is not depicted as weak just because of plot reasons, He is weak when compared to Axel, Jeremy and Mike no matter how much you invest in Strength and athleticism. Do you honestly think Ian with month or two gym and practice can beat and outperform Axel and Jeremy who are physically stronger and are training lot longer then him? It might've been possible if ORS was typical male protagonist harem game but fortunately it's not.

It's a game - not reality - what's a point of adding stats, if those have little impact on the outcomes. And if, despite the stats, player character has to loose - it's because plot needs it - because story requires it. In the beginning of the game Ian was not depicted as out of shape slob - he was already going to the gym for some time already (though he was not doing martial arts seriously before that moment yet)

 

[sonhot]

Been a while since i played. Wish i could skip playing as Lena. I don't really know what to do for her, most of the guys other than Ian (and maybe the rich old guy too) seems like trashes and i already have another girl in mind for Ian. Is that Jeremy guy going to be a problem no matter which girl Ian pursues?

 

[Idontknowme]

I think there is an issue in telling Axel that the pics came out well. It requires relationship >3 and the max is locked at 3.

 

[KirbyBlamBlam]

Hello, anyone got the mac version?

 

[Erectosaurus]

The weak should fear the strong

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[scor099]

He's supposed to have some flexibility- but he is designed like one on a lot of levels. He's not a very satisfying male MC.

Too tiny and he doesn't get good scene content. The game is mostly focused on Lena and corruption. The men who can cuck him are larger, more attractive, have better scene content, and awful personalities. He has one 3some in the game and it is sharing Allison with one of them. A lot of his content is jerking it to pics of better men fucking his potential LI. If he shows interest in more than one woman he basically gets kicked out of their route content. Hell, every rotation one of his scenes is literally just the same art as two other generic male characters who can get swapped out for him.

Game is heavily focused on Lena. Ian is an afterthought- and he looks like a little bitch.

im gonna ignore all this bullshit because you can mold Ian into whatever you want but my problem is with one thing, "A lot of his content is jerking it to pics of better men fucking his potential LI" what do you mean by that? Ian can fuck all the women except Ivy which will happen soon and he can only jerk off to pics in only two or three scenes i think. if your Ian likes jerking off to pics of his LI thats your thing if you like to beat your meat to it but my Ian gets laid, so stop talking bullshit.

 

[Skylark21]

It's a game - not reality - what's a point of adding stats, if those have little impact on the outcomes. And if, despite the stats, player character has to loose - it's because plot needs it - because story requires it. In the beginning of the game Ian was not depicted as out of shape slob - he was already going to the gym for some time already (though he was not doing martial arts seriously before that moment yet)

And what difference will those stats make? Having stats in a game also mean NPCs has them too albeit hidden ones, so let's say Ian has 8 points in Strength, Jeremy or Axel will definently have higher points then him cause you know obvious reasons. Stats or not as of right now, Ian is weaker thn Jeremy, Axel and Mike.

 

[nevt2050ptr]

It's a game - not reality - what's a point of adding stats, if those have little impact on the outcomes. And if, despite the stats, player character has to loose - it's because plot needs it - because story requires it. In the beginning of the game Ian was not depicted as out of shape slob - he was already going to the gym for some time already (though he was not doing martial arts seriously before that moment yet)

In games, books, movies or other plot driven stories main enemies often fall in the end game. Defeating them at this early stage of game doesn't make sense.

 

[desmosome]

And what difference will those stats make? Having stats in a game also mean NPCs has them too albeit hidden ones, so let's say Ian has 8 points in Strength, Jeremy or Axel will definently have higher points then him cause you know obvious reasons. Stats or not as of right now, Ian is weaker thn Jeremy, Axel and Mike.

Not that I agree with the take that Ian is a pussy no matter the route, but there are official NPC stat cards.

Of course, the more atheletic guy is not going to win a fight 100% of the time, and these NPC cards are from way earlier in the story. Someone like Jeremy is also training, probably more than Ian, so he's gonna improve his abilities which already started at a higher point.

 

[Badboll]

https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-v10-0-alpha-eva-kiss.48813/post-9502010

still missing like 12 scenes. But oh well they'll be out later.

 

[Badboll]

A while back I made a criticism in here and people started a witch hunt against me. I questioned if Eva was really a woman.

You do realize that's because if Eva is a woman or not doesn't matter.
Not even getting into the whole trans thing, keep that out of it people. Even if Eva is pretending to be a woman and is in fact a man. (yes that has happened before trans was even a thing go figure)
It doesn't matter. I never saw this witchhunt happen, but questioning the state of Eva's gender is not really something that has any bearing on what happens in the game and you getting flack for that makes sense.
You have full control of Lena within the scope of the story that is being told. The core story is the core story and you chose what happens to Lena within that.
If you had full control of Lena and there was countless more options the game would still be on v3 with twice the size and this game is already massive and really hard for Eva to tie everything together both in story and coding.
While I don't agree with some stuff Eva has done, the game is amazing overall.
Also Lena was working as a nude model before she even met Ian. So you have to consider that she is quite liberal with showing off to begin with, she was basically Axels sex slave which she also enjoyed as well. Lena was never a saint, now you can make her more pure from the start if you want and have her only do stuff with Ian and that's a perfectly fine way to play the game too. I prefer Lena doing everything and everyone but that's just me, I don't care about Ian, i think it's wasted dev time to focus too much on him, but the holly part of his story is great. I love holly.
Cindy is great too but I don't like her boyfriend at all, it would be better if he wasn't actually their friend but Cindy was instead and he just existed and Cindy shared her frustrations about him instead.

 

[bloodyasura]

A while back I made a criticism in here and people started a witch hunt against me. I questioned if Eva was really a woman. Because the way she writes the female characters on her VN's are totally through a male mindset. Untill chapter 9, Lena would only succeed in her life if she bent to all men in the VN, let them use her as they wanted. We were "in control" of the character but we had no control over her story. It was made to please any men in the VN. Now, after the new remake of the game, She is forcibly sharing naked pics online.

Then her story at chapter 9, at least, ends with her either doing what that old fart wants or getting fucked in her line of work. She'd be fired from the restaurant and he'd try to fuck her modeling career if she doesn't bend to his wishes. And any guy she'd try to work with would try to force her to have sex with them except for Ian. I am replaying this game now and I think it have gotten worse. since from the started she is already doing fully naked shots. I even saw images on her peoplegram naked even before seeing any picture of Ivy naked who works as a dancer in a night club.

If we were really in control of her as MC, we should choose which path we'd wanna go with her. The same happened to the girl in GGGB. If she doesn't bend to the black dude and fuck all his friends, she'd not succeed either.

LOL what? In GGGB You can get a great career in an advertising agency or a designer, I don’t remember anymore, it doesn’t matter, you don’t have to sleep with the boss or do anything else, you just work and achieve wonderful results, and how slutty you are, it’s up to you . At least in that game. Yes, and here, I suppose you can go on, some kind of musical career or something like that and not fit under everyone.

 

[italianstallionxxx]

can you play as manwhore and lena as a sweet girl who loves ian?

 

[Skylark21]

Not that I agree with the take that Ian is a pussy no matter the route, but there are official NPC stat cards.

Of course, the more atheletic guy is not going to win a fight 100% of the time, and these NPC cards are from way earlier in the story. Someone like Jeremy is also training, probably more than Ian, so he's gonna improve his abilities which already started at a higher point.

I've never said Ian is a pussy though, Jeremy and Axel being stronger then Ian rn is a basic fact because they are physically more buff plus they've been training lot longer thn Ian, what's so hard to understand? I guess some people are just in denial because Ian is MC in the game.