My favorite sequence is when Lena kisses Ian for the first time at the record store and then she turns the corner and kisses Robert passionately and they go to her place for sex. Amazing turnaround.
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Geigi
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That Ian-Lena sex scene was one of the best written sex scenes in FMC games.
I couldn't stand Jack in the beginning but he grew on me and I was positively surprised by his wedding ending.
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I do believe Eva can turn a stereotype characters into good ones, an example is Jack from GGGB, he starts out as just a privileged man-whore but once u start to know him on a deeper level he doesn't as bad as he was painted out to be.
That scene is a classic. It's like she's saying to herself "Enough of this serious lovey dovey/dating/relationship/feelings bullshit, let's get back to plain old fucking".
There are 2 core problems, really -
1 - all other romances are written to either complement or sabotage/kink up the Ian-Lena dynamic. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be fully developed love stories on their own, even in the "love paths".
2 - all male characters are written to either make Ian look better in comparison (all the loser friends) or like a beta cuck (all the "alpha" fuckboys), depending on what you're into. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be three-dimensional characters or compelling love interests on their own.
1 - all other romances are written to either complement or sabotage/kink up the Ian-Lena dynamic. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be fully developed love stories on their own, even in the "love paths".
2 - all male characters are written to either make Ian look better in comparison (all the loser friends) or like a beta cuck (all the "alpha" fuckboys), depending on what you're into. That's their primary purpose, they're not really written to be three-dimensional characters or compelling love interests on their own.
I agree with the second point. But I don't see it with the first. Yes Ian x Lena are pushed the the hardest by the game. But the other romances aren't all geared to enhance Ian x Lena. You can play Ian x Holly or Ian x Cindy straight and not have any real interference from Lena. Unless you meant Lena's romances which I wouldn't even call that. They're all corruption/lust based and not romance, with very few exceptions.
So I was wondering do you guys think Alison would be sleeping with Jeremy if he wasn't one of Ian's good friends? This is based on if you are not sleeping with or dating Alison. To me it always seemed like she was mainly sleeping with him because she hoped it would make Ian jealous/ to get back at him in a "If you won't sleep with me I will just sleep with your friend" kind of way. I can't tell if that is just a duh that is super obvious or if I am looking to deep into that whole thing.
Gicoo
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It's both. Jeremy is an old friend, available and willing to fuck her, but also connected to Ian, so she tries to make Ian jealous through his friend. Its just a very convenient timing for her: She just broke off with her partner, so she is looking through her small social circle, and both Ian (who was taken for years by Gillian beforehand) and Jeremy are available and not named Perry.
Can anyone tell me how to unlock these 2 photos. I have tried multiple routes but I was unsuccessful. Plz guide me on how to unlock these and also do Ian have to forget Gillian to unlock these?? And does Alison need to have blonde hair or brown hair??
dolfe67
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A dating sim (with or without porn) with a female protagonist and wholesome male romances is a very niche market. Most of the audience of these games is male and is not interested in that kind of content (playing a woman romancing handsome men). They want kinks and "corruption" with lots of sex if they're playing a female. Lesbian content interests some of them though, as romancing wholesome women is still pleasant even though the protagonist doesn't have a dick (and futa genre exists).
So that's why Lena's male LI are not handsome men outside Ian who is also a protagonist. And Ian's part is more conventional male MC's story with character improvement and wholesome female LI.
Yes that's double standard but it is what it is, men and women are different and have different interests.
So that's why Lena's male LI are not handsome men outside Ian who is also a protagonist. And Ian's part is more conventional male MC's story with character improvement and wholesome female LI.
Yes that's double standard but it is what it is, men and women are different and have different interests.
I don't know about the Alison route (I don't like her) but as a Cherry fan I can help with that one, the scene you are looking for is called "Cherry facetimes Ian". It is from a video call between Ian and Cherry at Perry's parents' summer house and shows Cherry in a bathroom covered in a white towel. I think you just need to be on her relationship path and it should come automatically. In the scene she goes on to shower nude for Ian which is really hot NGL.
Yes, Alison needs to be on her Bimbo route to get her to send you that photo.
Xupuzulla
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I have a question that keeps me up at night.....................if you make Lena fuck Stan are you ruining his chances with Holly?
I hope not,the nerds make a cute couple
I hope not,the nerds make a cute couple
I’d imagine that’s why most of these “choose your own adventure” VNs tend to see longer and longer gaps between updates, and so many just get outright abandoned; as more and more characters come on, each with their own stories and branching paths, it just becomes too much of a tangled mess for one person to keep track of.
If you look at big-budget games with choices like Mass Effect, each character has their own dedicated writer.
Very true. In fact, in the scene that I was referencing, when Lena meets up with Robert around the corner after her first kiss with Ian, she has the option to either go straight to her apt for sex or to walk with Robert and have an actual conversation. It seemed like she was trying to have a real relationship with him instead of just using him as her fuck toy. Even if you choose that option she still ends up using him as her fuck toy.
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Some sex scenes add to the narrative, some don't. There's also a lot of times where ORS feels like a romance story that just allows the scene to continue without a fade to black, and in those moments, yeah it all aligns and it is great. But it's not an even spread across the board for all characters and all relationships.
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Is it possible for Lena and Ian to be in an actual relationship and have Lena still cheat on him with other men? The option grays out for me when they make it official in the park and they just become casual hookups when I have Lena interested in Jeremy. Is there no way for her to cheat with Jeremy while being Ian's girlfriend?
Jeremy is sort of exception to the overall rule. If Lena gets sexual with him, she won't be interested in relationship with Ian.
You'll need to hold your horses until later in the game, if you can only be satisfied with illicit BBC use.
She can cheat with Axel at the photo shoot (when Ivy fails to show up and also when she misses her train to Perry's beachhouse) and then when she's working at Blazers she can cheat with Marcel, Axel, and/or Jack. Then also with Seymour in Italy as well. Jeremy won't work since if she woke him up in Louise's bed, then she won't get involved seriously with Ian.