Solomon Grundy

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The only issue I have is the pic implies that NTR only happens if there's a couple involved. Reality is, NTR can happen even at crush level—as in, seeing your LI "stolen" even if you're not in a relationship with them.

There's a reason why Otomedori is NTR despite the Cucked and the Fucked aren't even dating yet, just blushing at each other's presence.
Here we go...
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Saerwen

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Gggb had female protagonist, this one male and female, so the next one might have a male mc. What do you think? I also wonder what plot and kinks will the game have...
 

JohnnyKiss

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If it does I won't play it, pretty simple.
If EvaKiss has a million fans, then I am one of them.

If EvaKiss has ten fans, then I am one of them.

If EvaKiss has only one fan then that is me.

If EvaKiss has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth.

If the world is against EvaKiss for making a game with a Male protagonist, then I am against the world.
 

BloodyMares

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Most of the porn games here have male MCs,why would you want more?
I'd say it's all about the type of the male MC. Almost all games with male MCs simply pretend that you are the MC (thus not giving them any type of interesting personality or character arc aside from romancing girls). And if the MC is named, then it's almost always a college boy with a huge dick. I haven't encountered many games where the male MC is shown to be as important as his waifus where he gets his personal goals that have nothing to do with girls or shows emotional vulnerability, faces various challenges beyond fighting off competitors or creeps, etc. Basically a game where a man is treated like a person, not just a plot device for sex or a power fantasy. Is there any game that explores corruption of a guy for example? I only know of those where you're allowed to play like a dick / creep from the start, instead of having a somewhat believable journey.
 

Samsul Hidayat

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I'd say it's all about the type of the male MC. Almost all games with male MCs simply pretend that you are the MC (thus not giving them any type of interesting personality or character arc aside from romancing girls). And if the MC is named, then it's almost always a college boy with a huge dick. I haven't encountered many games where the male MC is shown to be as important as his waifus where he gets his personal goals that have nothing to do with girls or shows emotional vulnerability, faces various challenges beyond fighting off competitors or creeps, etc. Basically a game where a man is treated like a person, not just a plot device for sex or a power fantasy. Is there any game that explores corruption of a guy for example? I only know of those where you're allowed to play like a dick / creep from the start, instead of having a somewhat believable journey.
If you want a in-depth exploration of a male protagonist's psyche, I highly recommend you Nothing Is Forever.
 

thedude

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I'd say it's all about the type of the male MC. Almost all games with male MCs simply pretend that you are the MC (thus not giving them any type of interesting personality or character arc aside from romancing girls). And if the MC is named, then it's almost always a college boy with a huge dick. I haven't encountered many games where the male MC is shown to be as important as his waifus where he gets his personal goals that have nothing to do with girls or shows emotional vulnerability, faces various challenges beyond fighting off competitors or creeps, etc. Basically a game where a man is treated like a person, not just a plot device for sex or a power fantasy. Is there any game that explores corruption of a guy for example? I only know of those where you're allowed to play like a dick / creep from the start, instead of having a somewhat believable journey.
I'd point you to this thread. Most games there have well-written MCs.
 

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I'd point you to this thread. Most games there have well-written MCs.
Not really. A lot of the games on the list have unbelievable stories which are a result of world development were the universe revolves around the MC of the game. Most of them are over dramatic stories as well which are a result of the Dev believing grandiose developments and sudden Drama will turn their VN into HBO quality. It will not.

A lot of posters automatically assume a game with great renders and absence of grammatical errors means a great story. Feelings like Jealousy, insecurity, competitiveness are absent from 99% of the VNs listed in that thread, in order to give the player a (((safe space))) and not feel challanged or insecure to avoid the dreadsome NTR label.

But as a result, those game feels artificially designed, with characters existing to stroke the players ego and missing critical human emoticons everyone deals with daily.

For example of what I mean: Players here were very furious at Jeremy for fllirting with Alison and competing with Ian to score, because they are not used to that concept. MC best friend tropes in the VNs listed exist to boost player ego, as funny sidekick, to give him girls (but never want one for themselves). Basically carboard cutouts to boost the player but never having real desires of their own.

I did not like Jeremy's action, but it made the game more believable in my eyes, and more enjoyable in my opinion, when you finally get her instead of Jeremy. It feels earned.

There are very few VNs where the world does not revolve around the MC, were other characters exist and compete with the MC for affection with LI and ORS is the best in that field. Every accomplishment feels earned. Motivations feel believable and grounded.

There is no sudden outburst of drama and emotions, there is no deus ex machina to force plot points.

Because of this, Eva Kiss is one of the best writer in F95 bar non.
 
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