VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[noturiah]

Speaking of all the cameos in ORS though, do we know approximately how many years have passed since GGGB? Like a decade perhaps? Both Jess and Natalie seem more like 30-35 year olds now, but then Mike looks the exact same.

I had forgotten he was originally a GGGB character as well, thanks for that. He was pretty minor, if I remember, yes? Maybe only one or two scenes, in passing, with Ash and Eva?

I don't think we know how many years have passed, I've never seen a Q&A question put to Eva Kiss about that. I don't think it would be a decade, because I don't think Jess would have waited that long to get engaged to Ashley (or Dave). But you're right that Jess and Natalie both look older, and obviously some significant amount of time has passed, for Jess and whichever partner she has to have moved to Baluart, and for Natalie to have moved from running a small bookshop to getting a job in publishing and then becoming a manager.

It'll be interesting, as we learn more about Nat, to see whether she's still with Damian. My first thought is no, because that opens the way for a tryst with Ian. But of course we also know Nat's a closet freak who enjoys threesomes and rough anal, so maybe they're still together and Natalie will entice Ian into that situation the same way she did with Ashley. Here's hoping!

 

[Gicoo]

anyone has a full save?

Start the game with cheat mode and you have the option to unloc the gallery.

Speaking of all the cameos in ORS though, do we know approximately how many years have passed since GGGB? Like a decade perhaps? Both Jess and Natalie seem more like 30-35 year olds now, but then Mike looks the exact same.

Jessica is 25 in ORS, so I assume around 5 years, if she was like 20 in GGGB. She is as old as Ashley and Eva (and other classmates like Eric, Dave, Kevin), and slightly older than the 17-18 year old Iris. I forgot if their ages were mentioned.

 

[BlandChili]

It'll be interesting, as we learn more about Nat, to see whether she's still with Damian. My first thought is no, because that opens the way for a tryst with Ian. But of course we also know Nat's a closet freak who enjoys threesomes and rough anal, so maybe they're still together and Natalie will entice Ian into that situation the same way she did with Ashley. Here's hoping!

Personally I lean towards making the assumption that Nat is not with Damian, given that she's not known to be pea-brained and how readily she gives Ian her digits, unless Eva wants her for a cheating kink for those that won't use Cindy because Wade is Ian's friend.

But Nat can be seduced in both the Jack and Arthur instance (are those the only ones?) so I would feel it more fitting for her to be single and sexually open, more fun that way imo. Game wouldn't even have to define whether it's the Arthur or Jack outcome.

You could make a case that in the seduction endings she seems cartoonishly smitten with "specific cocks," but her prior sexually open demeanor would make me assume she'd have more in mind than Arthur or Jack specifically.

Of course her being with Damian could be used as an option for the open relationship category between Ian and Lena, Eva could be intending for Nat and Damian to be a more wholesome option to explore swinging/partner-swap with Ian and Lena and an option that's another couple and not individuals who are single.

 

[SerHawkes]

Personally I lean towards making the assumption that Nat is not with Damian, given that she's not known to be pea-brained and how readily she gives Ian her digits, unless Eva wants her for a cheating kink for those that won't use Cindy because Wade is Ian's friend.

But Nat can be seduced in both the Jack and Arthur instance (are those the only ones?) so I would feel it more fitting for her to be single and sexually open, more fun that way imo. Game wouldn't even have to define whether it's the Arthur or Jack outcome.

You could make a case that in the seduction endings she seems cartoonishly smitten with "specific cocks," but her prior sexually open demeanor would make me assume she'd have more in mind than Arthur or Jack specifically.

Of course her being with Damian could be used as an option for the open relationship category between Ian and Lena, Eva could be intending for Nat and Damian to be a more wholesome option to explore swinging/partner-swap with Ian and Lena and an option that's another couple and not individuals who are single.

Wheres the math of having Ivy included into this I wonder...

 

[yuvce]

Personally I lean towards making the assumption that Nat is not with Damian, given that she's not known to be pea-brained and how readily she gives Ian her digits, unless Eva wants her for a cheating kink for those that won't use Cindy because Wade is Ian's friend.

Isn't that what Minerva's for since she's married?

 

[Xupuzulla]

Nat needs to have a bigger role on ORS,her being down to fuck with anyone made her one of the best characters of GGGB.

 

[SerHawkes]

Nat needs to have a bigger role on ORS,her being down to fuck with anyone made her one of the best characters of GGGB.

Like Jess, unlikely to happen. Might get a teaser or maybe one scene.

Then again I would love to see Nat peg your bitch boy Stan while Lena and Louise just laugh. Would be fitting no less.

 

[AliasJ]

Hello, is there any chance of android version of ORS with cheat-mod? I had saves from previous walkthrough, but they aren't compatible with current version. Thanks!

 

[noturiah]

Personally I lean towards making the assumption that Nat is not with Damian, given that she's not known to be pea-brained and how readily she gives Ian her digits, unless Eva wants her for a cheating kink for those that won't use Cindy because Wade is Ian's friend.

But Nat can be seduced in both the Jack and Arthur instance (are those the only ones?) so I would feel it more fitting for her to be single and sexually open, more fun that way imo. Game wouldn't even have to define whether it's the Arthur or Jack outcome.

You could make a case that in the seduction endings she seems cartoonishly smitten with "specific cocks," but her prior sexually open demeanor would make me assume she'd have more in mind than Arthur or Jack specifically.

Of course her being with Damian could be used as an option for the open relationship category between Ian and Lena, Eva could be intending for Nat and Damian to be a more wholesome option to explore swinging/partner-swap with Ian and Lena and an option that's another couple and not individuals who are single.

What you're saying mostly makes sense to me, though I'll point out that even in the playthroughs when Nat can be seduced by Jack and/or Arthur, I think she is still with Damian. And in other playthroughs, Ashley can bring in Nat to have a threesome with her and Jack, if she's committed to Jack, or with her and Dave, if she's committed to Dave, and Damian is still Nat's boyfriend in all of that. I think across the game, Nat is just a freak with a very supportive boyfriend! Which also would back up your point that she and Damian could be a more stable couple for Ian and Lena to partner-swap with, down the line.

But it also would make sense that, several years on from the events in GGGB, as Nat moved to Baluart and started working in publishing, she might move on from Damian too. I don't remember if he had a job or was a student, etc. I do remember that the bookshop is owned by Nat's parents and she's working there because she couldn't find another job. I think at some point she tells Ash that she wants to do more interesting work than just be in the bookstore, she just hasn't found anything yet.

I agree Nat was an intelligent and really fun GGGB character, and while I think SerHawkes may be right that she'll be used only for a one-off scene or two, I'd argue her intelligence and her kinks make her a natural fit as part of the ORS cast. For example, I could see Nat and Emma becoming besties if they got introduced to each other, cruising the clubs together looking for guys into ass play. Nat and Lena would click pretty well too, with both of them being down-to-earth personalities with hidden wild sides. And with Nat being really kind and considerate, and involved in the publishing scene, she would connect well with Holly too. Lots of possibilities!

 

[BlandChili]

Isn't that what Minerva's for since she's married?

Maybe? Minerva has other elements though, being Ian's superior, the power dynamic, and her milf-esque quality. I'll admit to not having a lot of experience with her route, I have experienced some untoward interest from a superior myself, so it's not my cup of tea. Nat is a colleague so I guess she could be tonally more openly casual? But that remains to be seen I suppose.

Wheres the math of having Ivy included into this I wonder...

Well, be careful what you write. Knowing you, Eva would probably take your speculation and make Nat seduce Ivy into thirsting for Arthur-cock.

Nat needs to have a bigger role on ORS,her being down to fuck with anyone made her one of the best characters of GGGB.

Maybe Ian can give Jeremy another heads-up lol. Share the love, soon Jeremy will have been handed down a harem by Ian with her and Emma being the starting pieces.

 

[BlandChili]

What you're saying mostly makes sense to me, though I'll point out that even in the playthroughs when Nat can be seduced by Jack and/or Arthur, I think she is still with Damian. And in other playthroughs, Ashley can bring in Nat to have a threesome with her and Jack, if she's committed to Jack, or with her and Dave, if she's committed to Dave, and Damian is still Nat's boyfriend in all of that. I think across the game, Nat is just a freak with a very supportive boyfriend! Which also would back up your point that she and Damian could be a more stable couple for Ian and Lena to partner-swap with, down the line.

Fair point. It's just the ending, what with Damian not knowing where Nat was at while she's off enjoying cock, gave me the impression that Nat was abandoning the whole "honestly open" schtick which would probably end in a split, unless Damian just gave in to her urges.

I agree Nat was an intelligent and really fun GGGB character, and while I think SerHawkes may be right that she'll be used only for a one-off scene or two, I'd argue her intelligence and her kinks make her a natural fit as part of the ORS cast. For example, I could see Nat and Emma becoming besties if they got introduced to each other, cruising the clubs together looking for guys into ass play. Nat and Lena would click pretty well too, with both of them being down-to-earth personalities with hidden wild sides. And with Nat being really kind and considerate, and involved in the publishing scene, she would connect well with Holly too. Lots of possibilities!

Nat the "Swiss-army Kink," ready to fuck anything and everything.

 

[noturiah]

Wheres the math of having Ivy included into this I wonder...

I was pondering how Nat would fit in with the rest of the ORS cast in another post, and this is total speculation, but I actually think Nat and Ivy would really get along! They're both women who take no bullshit. They both have a commitment to casual, fun sex. They both can be quite kind if they want to be: Nat can sort of take Ash under her wing, depending on how Ash is played - and Ivy has that thing where she's actually very nice to Perry and is friendly to him when you'd think he'd be one of the last guys she'd be friendly to. Ivy does seem to be a lot more high maintenance than Nat, but the cool thing about Nat is I think she would just roll with it. So I think they'd strike up a friendship, then they'd end up in bed together, and all would be good.

 

[noturiah]

Fair point. It's just the ending, what with Damian not knowing where Nat was at while she's off enjoying cock, gave me the impression that Nat was abandoning the whole "honestly open" schtick which would probably end in a split, unless Damian just gave in to her urges.

Oh right, I'd forgotten that part, that Damian doesn't know she's getting it on the regular from Arthur in that ending. That could be a thing causing a break up, you're totally right. Could be Damian found out and it was one step too far, or could be that Nat just realized she didn't need an open relationship when she could just have a regular booty call or three.

Nat the "Swiss-army Kink," ready to fuck anything and everything.

Ha! That's a great way of putting it. Nat and Emma really would be besties, both so laid back and down for whatever.

 

[BlandChili]

Oh right, I'd forgotten that part, that Damian doesn't know she's getting it on the regular from Arthur in that ending. That could be a thing causing a break up, you're totally right. Could be Damian found out and it was one step too far, or could be that Nat just realized she didn't need an open relationship when she could just have a regular booty call or three.

You get the same with her and Jack, which is what makes me lean towards her being single by default. If 2/3 of her endings has her fall into infidelity perhaps having Nat be single is just the easiest way to have her in ORS without declaring a canonical ending? She could just tire of Damian on the "stay with Damian" ending and have ended it normally. I don't remember if Nat has any other endings besides the "stay with Damian" one and the two cock-slut ones.

 

[Leo Von Frich]

Game seems to demonstrate many ending options for Ian and Lena... making you want to play and see all endings, I even imagine some for Lena as an example:

Lena: She becomes submissive to Seymour, grows in her career and becomes his successor, inheriting all of his fortune and becoming Lady Saymour. The ending could vary with Ain being her lover or her personal toy, just like Seymour did with her. (Bad Ending?)

Lena: Play Seymour's game, gain his trust, with the help of your friend Stan master of computers and Ian discover his secrets and how to overthrow him from his throne. How I wish that ending. (Revenge Final)

Lena: Follow Ivy's advice and with her videos on the internet she is successful and can even become an actress in adult films or a Model with the help of Ivy and Billy or just continue making videos with Ian + Ivy (Lust End)

Lena: She can't hide her love for Holly, but also for Iam... they both agree to be together and follow their dreams. Iam grows in his writing career and becomes a famous literary critic, Holly is a famous writer of romance books, Lena is a famous music composer, together they achieve so much influence in the community managing to expel Seymour and corruption from the city. (True End?)

Lena: Despite all the difficulties Lena is growing successfully in her musical career, Lena invites Ain to form a band with her school friends, she discovers that they were also musicians in the past, forming a band with Ain, Wade, Parry and Emma, even having Cindy as her musical agent, the ending could also be possible for Ian, but he would have a long game to convince his friends to get back together. (End of Friends)

 

[Xupuzulla]

Game seems to demonstrate many ending options for Ian and Lena... making you want to play and see all endings, I even imagine some for Lena as an example:

Lena: She becomes submissive to Seymour, grows in her career and becomes his successor, inheriting all of his fortune and becoming Lady Saymour. The ending could vary with Ain being her lover or her personal toy, just like Seymour did with her. (Bad Ending?)

Lena: Play Seymour's game, gain his trust, with the help of your friend Stan master of computers and Ian discover his secrets and how to overthrow him from his throne. How I wish that ending. (Revenge Final)

Lena: Follow Ivy's advice and with her videos on the internet she is successful and can even become an actress in adult films or a Model with the help of Ivy and Billy or just continue making videos with Ian + Ivy (Lust End)

Lena: She can't hide her love for Holly, but also for Iam... they both agree to be together and follow their dreams. Iam grows in his writing career and becomes a famous literary critic, Holly is a famous writer of romance books, Lena is a famous music composer, together they achieve so much influence in the community managing to expel Seymour and corruption from the city. (True End?)

Lena: Despite all the difficulties Lena is growing successfully in her musical career, Lena invites Ain to form a band with her school friends, she discovers that they were also musicians in the past, forming a band with Ain, Wade, Parry and Emma, even having Cindy as her musical agent, the ending could also be possible for Ian, but he would have a long game to convince his friends to get back together. (End of Friends)

The canon ending is Lena and Stan married and happy forever through.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

The canon ending is Lena and Stan married and happy forever through.

 

[dolfe67]

Lena: She becomes submissive to Seymour, grows in her career and becomes his successor, inheriting all of his fortune and becoming Lady Saymour. The ending could vary with Ain being her lover or her personal toy, just like Seymour did with her. (Bad Ending?)

No, it's a good ending. Best ending if she makes a male heir to Seymour (and a lot of sisters for him)

 

[Gicoo]

I wonder if the contest last year was partly responsible for the bizarre Stan hype.

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[Geralt From Rivia]

I wonder if the contest last year was partly responsible for the bizarre Stan hype.

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He made not bad Lena 3D model, probably in Blender.