VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[Gicoo]

Assuming Gillian/Mike is true: I wonder if she will always break up with Mike and go for Ian again. Apparantly this is only possible if Lena goes for Mike, but Ivy also stated that she was interested in Mike. Now, this could've been a casual filler comment without any meaning but to react to Lena's partners (when Ivy said that, she was also commenting on Lena's other partners). But if it wasn't casual, Ivy could seduce Mike and Gillian would always be dumped.
Otherwise, Gillian entering Ians life again is irrelevant since she is almost always content with Mike.

 

[| Vee |]

...but Ivy also stated that she was interested in Mike. Now, this could've been a casual filler comment without any meaning but to react to Lena's partners (when Ivy said that, she was also commenting on Lena's other partners)...

Ivy might have strong feelings for Lena that's why she is reacting this to get close to Lena without damaging their bond which they have. I truly believe we will see an ending or something related to this in near future.

 

[Fellas]

Assuming Gillian/Mike is true: I wonder if she will always break up with Mike and go for Ian again.

That better be the case or vice versa because it messed up my head to think how Ian let a beautiful girl like that slip away from his fingers. My ORS' saves only contain the serious Alison route, committed IanxLena, Ian&Lena with a lil bit of cheating, and Cindy for shits and giggles. It went south in all of those saves ever since Gillian reappeared and I started focusing on her LOL.

 

[Leo Von Frich]

That better be the case or vice versa because it messed up my head to think how Ian let a beautiful girl like that slip away from his fingers. My ORS' saves only contain the serious Alison route, committed IanxLena, Ian&Lena with a lil bit of cheating, and Cindy for shits and giggles. It went south in all of those saves ever since Gillian reappeared and I started focusing on her LOL.

You can be sure Eva throws a bombshell on the Ian + Lena relationship with Gillian back, but I think Gillian would be final for Ian if Lena ends up being another romantic partner instead of him.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Gillian's def getting anal before this game is over

 

[robrize2169]

so just finished ch 11 on the Ian/Lena path where they have a threesome with Louise, so i am thinking i should not have had Ian end his fling with Allison or Minerva since that might mean no possibility of a threesome with either of them in the future. i don't see why Allision wouldn't be open to it since she seems to be open to one with Jeremy, which i did not see on my playthrough since i broke it off with Allison after Ian and Lena had..the talk. and Minerva too. might have to start a new playthrough when the next update comes out..

 

[SerHawkes]

I found it odd how nonchalant Ian was about finding out Lena is cheating on him with Louise

It' not cheating since neither commit to each other up until the talk, and even then he's fine with it because it's a female and not a guy. Simply put, have casual sex with females are fine and dandy, specially with friends.

 

[Gicoo]

Also, this Ian is interested in threesomes, so open-minded. Would he bother to chastize Lena about fucking a girl he is about to fuck with her?

 

[SerHawkes]

Also, this Ian is interested in threesomes, so open-minded. Would he bother to chastize Lena about fucking a girl he is about to fuck with her?

Bro did a risk assessment and decided to be happy rather than be right.

 

[fatpussy123]

I found it odd how nonchalant Ian was about finding out Lena is cheating on him with Louise

Ian says he doesn't know how to feel about it after he finds out Lena had been sleeping with Louise while in an official relationship with Ian. To me this implies we will be allowed to decide for Ian. But maybe not considering the game code doesn't flag Lena as cheating when it's with a girl (Louise or Ivy).

 

[SerHawkes]

Ian says he doesn't know how to feel about it after he finds out Lena had been sleeping with Louise while in an official relationship with Ian. To me this implies we will be allowed to decide for Ian. But maybe not considering the game code doesn't flag Lena as cheating when it's with a girl (Louise or Ivy).

I would say it's more so casual relations than cheating in the context. There's no actual love when it comes to Lena hooking up with Louise or Ivy, it's more a fuck buddy relationship in that case. That said, if what Lena had actual feelings for Louise and/or Ivy, then I would consider it cheating.

 

[fatpussy123]

I would say it's more so casual relations than cheating in the context. There's no actual love when it comes to Lena hooking up with Louise or Ivy, it's more a fuck buddy relationship in that case. That said, if what Lena had actual feelings for Louise and/or Ivy, then I would consider it cheating.

There's no love involved if Lena gives a bj to Mark at the club, but the game still flags the cheating flag.

 

[SerHawkes]

There's no love involved if Lena gives a bj to Mark at the club, but the game still flags the cheating flag.

Thats because Mark is in a relationship. Remember?

 

[kolram]

I found it odd how nonchalant Ian was about finding out Lena is cheating on him with Louise

It’s kind of hard to get upset when your brand new bottom bitch brings her fucktoy along for you to play with.

 

[fatpussy123]

Thats because Mark is in a relationship. Remember?

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Mark is the Asian dude at the club, I think you're talking about Mike. Or maybe I'm forgetting something.

Even so, my point is that Lena having sex with Louise is cheating. Your counter was that Lena isn't romantically attracted to Louise. So another example of Lena having a sexual encounter with someone she does not have romantic feelings for is with Mark in chapter 10.

So either her blowing him in the club bathroom while dating Ian is not cheating to you or the romantic feelings thing was irrelevant.

 

[SerHawkes]

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Mark is the Asian dude at the club, I think you're talking about Mike. Or maybe I'm forgetting something.

Even so, my point is that Lena having sex with Louise is cheating. Your counter was that Lena isn't romantically attracted to Louise. So another example of Lena having a sexual encounter with someone she does not have romantic feelings for is with Mark in chapter 10.

So either her blowing him in the club bathroom while dating Ian is not cheating to you or the romantic feelings thing was irrelevant.

Well the main difference is simple: Sleeping with a girl and sleeping with a guy. Ian apparent view at the moment is, given how up front Lena is with him in admitting she is 'experimenting', that the "experimenting" is with another woman. In his eyes, he's not seeing that as a major deal, likely because 1. Lena is being up front about it, 2. Girl on Girl action is pretty hot, and 3. It's not like she is actively sleeping around in that instance.

That said, if she were to suck on Mark or Mike or Axel or Jeremy or hell forbid Robert, then yes, thats cheating, as she is seeing another man without Ian's knowledge or preverbal consent on the matter.

 

[Birdnman993]

In Good Girl Gone Bad Ashley had drug addiction problems, which greatly influenced her mood, then if she wanted you could deal with it and rehabilitate yourself with the help of her partner, in my case with Eva caring and supporting her to cure herself of her addiction , that was a beautiful moment that I will never forget.

So I wonder if Lena went through something similar with her drug use? If so, I hope it is Holly who supports Lena in this situation either as a friend or partner (preferably a partner) but only if you protected Holly from Ivy's influence to give more consequence to your choices.

 

[kolram]

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Mark is the Asian dude at the club, I think you're talking about Mike. Or maybe I'm forgetting something.

Even so, my point is that Lena having sex with Louise is cheating. Your counter was that Lena isn't romantically attracted to Louise. So another example of Lena having a sexual encounter with someone she does not have romantic feelings for is with Mark in chapter 10.

So either her blowing him in the club bathroom while dating Ian is not cheating to you or the romantic feelings thing was irrelevant.

The difference with Louise is that Ian is involved. Ian has stated that one of his fantasies is an FFM threesome and Ian and Lena have agreed to experiment together. Lena is essentially acting according to this agreement.

If this is the first time Lena has been with Louise since getting together with Ian then (IMO) it should not count as cheating.

 

[fatpussy123]

Well the main difference is simple: Sleeping with a girl and sleeping with a guy. Ian apparent view at the moment is, given how up front Lena is with him in admitting she is 'experimenting', that the "experimenting" is with another woman. In his eyes, he's not seeing that as a major deal, likely because 1. Lena is being up front about it, 2. Girl on Girl action is pretty hot, and 3. It's not like she is actively sleeping around in that instance.

That said, if she were to suck on Mark or Mike or Axel or Jeremy or hell forbid Robert, then yes, thats cheating, as she is seeing another man without Ian's knowledge or preverbal consent on the matter.

I agree. I am not Ian or Lena, neither is anyone else playing. So the characters have their own pre-established values and interest, (those that I suspect mirror the author's). For example we can't choose for Ian to have a threesome kink, he has one in every playthrough. We also can't give him a hardline stance against Lena sleeping with women prior to the threesome. He says he does not know how to feel about it and says he wants to be included in the future. Again I think later when we get to play as him I think there will be an opportunity for us to decide how Ian reacts, whether he says to always be included, allows Lena to sleep with Louise on her own time, or if he forbids it entirely.

All of that being said I still think Lena cheated on him given the facts of the situation. If they agreed to experiment. They explicitly state to experiment TOGETHER. And in a few scenes leading up to the threesome Lena and Louise have sex without Ian. If after they got together and they immediately invited Louise for a threesome that'd be different.

About it being different if it's the same gender. Cheating is subjective and is defined by whatever boundaries established in a relationship. Ian and Lena never agreed to be open, so the implied relationship is that of a closed one. Lena lucked out because Ian didn't immediately consider what Lena did to be cheating, certainly not how he'd have reacted had it been a guy, but Lena had no reason to know Ian would react the way he did and in her internal monologue she repeatedly thinks that it could be considered cheating.

In other words by definition and the their relationship boundaries Lena cheated, but Ian might not care because threesome.

 

[fatpussy123]

The difference with Louise is that Ian is involved. Ian has stated that one of his fantasies is an FFM threesome and Ian and Lena have agreed to experiment together. Lena is essentially acting according to this agreement.

If this is the first time Lena has been with Louise since getting together with Ian then (IMO) it should not count as cheating.

I'm not talking about the threesome, I'm talking about the times she slept with Louise prior to the threesome while in an official relationship with Ian.

The experimenting thing is irrelevant. She can pull the same shit if they don't agree to experiment and even in the experiment arrangement they never agree that Lena can fuck around outside of the relationship.