VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[BigAlzBub]

I'd argue power can be an end by itself. A character could simply pursue it for ego or the ability to bend others to their will without being able to say no.

IMO this trope of moral grey area for antagonists is overdone lately. Some stories are made worse for the sake of the villain having a sympathetic backstory. I think it's fine to just let your bad guys be bad guys sometimes.

With a character like Seymour though, I can see some people expecting a machiavellian 5D chess reason for being the way he is... so fair enough. He certainly talks a big game. Personally I don't mind him pursuing power for the sake of power.

These are not examples of power for it's own sake, in your first example it is because it grants them the warm and fuzzy feeling of people fawning over you, and in the later it is having people kowtow to you. You probably can't drill down into their motivations any further, as at some point the answer just becomes, because it makes (figuratively speaking) areas of brain light up, and the wiring of the brain is just something which is super mysterious to us right now.

It also doesn't have to lead to morally grey antagonists. Just because group X shat on the antagonist from a great height when they were growing up, doesn't justify whatever terrible things that the antagonist does to them when the roles are reversed. You can understand someone's motivations and still think they are a massive piece of shit.

I do agree that Seymour is looking less and less likely to be the master chess player, but who knows?

 

[Nifferman]

These are not examples of power for it's own sake, in your first example it is because it grants them the warm and fuzzy feeling of people fawning over you, and in the later it is having people kowtow to you. You probably can't drill down into their motivations any further, as at some point the answer just becomes, because it make (figuratively speaking) areas of brain light up, and the wiring of the brain is just something which is super mysterious to us right now.

It also doesn't have to lead to morally grey antagonists. Just because group X shat on the antagonist from a great height when they were growing up, doesn't justify whatever terrible things that the antagonist does to them when the roles are reversed. You can understand someone's motivations and still think they are a massive piece of shit.

I do agree that Seymour is looking less and less likely to be the master chess player, but who knows?

True, I'm more excited about Author than for Seymour now after the new update.

 

[Starscream76]

As said, it is a question of choice to make. Lena feels attracted to Seymour after seeing what Eva has planned but I think there will be several arcs with the different characters like in GGGB

 

[Takkatakka]

I do agree that Seymour is looking less and less likely to be the master chess player, but who knows?

He probably can be both depending on how far the game goes. There could be one path in which, especially if Lena rejects him (haven't tried that one yet) he basically ruins her life and the life of everybody she is close to like Ian, Emma and so on.

Or there might be a path on which he actually falls fully for Lena and she can start manipulating him for her own ends.

There is a lot of possibilities and ORS is one of the few games I would expect to fulfill at least some of them.

 

[SlowGoesSlow]

Yapmour’s old, I wouldn’t be surprised if he just wanted to smash prime pussy before he bites it. All he does is rant and hyper fixate on a person. Lena was probably the easiest 20 something that would listen to him drone on so he went with her. His heart might give out if he tries to get too kinky with Lena and we’d have another Gerald’s Game on our hands.

 

[GokutheG]

He probably can be both depending on how far the game goes. There could be one path in which, especially if Lena rejects him (haven't tried that one yet) he basically ruins her life and the life of everybody she is close to like Ian, Emma and so on.

Or there might be a path on which he actually falls fully for Lena and she can start manipulating him for her own ends.

There is a lot of possibilities and ORS is one of the few games I would expect to fulfill at least some of them.

It'd be incredibly boring if rejecting Seymour automatically means Lena reaches a bad end.

 

[Takkatakka]

It'd be incredibly boring if rejecting Seymour automatically means Lena reaches a bad end.

I mean...I didn't say he would succeed necessarily. But it could then be the main theme of the game (if you on that path at least), to pull her life back together and beat back against him somehow. We had a "somewhat" similar dynamic with the gang in GGGB, where the outcome could be VERY different depending on the player choices.

 

[Saerwen]

True, I too read about it in her interview 2 yrs ago. She was if this crap sells mine would too.

Not only Eva was right but GGGB is more popular.

 

[Nifferman]

Eva was right and GGGB is more popular.

Def!! More choices, more kink, custom arts and was really consistent up until chapter 9.

 

[Takkatakka]

Not only Eva was right but GGGB is more popular.

And better...

 

[robs1234]

True, I too read about it in her interview 2 yrs ago. She was if this crap sells mine would too.

kc ?

 

[Nifferman]

kc ?

Katies corruption. It's an old game, and it's alright, ig

 

[Duty black]

True, I'm more excited about Author than for Seymour now after the new update.

Absolutely Author is the best character in GGGB and now he appeared in ORS OMG but the update is very small

 

[MrBubu]

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[Chemish]

Walkthrough Update

I've updated my walkthrough

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Thanks! Your guide is appreciated.

 

[Saerwen]

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*tits just hanging out of leather straps*
"Super classy"

Lena's wearing whatever that is during a supposedly romantic vanilla sex scene with Seymour... I'm guessing that during the hardcore BDSM sex scene she will wear a "kinky" babydoll.

 

[BlandChili]

Lena's wearing whatever that is during supposedly romantic vanilla sex scene with Seymour... I'm guessing that during hardcore BDSM sex scene she will wear a "kinky" babydoll.

Hardcore BDSM? Seymour will die of a heart attack the first time he tries to pick up the whip

 

[Andrea9999]

The problem is that some of us expected something more..."exciting" for the first time they have sex,instead we got a very vanilla scene where all of the sudden Seymour is a weak simp.
The payout was bad for the build up EK did for years.
People are defending her saying "MAYBE IS ALL TO LURE EMMA!" but thats a trash ass plot line and not what people wanted

A barbecue with Emma as the new MC ((main course) does seem a bit like clutching. I wonder if an Agnes-Axel_lena arc could be instituted, but I do not really see how.

Lena's wearing whatever that is during supposedly romantic vanilla sex scene with Seymour... I'm guessing that during hardcore BDSM sex scene she will wear a "kinky" babydoll.

I do not see how there will be a hardcore BDSM scene unless Agnes-Axel choreograph it.
UNLESS: If I propagate a save in which Lena declines sex with Seymour, then potentially the LSD arc could stay viable.

 

[Saerwen]

Hardcore BDSM? Seymour will die of a heart attack the first time he tries to pick up the whip

He didn't die while using a Viagra. Now that I think about it, has he used it or not?

 

[Andrea9999]

So many people here do not like older people. I mean it is at the point of showing a peculiar contempt. Do you people have no parents or grandparents?