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So how can I achieve the 2nd option?
Have Lena cheat on Ian with someone at the night club. Confront her as Ian about it during the stay at Perry's beach house, agree to open the relationship.

IIRC there's also option for Ian to request the open relationship at this point, but i never looked into the details how that path goes.
 

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Have Lena cheat on Ian with someone at the night club. Confront her as Ian about it during the stay at Perry's beach house, agree to open the relationship.

IIRC there's also option for Ian to request the open relationship at this point, but i never looked into the details how that path goes.
There are some key differences between open_relationship=lena and open_relationship=ian. You can achieve the first one the way ffive described above. In that version Ian can punish Lena afterwards and proclaim that he still loves Lena which makes him still in love with Lena. Lena however will get lena_ian_love set to 0 which might indicate that she's not really in love with Ian but she still treats Ian as her boyfriend and recalls the night Ian punished her with delight and often.

To get open_relationship=ian, Lena still has to cheat at the club but Ian has to be cheating as well. Then in chapter 12 Lena has to choose to stop cheating and be loyal to Ian. Ian however has to choose to continue cheating. When Ian confronts Lena about cheating, Lena will act remorseful and won't ask to open the relationship. But since Ian is cheating too he can ask her to open the relationship. Lena would say that isn't what she wants but will reluctantly agree to open the relationship. Ian can then punish Lena but there is no option to proclaim you still love Lena. So Ian isn't in love with Lena on this path but Lena is very much still in love with him and is desperate to win his love back.
 

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I assume that this topic has already been covered many times, but I would still like some advice - what key decisions need to be made so that Ian and Lena can be together but in an open relationship on both sides?
 

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I assume that this topic has already been covered many times, but I would still like some advice - what key decisions need to be made so that Ian and Lena can be together but in an open relationship on both sides?
Afaik they can fuck around as much as they want but Lena can't fuck Jeremy.
 

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Lena however will get lena_ian_love set to 0 which might indicate that she's not really in love with Ian but she still treats Ian as her boyfriend and recalls the night Ian punished her with delight and often.
To be exact, this change isn't related directly to opening relationship. This happens if in Chapter 12 or 13 Lena's love variable was changed to 0.5. And this in turn, happens only if during her introspection about cheating Lena decides to either break up with Ian, or keep cheating.

If she opts to stop cheating, her love variable remains unchanged. However, Lena can still ask Ian to open the relationship if, despite her resolution, she has slipped up and fucked Axel before heading to the beach house. So, that's a way to get fully open relationship for Lena and Ian who both remain in love with each other.
 

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Just coming back to this game now since version 13. I recall a post around August mentioning that the 14 update might have content split into two updates to get it out sooner. Is that still the case? Is there more version 14 content coming or are we good until version 15?
 

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and ian cant fuck cindy if im not mistaken
Nah, he can. At the very least, he can do the initial hookup, it's a different thing if he starts relationship with Cindy (and if anything, he's blocked from romance with Cindy if he's in love with Lena)
 

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Ian's POV for this chapter is not that important. I also said in one of my previous posts that if Ian gets a snippet POV like Lena did during the beach arc is also fine. There are certain events lined up for Ian; he's meeting Gillian at the weekend, and next week is your 2nd round of MMA.
Now that you mention those events, I remember that Ian was supposed to have dinner with his parents, but it never happened. :BootyTime:
It doesn't have to be short Ian's POC at this point. All of that can be a part of full Ian's POV which would be the next chapter, either picking up right at the heels of this one, or going back a couple days to provide Ian's perspective of (some) of the same events, along with rest of his own experiences.
It would be especially interesting to see him fight with someone if Lena decided to cheat on him.
Please no. I don't care about Lena's hoemaxing spiritual journey from Ian's perspective. Instead of going back let's jump forward preferably to the part where the skull smashing starts :giggle:.
True, I'm already bored with hoemaxing with Lena. I need to get back to the more interesting stuff, like beating people up in the tournament.
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Now now, there will be MMA tournament be good boys and wait... :BootyTime:
It's next week, sadly. So the next-next update.
Damn, but we'll just have to wait and see.
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I guess when first thinking about these chapters, it made sense to have an Ian-centric chapter with all his side characters, and a Lena-centric one with hers. The problem is that Lena’s characters just aren’t that interesting because they all revolve around corruption arcs or sex scenes. Ian has his childhood friends, Holly, and Lena herself — all characters who exist outside of their sexual content. Lena, on the other hand, has coworkers who mainly serve the plot as scene setups (Billy and the photographer), Ivy who’s just portrayed as a slut, Jeremy who’s basically just a BBC stereotype, and Mike whose whole angle is the cheating taboo. They’re all built around kinks. Lena’s friends are so uninteresting that Eva ended up introducing a bunch of new characters and even giving the old guy a ton of scenes.
I think it depends on the player. For some (mommysboi), Lena's route is better than Ian's, even though most of her events are hoemaxing, aka corruption. On the other hand, Ian has his path of being a cuck loser or personal improvement to become a better version of himself, and whether they want to admit it or not, that's more interesting than anything Lena has done or will do in the future, in my opinion.
Oh no, Ian is Daddy, Axel Master and Seymour Sir but I can't find the right word for Anthony! :eek:
Boss, Captain, Commander? :KEK:
Lena calling Anthony boss during a massage... :unsure: If she worked for him, this could be a spot on!
Knee cap, lice slide, egg head, midlife bald crisis, The hairminator, etc.:KEK:
Once again I will be accepting your suggestions for a new playthrough. Mind you I currently have 24 playthroughs now with 3 more already planned. The current ones are:

IanxLena FWB, IanxLena Couple(swinging),Throuple A(IanxLena holly joined), IanxHolly(Encouraged/High change variable), Throuple B(IanxHolly Lena joined), LenaxHolly, Ian Lena free(neither in a relationship and friends),IanxAlison, IanxCindy, IanxCherry, IanxEmma, IanxLena FWB Slut(slutty versions of Ian and Lena), IanxLena Couple slut(Late Ian and Lena couple), IanxLena Couple Open(open relationship), IanxLena Cheating(Evil posh versions of Ian and Lena both cheating on each other and in bed with Seymour), IanxLena Nerd(non-chad Ian couple with good girl Lena with low posh variable), Throuple C(non-chad Ian and good girl lena with geek Holly), IanxHolly Geek (non-chad Ian with low change Holly also StanxLena), Throuple D(non_chad Ian with low change Holly and good girl Lena), LenaxHolly Geek(good girl Lena and low change Holly), LenaxMike, IanxLena Cuck(pain :HideThePain:), IanxAlison(non-chad Ian, no sharing with Jeremy, no blonde Alison), IanxEmma Nerd(non-chad Ian, Emma in dress). The 3 that are planned are IanxHolly Slut, IanxLouise and IanxJess. Since there's not much content for those paths yet I dont think each warrant a playthrough yet.

Anyways thanks for your suggestions in advance! :giggle:
I think you did everything you could, man.:KEK:
 

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Returning player and oh boy.
My favs used to be Louise and Minerva and tbh sex scenes with both are still great and all, but...
Wtf, Louise is not even love interest to Lena, she has the hottest lesbian scenes in the game and Lena just discards her for boring self insert(the only lesbian path in the game btw).
We got some hot Emma scene, but it does not look like a romance, but maybe in the future and there is a nice girl this update that might be discount Ivy or something(why not just give us Ivy romance for both MC's?).
I will be honest, the scenes are hot, but i want some good female romance for Lena at this point, even the dude got fucking hearts with Louise, wtf, its like author trolling me or something.
 

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Returning player and oh boy.
My favs used to be Louise and Minerva and tbh sex scenes with both are still great and all, but...
Wtf, Louise is not even love interest to Lena, she has the hottest lesbian scenes in the game and Lena just discards her for boring self insert(the only lesbian path in the game btw).
We got some hot Emma scene, but it does not look like a romance, but maybe in the future and there is a nice girl this update that might be discount Ivy or something(why not just give us Ivy romance for both MC's?).
I will be honest, the scenes are hot, but i want some good female romance for Lena at this point, even the dude got fucking hearts with Louise, wtf, its like author trolling me or something.
BlandChili I'll let you have this one. It seems to be more up your alley :whistle:
 
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Afaik they can fuck around as much as they want but Lena can't fuck Jeremy.
and ian cant fuck cindy if im not mistaken
Lena can fuck Jeremy but the conditions to get the scene are weird and inconsistent. Ian can fuck Cindy during the relationship and after opening the relationship. It's a bit tricky though. Just don't let Lena find out about Cindy from Ivy else Ian and Lena break up in chapter 12.
 
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Just don't let Lena find out about Cindy from Ivy else Ian and Lena break up in chapter 12.
Ivy and Jeremy only know if you push for the lust option after the party with Cindy. Just kiss her and stop.
 
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Returning player and oh boy.
My favs used to be Louise and Minerva and tbh sex scenes with both are still great and all, but...
Wtf, Louise is not even love interest to Lena, she has the hottest lesbian scenes in the game and Lena just discards her for boring self insert(the only lesbian path in the game btw).
We got some hot Emma scene, but it does not look like a romance, but maybe in the future and there is a nice girl this update that might be discount Ivy or something(why not just give us Ivy romance for both MC's?).
I will be honest, the scenes are hot, but i want some good female romance for Lena at this point, even the dude got fucking hearts with Louise, wtf, its like author trolling me or something.
BlandChili I'll let you have this one. It seems to be more up your alley :whistle:
Well, there isn't really much to say. Lena is more kinky with other women than Holly. I am hopeful that the two of them can get something more interesting now that their relationship if finally, finally, established.

As for any other options I am unsure where either Louise or Ivy will go. Ivy could go full rivalry mode or even get a romance, either seems possible. I am a little bit curious if there might be something with good Jess, given how we can influence her in regards to her fiance's. Eli is another maybe option.

Issue with both Eli and Jess is that Eva said in a response to one of the Q&A questions recently that all cameos exist only as additional content, so she won't focus on any one of them in detail unless there is time to fit it in somewhere.

That leaves Zarina and Emma for now. Zarina seems added specifically to have a kinkier lesbian or bisexual option, hard to tell if she'll be a genuine one. Emma I predict to only be casual but I guess anything is possible. Given how much time Eva spends on other dual-protag options I am unsure if we should expect equal focus between other options and the character they haven't been focused on, for example Emma being mainly an Ian LI and Ivy being mainly a Lena LI.

Any other options seem not very likely currently. Alison and Lena have yet to really interact and Lena's only ever been able to lower her agenda with Cindy, as much as I wish they would get content. Cherry and her story with Lena has only been brought up a couple of times so even if it goes anywhere in the narrative I wouldn't expect sexual content with her.
 
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Alison and Lena have yet to really interact
There may be a path for this, with Ian who has only recently started to fuck Alison and keeps doing this taking advantage of newly acquired open relationship status while he's with Lena. But it's admittedly very situational and probably not something many players will arrive at.
 

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There may be a path for this, with Ian who has only recently started to fuck Alison and keeps doing this taking advantage of newly acquired open relationship status while he's with Lena. But it's admittedly very situational and probably not something many players will arrive at.
And not something you'd get if you play intending only to get f/f encounters. :cry:
 
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Cherry would be funny tho even if unlikely, imagine Axel reaction if they fall in love, that would be hilarious.
But that kinda my point, Louise got ditched but instead she got a heart for Ian out of nowhere, i don't really mind it let it be clear, i think Louise scenes are hot so him having more options is good, but that basically taking a love interest from Lena so i hope Eva will add someone else for lesbian path, just having Holly and that it is kinda bummer.
I like that there is at least Jeremy relationship now.
It's just sucks that Lena being a dom in a lesbian relationship seems to be just abandoned, its a great contrast to her being Axel sub in the past and her having that power trip was kinda cool and hot.
 

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Cherry would be funny tho even if unlikely, imagine Axel reaction if they fall in love, that would be hilarious.
I'd be happy with just passionately making up with each other even. ;)
Showing it in Axel's face would be fun. Since Eva hasn't really developed this storyline in a while I don't really expect anything like that though.
But that kinda my point, Louise got ditched but instead she got a heart for Ian out of nowhere, i don't really mind it let it be clear, i think Louise scenes are hot so him having more options is good, but that basically taking a love interest from Lena so i hope Eva will add someone else for lesbian path, just having Holly and that it is kinda bummer.
And Ian really is spoiling for options when it comes to female companionship. Maybe Ivy will turn into that for Lena, who knows, but I too would have liked an additional female romantic option for Lena that was clearly a route since the early game. It's been basically Holly or broke for les romance.
It's just sucks that Lena being a dom in a lesbian relationship seems to be just abandoned, its a great contrast to her being Axel sub in the past and her having that power trip was kinda cool and hot.
There are some indications that Lena/Holly could lead in such a direction. At least in their sexual scenes Lena have generally been leading though Holly has also been shown as growing bolder, so who knows where Eva takes it. It would also be a contrast to Lena/Ivy and even Ivy/Holly where Ivy is more clearly the leading partner to both.
 
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I personally prefer characters like Jessica/Louise instead of Eve(GGGB)/Holly, someone you can fix instead of the other way around i guess.
Holly is just boring to me, don't get me wrong i like her scenes and all that, but her exploring her wilder side is just not that appealing when i can already do that playing as Lena(and its way more advanced).
Louise on the other hand is messy af, same with Ivy.
Imagine if Eva added some jaded milf you can seduce, that would be kinda new, they gave us another older guy for her(yay for people that enjoy that i guess), but how about sugar mommy instead?
 
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