VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch.14.1.4 Beta] [Eva Kiss]

[BlandChili]

I personally prefer characters like Jessica/Louise instead of Eve(GGGB)/Holly, someone you can fix instead of the other way around i guess.

I kinda like either, though it depends a bit on the content available for any given story. Since making Holly slutty removes her as an option for Lena, I see little reason to explore that content for the moment. I am hopeful that Lena/Holly can spice things up though if Lena has encouraged Holly towards change without fucking literally everything.

Holly is just boring to me, don't get me wrong i like her scenes and all that, but her exploring her wilder side is just not that appealing when i can already do that playing as Lena(and its way more advanced).
Louise on the other hand is messy af, same with Ivy.

I think there are fun elements to both, I just would have liked Lena to have more open options to diplay her bisexuality openly. Until Emma, all her lesbian options are her close friends and even Emma is a pretty good friend by the point they can have sex. She doesn't really flirt with and pursue women the same way she can with men.

 

[Lemix]

I have some hope for Emma, there was build up for many versions so i doubt she will only have 1 scene, what would be the point giving her so many opportunities to build points with her otherwise.
But its kinda true that most of the stuff is behind the doors so to speak.
I think the "no flirting or pursuing women openly" is probably author bias, maybe not on purpose, but you can clearly see how horny some of the path in the game while others are bit more tame(like author is down bad for that DJ dude forgot his name).
Like you can fuck Emma even if she or Lena date Ian no?
So the game just does not even consider it as cheating, its like "lesbians hot lol, new opportunity for threesome".
The only exception for now is Holly, if you commit, even then we have trouple path for them.
I also find it kinda interesting that Lena never initiates anything with Ivy and she always just jumps you in every scene, so maybe she actually likes her in romantic way, she also gets upset when you ditch her for Holly.
But Ivy kink of "corrupting others" is a bit of a turn off for a real romance path, but we will see i guess.

 

[BlandChili]

I have some hope for Emma, there was build up for many versions so i doubt she will only have 1 scene, what would be the point giving her so many opportunities to build points with her otherwise.

I think there will be more. The fun thing about Emma is that regardless of her status, whether she's single, with Ian or Perry or have been fucking Jeremy, she remains an open option potentially.

I think the "no flirting or pursuing women openly" is probably author bias, maybe not on purpose, but you can clearly see how horny some of the path in the game while others are bit more tame(like author is down bad for that DJ dude forgot his name).

Right, which is why Zarina has me encouraged that Eva is reconsidering her approach there a bit. Lena can be very openly attracted to her. Added bonus that it seems to bother Ivy quite a bit too

 

[Lemix]

I think there will be more. The fun thing about Emma is that regardless of her status, whether she's single, with Ian or Perry or have been fucking Jeremy, she remains an open option potentially.

Right, which is why Zarina has me encouraged that Eva is reconsidering her approach there a bit. Lena can be very openly attracted to her. Added bonus that it seems to bother Ivy quite a bit too

Maybe it will stir up Ivy a bit if you have good relationship with her and she step ups her game.
Like "you have me already bruh", cuckin Ivy with the new girl would be hilarious.

 

[Blurpee69]

On the topic of Lena and Cherry. Cherry is certainly at fault, she admits as much, but I wonder how much Axel influenced both Lena and Cherry during the reconciliations period. Cherry also admits to trying to talk with Lena, but that it led no where. Lena also admits that she wanted nothing to do with Cherry and didn't listen to her. Lena has that right, as she was the party hurt the most by whatever happened between the three of them. But Axel is definitely the kind of guy that would be lying through his teeth to try and save his own skin and get Lena and Cherry to focus on each other rather then on him.

I, unfortunately, don't know where Ian's relationship with Cherry is headed at the moment, but he has made several attempts to get Lena and Cherry to speak with each other. If that comes to be, I wonder if the two girls can / will actually make up to some degree with Ian as a mediator instead of Axel. I'd really like for Cherry to get back from Africa so that her storyline can continue; really hoping for the next Ian update we'll get some more of Cherry's storyline.

 

[BlandChili]

On the topic of Lena and Cherry. Cherry is certainly at fault, she admits as much, but I wonder how much Axel influenced both Lena and Cherry during the reconciliations period. Cherry also admits to trying to talk with Lena, but that it led no where. Lena also admits that she wanted nothing to do with Cherry and didn't listen to her. Lena has that right, as she was the party hurt the most by whatever happened between the three of them. But Axel is definitely the kind of guy that would be lying through his teeth to try and save his own skin and get Lena and Cherry to focus on each other rather then on him.

Ivy's reactions towards Cherry are also surprisingly hostile given her general attitude towards the whole ordeal, wanting Lena to get over it finally. Perhaps it's possible she was involved behind the scenes because she wanted Lena to be more socially isolated or something? Supposedly Lena and Cherry were friendly before.

 

[Blurpee69]

Ivy's reactions towards Cherry are also surprisingly hostile given her general attitude towards the whole ordeal, wanting Lena to get over it finally. Perhaps it's possible she was involved behind the scenes because she wanted Lena to be more socially isolated or something? Supposedly Lena and Cherry were friendly before.

Yep. The whole situation sounds like to me that Lena and Cherry were cool up until a point when a line was crossed. Cherry seems to understand she crossed the line, but it takes two to tango. Sure Lena broke up with Axel too, but Axel didn't leave it at that and tried to get back with Lena, multiple times and different ways. Whereas Cherry respected Lena's anger and decisions and left it alone after her attempt at amends.

As you said, Ivy is hostile towards Cherry, but acts very blase towards Axel. We know Ivy and Axel are, or at least were, still on friendly terms AND that most signs point to Ivy intentionally leaving Lena alone with Axel during the photoshoot. That's two of the three most manipulative people in the game possibly conspiring together to have Lena and Cherry go at it instead of rightfully going at Axel.

Again, just leads me to believe that with a proper mediator in Ian, the two girls could find some sort of reconciliation. Even if their friendship isn't as strong as before Axel. Buuut since this is a porn game reconciliation could still involve sex. Ian out chading Axel would break mommiesboi's heart.

 

[BlandChili]

Again, just leads me to believe that with a proper mediator in Ian, the two girls could find some sort of reconciliation. Even if their friendship isn't as strong as before Axel. Buuut since this is a porn game reconciliation could still involve sex. Ian out chading Axel would break mommiesboi's heart.

Right, never say never and all that. I always want more f/f pairings of course, but Ian getting the Axel dream would be a funny outcome too..

 

[GokutheG]

Ivy's reactions towards Cherry are also surprisingly hostile given her general attitude towards the whole ordeal, wanting Lena to get over it finally. Perhaps it's possible she was involved behind the scenes because she wanted Lena to be more socially isolated or something? Supposedly Lena and Cherry were friendly before.

Cherry cheated with Lena's boyfriend. Of course Ivy would be pissed at her for how much they hurt Lena. Just because Ivy isn't a romantic like Lena doesn't means she was secretly the mastermind behind the affair. Just because they could be total opposites doesn't mean she doesn't genuinely care for her best friend.

 

[Gicoo]

Unless stated, I see no direct connection between Ivy and Cherry. Ivy very likely neither knows nor cares about Cherry. She is only insulting her to support Lena whenever she complains about her.

While Ivy and Axel share one connection through Wildcats, that plotline faded away, so Ivy maybe setting up Lena for Axel is also not something that a deeper meaning.

I just don't buy mastermind Ivy trying to puppeteer Lena, she has too little to gain from it.

 

[BlandChili]

Cherry cheated with Lena's boyfriend. Of course Ivy would be pissed at her for how much they hurt Lena. Just because Ivy isn't a romantic like Lena doesn't means she was secretly the mastermind behind the affair. Just because they could be total opposites doesn't mean she doesn't genuinely care for her best friend.

No of course, we just know from all the other stuff Ivy gets up to that she doesn't genuinely care for her best friend.

Unless stated, I see no direct connection between Ivy and Cherry.
I just don't buy mastermind Ivy trying to puppeteer Lena, she has too little to gain from it.

For now I would agree. Besides Ivy's one outburst there isn't anything specifically pointing in this direction. I think it's more an interesting detail than solid proof of anything specific.

 

[Blurpee69]

Unless stated, I see no direct connection between Ivy and Cherry. Ivy very likely neither knows nor cares about Cherry. She is only insulting her to support Lena whenever she complains about her.

While Ivy and Axel share one connection through Wildcats, that plotline faded away, so Ivy maybe setting up Lena for Axel is also not something that a deeper meaning.

I just don't buy mastermind Ivy trying to puppeteer Lena, she has too little to gain from it.

In the early stages of the game I would have been more inclined to believe that Ivy was just siding with Lena as her friend and trashing Cherry in an attempt to make Lena feel better. The latter half of the game makes me rethink a lot of those statements and look at it all of Ivy's words and actions through a more critical lens.

Like Blandchili said, it's a detail that should maybe be kept in the back of our minds as far as that storyline is concerned. Not necessarily stating as a fact or with super solid evidence that Ivy is manipulating the situation, or at least not intentionally as an accessory Axel. Ivy could have influenced Lena's reaction towards Cherry, completely independently of Axel in this case.

But that's only concerning Ivy as it relates to Lena and Cherry. I will say I do firmly believe that Axel did try and manipulate the situation, to a varying degree of success, so that less blame was place on him than very likely should have been.

 

[ffive]

The whole situation sounds like to me that Lena and Cherry were cool up until a point when a line was crossed.

The way both Lena and Cherry has described it, Axel has introduced Cherry to Lena and Cheery was acting as Lena's "friend" while fucking Axel behind Lena's back. Then at some point Axel pushed to make it into a threesome. And then at some later point the cat got out of the bag.

Cherry herself is pretty explicit that what she's done to Lena was absolutely shitty, and expecting Lena to reconcile with someone who was never her actual friend is... i feel more of genitals-powered "now kiss!" wishful thinking than anything else.

 

[BlandChili]

Cherry herself is pretty explicit that what she's done to Lena was absolutely shitty, and expecting Lena to reconcile with someone who was never her actual friend is... i feel more of genitals-powered "now kiss!" wishful thinking than anything else.

No need for kissing, I just want them to fuck furiously.....

 

[Blurpee69]

The way both Lena and Cherry has described it, Axel has introduced Cherry to Lena and Cheery was acting as Lena's "friend" while fucking Axel behind Lena's back. Then at some point Axel pushed to make it into a threesome. And then at some later point the cat got out of the bag.

Cherry herself is pretty explicit that what she's done to Lena was absolutely shitty, and expecting Lena to reconcile with someone who was never her actual friend is... i feel more of genitals-powered "now kiss!" wishful thinking than anything else.

I don't exactly remember Cherry saying she was only pretending to be Lena's friend. I especially don't see a reason why Cherry would even bother attempting to apologize then if that's the case. I was under the impression that they only had met a couple of times and perhaps would have identified the other as an associate rather than a friend.

 

[ffive]

I especially don't see a reason why Cherry would even bother attempting to apologize then if that's the case.

Because, as a known quote goes, "she may be an asshole but not 100% a dick"...? She did a shitty thing, but she has either some remains of conscience that kicked in after she got cut off from Axel's dick, or just wanted to make herself feel/look better by not acting outright mustache-twirling villain about it. Or a mix of both.

 

[qweeerrrtt]

how can i get the cindy romance route, i've pick all the love option and have broke up with lena but that weasel axel still touching my girl

 

[GokutheG]

Because, as a known quote goes, "she may be an asshole but not 100% a dick"...? She did a shitty thing, but she has either some remains of conscience that kicked in after she got cut off from Axel's dick, or just wanted to make herself feel/look better by not acting outright mustache-twirling villain about it. Or a mix of both.

From what we know of Axel I wouldn't be surprised if Cherry had a crush on him that he knew about and exploited her feelings to get a 3some. He probably thought Lena was so under his thumb that he could sleep with Cherry without Lena involved. When Lena got rightfully pissed his ego couldn't handle it and things spiraled to his obsession we see from him in the beginning of the game.

From what I've seen it seems Cherry is genuine in her remorse.

 

[nevt2050ptr]

I'd really like for Cherry to get back from Africa so that her storyline can continue; really hoping for the next Ian update we'll get some more of Cherry's storyline.

Isn't she from the Caribbean islands?

 

[Gicoo]

how can i get the cindy romance route, i've pick all the love option and have broke up with lena but that weasel axel still touching my girl

Who knows how faithful your Ian is towards Cindy, considering he did Lena at the same time, but the crucial choice was probably in chapter 12. Chose the wits option to set boundaries over the love option.